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Anyone else in need of a heavy spiritual trip?

lulzkiller said:
It's fucking sad that you need to take drugs to realize what your problems in life are. How about just doing it while sober instead of taking too many mushrooms, getting scared shitless and take whatever random thought your drug-addled brains produces for good?
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Its people like this are the reason I was asking about information.being passed down to the next group or are a lot of these younger people ignorant to the capabilities of these chemicals other than just getting high. If I had a mind like that I'm not sure if I would want to reflect on myself either. So for you, stay away from these drugs cuz you don't want to realize you are as ugly on the inside as you come across to other people. I'm at a point in my life where I'm highly accomplished At what I do without room for improvent unless I take a step in one of two directions. I want to use this experience to help me choose which path I want to take. Not some uninformed user who only knows how to get high.
 
As I'm sure you know, psychedelics will never give you an answer. Only data points, just information to help you make your own decision. So lulzkiller, it's not like we just eat "too many mushrooms" and make important decisions based on some crazy shit we thought up tripping, it's more about getting an outside perspective. Birds eye view if you will.

I'm 18 now and when I was about 16, I came into the world of psychedelcics with pretty much no preconceived notions on what the experience was all about. I didn't ever think "oh jeez I'm young and confused, maybe acid will help me out". Things like that just happen.
 
That's something I've been thinking a lot about lately. What do I really benefit by tripping and "learning" so much if it only serves to make me feel more connected to the universe? I'm only pleasing myself, masturbating. But if I use insights to make real, active changes in the way I live my life one day at a time, something real can happen in my life and the lives I've connected to.
 
nearjat said:
That's something I've been thinking a lot about lately. What do I really benefit by tripping and "learning" so much if it only serves to make me feel more connected to the universe? I'm only pleasing myself, masturbating. But if I use insights to make real, active changes in the way I live my life one day at a time, something real can happen in my life and the lives I've connected to.
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This is an important question. IMO creation IS in fact a hedonistic opportunity to manifest the depths of the spirit into material existence. It is only the way we've come to be conditioned towards the belief that what feels good naturally is against our instinctual nature, yet it only makes sense that it is the opposite. Of all that is man made we must deal with, day to day, it is the 3 things we always come back to that make us human, the most ideal desires in the universe; "sex, drugs and rock n roll" or AKA love, communion, evolution, rhythm and creativity. Sex, Drugs and Rock and Roll are naturally occuring means of connecting with our higher selves, a safe route back to the origin of consciousness and what is truth. I think the focul point at this time, however, is to use discernment in the situations presented to us because often times we've seen, misuse is more common than use.
 
I'm waiting until October and then im going to drop a heroic amount of acid.

Like eating 5-7 blotters that are strong enough to make experience hippie people lose their shit on 1. I ate 2 and it felt like i had eaten a 10-12 average doses..... Some people were saying they were 500ug, and having taken enough average doses i consider to be 75-100mics, I don't think its much of an exaggeration.....

yay for LSD in doses greater than a milligram.
 
jamaica0535 said:
I'm waiting until October and then im going to drop a heroic amount of acid.

Like eating 5-7 blotters that are strong enough to make experience hippie people lose their shit on 1. I ate 2 and it felt like i had eaten a 10-12 average doses..... Some people were saying they were 500ug, and having taken enough average doses i consider to be 75-100mics, I don't think its much of an exaggeration.....

yay for LSD in doses greater than a milligram.
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Haha! Holy shit good luck bro! Haven't seen you around in a good while dude!
 
drmcnasty said:
I have used psychedelics for recreational purposes but prefer to use it for its psychological values. For the last couple months I have been ready for a change of life. For me this is the time to lock myself in my room and consume large quantities of cubensis. Would prefer LSD but don't run in those circles anymore so ill make do.
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Taking a 300mg tablet of moclobemide (trade name aurorix) 30 minutes before the mushrooms would change the mushrooms into a full blown DMT trip which will be a lot more psychedelic than mushrooms alone. It also blows LSD out of the water.
 
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Ismene said:
Taking a 300mg tablet of moclobemide (trade name aurorix) 30 minutes before the mushrooms would change the mushrooms into a full blown DMT trip which will be a lot more psychedelic than mushrooms alone. It also blows LSD out of the water.
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Sounds very interesting ill have to look into this
 
I think spiritual psychedelic experiences are pointless unless you apply what you learned everyday to improve and better yourself as a person.

Sometimes I think psychedelics can be misleading, sometimes tricking people into thinking that they are "learning" but what is the point in that if you don't make an effort to apply your new found knowledge to everyday situations that arise and improve the quality of your life and others around you.

The true spiritual trial is taking your experience, understanding it, and applying it in a positive way in your life, thus evolving as a human being.

Anybody can learn something on psychedelics but it takes true effort to use and remember the knowledge gained and use it in a positive way.
 
Special_Monster said:
I think spiritual psychedelic experiences are pointless unless you apply what you learned everyday to improve and better yourself as a person.

Sometimes I think psychedelics can be misleading, sometimes tricking people into thinking that they are "learning" but what is the point in that if you don't make an effort to apply your new found knowledge to everyday situations that arise and improve the quality of your life and others around you.

The true spiritual trial is taking your experience, understanding it, and applying it in a positive way in your life, thus evolving as a human being.

Anybody can learn something on psychedelics but it takes true effort to use and remember the knowledge gained and use it in a positive way.
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exactly ;)
 
I do. My 7 year relationship with a person whom I still love very much is over, but she is still living with me and it is literally utter chaos. I have two capsules of mescaline hydrochloride, 400mg each, ready for next weekend. A friend from work and myself are going to camp in the mountains.

I plan on praying for strength, crying and releasing all of my emotions, asking the Universe for Forgiveness for my flaws and faults, and I will pray that I am healed and move on in a healthy way from this madness.

I am scared shitless for some reason. I am never scared to trip, but for some reason I don't want to let go. Actually, I am so confused I don't know what I feel anymore. I just know my head hurts from it all and I need a vacation.
 
morninggloryseed said:
I do. My 7 year relationship with a person whom I still love very much is over, but she is still living with me and it is literally utter chaos. I have two capsules of mescaline hydrochloride, 400mg each, ready for next weekend. A friend from work and myself are going to camp in the mountains.

I plan on praying for strength, crying and releasing all of my emotions, asking the Universe for Forgiveness for my flaws and faults, and I will pray that I am healed and move on in a healthy way from this madness.

I am scared shitless for some reason. I am never scared to trip, but for some reason I don't want to let go. Actually, I am so confused I don't know what I feel anymore. I just know my head hurts from it all and I need a vacation.
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My love and best wishes goes out to you my brother ! Underground Troll and I just went through some very trying moments, so I am truly empathetic to your situation. I couldn't imagine going through what you're going through right now...I was having very strong feelings of fear about the letting go part, and yeah....holy shit can love ever trample all over your heart.

We made it through our rough patch, and a whole shitload of good even came out of it. I dealt with some long un-dealt with issues (like coming out of the closet about being bisexual to my family - which I did yesterday - and they took it well), and now I feel like I am ready for an intense spiritual trip.

We're both going to Shambhala music festival, and I think we're planning on tripping with the intent of exploring each other sexually and emotionally in a much deeper way than we ever have before, and...yeah!

Mostly though, I feel like after Shambhala, i am going to really give tripping a serious break, compared to how I have been tripping out for the last 2 years or so. I just really want to focus on building myself a life in "this" world, and I intend on doing that by starting yoga lessons, starting to play Dungeons and Dragons again, and going to play guitar at jam night at the bar on thursdays. And really making an effort to do more things together with Underground troll.

awwwww MGS, my heart goes out to you in these trying times.
 
Special_Monster said:
I think spiritual psychedelic experiences are pointless unless you apply what you learned everyday to improve and better yourself as a person.

Sometimes I think psychedelics can be misleading, sometimes tricking people into thinking that they are "learning" but what is the point in that if you don't make an effort to apply your new found knowledge to everyday situations that arise and improve the quality of your life and others around you.

The true spiritual trial is taking your experience, understanding it, and applying it in a positive way in your life, thus evolving as a human being.

Anybody can learn something on psychedelics but it takes true effort to use and remember the knowledge gained and use it in a positive way.
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I agree totally. I still think they have some merit spiritually, but it's easy to fall into traps, and before long, they are just drugs. I'm sure some people with lots of discipline, and who use psychedelics in a strict spiritual context, and within a framework of realllllly trying to better yourself, can reliably get valid spiritual experiences from their trips...

...but yeah, I recently just kind of had to rewrite myself, and re-evaluate my priorities and goals in life...And it wasn't two years of psychedelic trips that made me do all that re-evaluating, it happened after some serious relationship issues. Almost falling out of love, now there is a true catalyst for personal change and growth....and pain....but pain leads to growth very often.
 
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