News: 'Legal highs': the lowdown on a law enforcer's nightmare

[internettoughguy]

In my home town I would always see the bible bashers picking up anti depressants and benzo's at the chemist. It's all good if it comes from a doctor who is bribed by big drug companies to prescribe their products
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In my experience from talking to my strongly religious friends who dont even drink coffee, they always say to me, 'It's not that we are against psychoactive drugs, the bible says that we must respect the laws of our land. that is why i do not touch illegal drugs. maybe oneday if they become legal then I will try them'.

I see that as a realistic reason, the ones who are just like 'HUUURRR DRUGS' are fucked in the head.

 

[Sameria]

I know a couple of people who aren't even religious and just don't like them because there illegal. Mind you these people are completely cool with our drugs use. We don't pressure them into anything and they have probably realised by now that we are generally nicer people when we are on illicit drugs compared to the usual hugh dose alcohol. I've pruposely tried to completely remove myself of the company of reigious-illegal-drug-nits. Glad my family is pretty cool

Interesting point you make there PsiloSubnaut. I recall hearing from aboriginals on several occassions that when they lived in the bush before the Europeans arrived they used to ritually consume a halluconogenic at corroberees. They now say that the plant is either extict or forgotten (allbeit for a small few). They say it is no surprise that indeineous Australians seek to alter their conscience. It has been tradition for many thousands of years.

 

[djep]

Indeed!

If you believe in creationism and all the rest, it certainly doesn't take much to believe that drugs are bad.

Love the quote Psilo, one that will end up on a desk calendar in the not too distant future!

 

[PsiloSubNaut]

I recall hearing from aboriginals on several occassions that when they lived in the bush before the Europeans arrived they used to ritually consume a halluconogenic at corroberees. They now say that the plant is either extict or forgotten (allbeit for a small few). They say it is no surprise that indeineous Australians seek to alter their conscience. It has been tradition for many thousands of years.

Considering so many aboriginal tribes were wiped out before much or even any of their culture could be recorded, I'm sure they used more than one entheogen.

All cultures seek to alter consciousness. It has been done for much longer than recorded history can prove. To try and control this urge is fundamentally floored and creates more problems than prohibitionists try to solve.

In my experience from talking to my strongly religious friends who dont even drink coffee, they always say to me, 'It's not that we are against psychoactive drugs, the bible says that we must respect the laws of our land. that is why i do not touch illegal drugs. maybe one day if they become legal then I will try them'.

So they wont even drink coffee, which is legal, but if other stronger psycho-actives became legal they may indulge?

I lol'd hard on that one.

The bible also says many things that they don't follow or just interpret to suite themselves...

Love the quote Psilo, one that will end up on a desk calendar in the not too distant future!

Or one that will end up having me hunted down by religious extremists.

 

[phase_dancer]

I recall hearing from aboriginals on several occassions that when they lived in the bush before the Europeans arrived they used to ritually consume a halluconogenic at corroberees. They now say that the plant is either extict or forgotten (allbeit for a small few). They say it is no surprise that indeineous Australians seek to alter their conscience. It has been tradition for many thousands of years.

You're not thinking of Pitchuri aka Duboisia hopwoodii are you? It's still used although it's not that easily found unless you have local knowledge, or so they say. I've heard aboriginal people describe it as a powerful hallucinogen, a walkabout aid, and much stronger than marijuana. Yet the active ingredient is nicotine, but only plants from the Mulligan river area are used apparently. Something to do with the metabolite which is found in other varieties which is poisonous.

Hell even Tony Abbott thought Pitchuri was worth getting lost for

Tony Abbott lost in the outback for hours after being abandoned by traditional Aboriginal guide


.....Things went awry later that afternoon, at about five pm, when Conway left the group with a young Aboriginal man known as Junior Impu, to search of a bush narcotic known as pitchuri. Conway said he’d been gone only 20 minutes or so.....

from here

 

[AfterGlow]

The law of our land allows legal abortion. Do our strongly religious friends also respect that law and support the rights of women to choose?

In my experience from talking to my strongly religious friends who dont even drink coffee, they always say to me, 'It's not that we are against psychoactive drugs, the bible says that we must respect the laws of our land. that is why i do not touch illegal drugs. maybe oneday if they become legal then I will try them'.

 

[Boris Badenov]

Or they'd be happy to site idly by as their government 'ethnically cleansed' a segment of their population IF indeed such a policy was "a law of their land"?

(My apologies for being off topic)