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The 6-APB thread (Part 2)

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The amount of delusion in this thread is laughable.

Scoobysnacks, you are about as subtle as an earthquake. Please fuck off with your pro-scam support / and anit-offical "5" flaming. I guarantee the moment someone gets seriously ill off the shit that you are involved in distributing, you will be tracked and held to account for your part in all of this.
 
Could someone who has had an official sample try and help me out here please, Mugabe, Shambles?

Firstly what weight sample did you receive? Was it clearly labelled? Did it look like a lot of powder considering the weight? What I mean is was the powder you received light and fluffy or heavy and damp? I'm only asking for in terms of people who have received the powder.

Anyone dabbed the powder? How did it taste? Please try and be a descriptive as possible, I work with flavour and taste so this will really help.

If dabbed did it leave a numbness on the tongue? Any other distinctive characteristics worthy of note?

Anyone who received a powdered sample try snorting? What amount? What effects were felt if any?

Apart from MDMA what other drug or combination could you possibly compare it too if your life depended on it? Tough question I know but never having used MDMA I only have Mephedrone use to compare.

Apologies if all the above has been covered already, thanks for any info you can give me.
 
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OK Scooby, In the interests of this sites mission statement, Harm Reduction, let's stand back and take stock for a minute.

Firstly, and most importantly in my opinion, we have a senior mod, Shambles, who has sampled and reported back on the 1st & 2nd synthesis of 6-APB. He is a man of much experience and when once questioned that maybe he had taken a MDxx or AMT disguised sample instead of of 6-APB, he emphatically reported back that this was NOT the case. He even went so far as to post a "live" TR (though the usefulness of this still escapes me) He noted that he has 20+ years of MDxx & AMT under his belt and, according to him, the 6-APB experience was nothing like these - He even posted results on differing dosage, re-dosage, methods of introduction, effects (subjective and actual), after effects etc, ALL FACTS!

Now enter Scooby, a relative n00b and, in my opinion, the inspiration of all train wreck thread drivers. Contributions so far - conspiracies by the "official 5", 6-APB cannot be synthesised, 6-APB TR's that are in fact AMT/MDxx TR's, "unbelievable" TR's, pellets changing colour etc (I'm sure you're getting the drift, so no need to go on)

So my problem is this - WHY would I believe ANYTHING you say Scooby? Did you even get a 6-APB sample? Have you even actually sampled ANY 6-APB (if it does exist?) Have YOU posted a TR so you can make comparisons? Have you made ANY meaningful contributions aside from your crazy "theories"? NO to any of the above - THEN FAIL!

Conclusion -
You are a delusional attention seeker who needs professional help. Unless you want to be known in the annuls of 6-APB history as the nutty poor cousin of ultimateraver23, I suggest you pull your neck in and hold off any further weird suggestions until after the official launch on 1st Aug, when (holds breath at this juncture) you will no doubt be posting some further "mildly interesting" material.
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Even if Shambles assays give some compelling information, don't ever glorify the subjective effects on a senior member / one of the crew and take it as fact!

You are hanging way too much in the balance for such assumptions. Sure, many of us will appreciate a well known chemical sampling persona's comments on why they like or dislike a compound and exactly why they don't like it - I find such opinions useful enough. But shambles mouth, however pretty and eloquent, is not a spectrometer.

Obviously some people are taking these two batches and not dropping dead, Shambles may insist on the uniqueness of the experience and test results can show it's the real deal but there is no implied proof the impurities are harmless.

Again: it's up to you to think hard and long about the risks you are taking by eating those... but don't even think about proclaiming facts.
 
Could someone who has had an official sample try and help me out here please, Mugabe, Shambles?

Firstly what weight sample did you receive? Was it clearly labelled? Did it look like a lot of powder considering the weight? What I mean is was the powder you received light and fluffy or heavy and damp? I'm only asking for in terms of people who have received the powder.

Anyone dabbed the powder? How did it taste? Please try and be a descriptive as possible, I work with flavour and taste so this will really help.

If dabbed did it leave a numbness on the tongue? Any other distinctive characteristics worthy of note?

Anyone who received a powdered sample try snorting? What amount? What effects were felt if any?

Apart from MDMA what other drug or combination could you possibly compare it too if your life depended on it? Tough question I know but never having used MDMA I only have Mephedrone use to compare.

Apologies if all the above has been covered already, thanks for any info you can give me.

I daresay most of us have already decided what you have isn't 6-APB.

Take care.
 
The second sample that I received was the only one that we weighed properly, the sample weighed about 165mg but there was a lot of it stuck to the back still, and some fell onto the surface before hitting the scales.
The powder was also quite light, the taste was fowl, very bitter and chemical tasting. The tongue wasn't really numb at all after.

I heard that Link_S snorted his sample and didnt report very positive effect. I would give snorting a miss.

Couldn't really compare it to much other than MDMA, it was quite a relaxed drug though, I think I would have needed some sort of pure stimulant to use it at a club.
 
thanks for the response, in terms of taste I've heard it said its very bitter but a very distinct flavour? couldn't be mistaken for anything else? any sweetness after the bitterness fades at the back of the mouth?

Also the colour, did it have a very definite colour? Or was it white with a hint of tan in the right light?

You have mentioned you've received more than one sample, did every sample you received stick to the bag? Would you say this was a definite property of this substance?

thanks again
 
The second sample that I received was the only one that we weighed properly, the sample weighed about 165mg but there was a lot of it stuck to the back still, and some fell onto the surface before hitting the scales.
The powder was also quite light, the taste was fowl, very bitter and chemical tasting. The tongue wasn't really numb at all after.

I heard that Link_S snorted his sample and didnt report very positive effect. I would give snorting a miss.

Couldn't really compare it to much other than MDMA, it was quite a relaxed drug though, I think I would have needed some sort of pure stimulant to use it at a club.

Mugabe, did your 165mg sample come labled (with a covering note) as 'roughly 100mg'. Just wondering as thats how my first sample came but after testing Im convinced it was more; the effects felt easily double the strength of my 2nd sample which came off another vendor in a capsule and in branded packaging. There was no dosage mentioned but I would presume it was 100mg. It was a lot milder than the 1st experience
 
i got an email from a site offering me a free sample when they get there pellets on the 1st of next month. there are a few sites at the moment claiming to have the powder and they even have posted a analysis pdf file of it on the site. ive used the site loads before and it has loads of great chems so i have no reason to doubt them.
 
Mugabe, did your 165mg sample come labled (with a covering note) as 'roughly 100mg'. Just wondering as thats how my first sample came but after testing Im convinced it was more; the effects felt easily double the strength of my 2nd sample which came off another vendor in a capsule and in branded packaging. There was no dosage mentioned but I would presume it was 100mg. It was a lot milder than the 1st experience


There was a printed letter that came with the sample, We were told it was 200mg though as it was for me and my fiance, so it probably was only 100mg for you.

The second sample was a hell of a lot better for me too, I think it may have been because of the synth though.
 
Ffs

All you GREENLIGHTERS stop taking unkown bunk and thinking its the deal.

No good you arguing about it, i read the vendors excuses about bad mixx etc.

Just STOP and KNOW your shit and stay SAFE.
 
All you GREENLIGHTERS stop taking unkown bunk and thinking its the deal.

No good you arguing about it, i read the vendors excuses about bad mixx etc.

Just STOP and KNOW your shit and stay SAFE.

hear hear.
 
just becuase we are maybe new here does not mean we are new to chemicals, i suppose 15 years experience is still classed as greenlighter status to you!!!!!!!
 
Received 1g today from the "crystalline" batch. Waiting for my marquis to arrive tomorrow so I will post the results :)
 
just becuase we are maybe new here does not mean we are new to chemicals, i suppose 15 years experience is still classed as greenlighter status to you!!!!!!!

I also second this. There does seem to be a rather patronising attitude from some of the more established bluelighters to newbies. It is true that there are many new people on here and the recent media hype surrounding M-Cat has done nothing but swell the ranks of those seeking out new and novel RCs. However there are many of us who have been experimenting with the fringes of legal and illegal substances for many years, if not decades. The fact that up until now we have not found it necessary to join an on-line forum does not automatically make us naive, foolhardy, risk-taking muppets. In fact the very fact that we have found our way here means that we are at least attempting to educate ourselves. With a substance as new and relatively unknown as 6-APB the fact that you have 1000 posts to your name doesn't make you any sort of expert, we are all in the same boat, feeling our way in the dark whilst trying not to fall off any cliffs in the process.
 
just becuase we are maybe new here does not mean we are new to chemicals, i suppose 15 years experience is still classed as greenlighter status to you!!!!!!!

Yeah it shows,Necking random unknown chemicals.

maybe I should have said clueless GREENLIGHTERS.

fuck semantics, just be safe and KNOW your DRUGS
 
I also second this. There does seem to be a rather patronising attitude from some of the more established bluelighters to newbies. It is true that there are many new people on here and the recent media hype surrounding M-Cat has done nothing but swell the ranks of those seeking out new and novel RCs. However there are many of us who have been experimenting with the fringes of legal and illegal substances for many years, if not decades. The fact that up until now we have not found it necessary to join an on-line forum does not automatically make us naive, foolhardy, risk-taking muppets. In fact the very fact that we have found our way here means that we are at least attempting to educate ourselves. With a substance as new and relatively unknown as 6-APB the fact that you have 1000 posts to your name doesn't make you any sort of expert, we are all in the same boat, feeling our way in the dark whilst trying not to fall off any cliffs in the process.

I think the comments were more directed to the greenlighters (and some bluelighters ) taking foolish risks and posting information in ways that encourage others to possibly take foolish risks with them, despite the mountain of troubling evidence warning folks to stay away until we're sure that the 6-apb everyone is working with is safe and actually 6-apb. It's pretty obvious exactly which set of people we're are trying to get the message across to.

p.s. - regqarding your username...stop, drop, get on the floor, everybody walk the dinosaur...boom boom shaka laka laka boom! boom boom shaka laka laka boom boom! lol, haven't thought of that song in AGES.
 
I think the comments were more directed to the greenlighters (and some bluelighters ) taking foolish risks and posting information in ways that encourage others to possibly take foolish risks with them, despite the mountain of troubling evidence warning folks to stay away until we're sure that the 6-apb everyone is working with is safe and actually 6-apb. It's pretty obvious exactly which set of people we're are trying to get the message across to.

p.s. - regqarding your username...stop, drop, get on the floor, everybody walk the dinosaur...boom boom shaka laka laka boom! boom boom shaka laka laka boom boom! lol, haven't thought of that song in AGES.

On your first point, I completely understand. I find it pretty scary what some people are prepared to ingest in the name of a good time. The MPPP/MPTP and Bromo-Dragonfly examples should serve as cautionary tales to all! However not all Greenlighters are muppets and there also seem to be some pretty bloody silly Bluelighters around here, that was the point I was trying to make.

On your second, I have been known to throw a few shapes in my time and my dancing has been likened to to the walk of a drunk Tyrannosuarus Rex, hence the name.
 
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