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New RCs in the UK : Version 2 any vendor talk and this is getting closed

It's a shame we can't discover the sources of the stats above. I never did get a chance to research flephedrone lol

The NRG range was dubious right from the start, this just proves it. Along with the above list, no doubt there are those sending people chalk dust and baking soda.

The next gen legal highs are in a mess, not labelling anything and leaving us relying on guinea pigs who tell of mixed results. I'd almost been tempted with m-butylone, but can't get a peep out of anyone regarding its' content, which again puts me off completely.

We can but hope for the few new RC's like 6-apb, should they eventually reach the market...
 
technics said:
It's a shame we can't discover the sources of the stats above. I never did get a chance to research flephedrone lol
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Flephedrone is really mild, I went through five grams in a week, subtle euphoria and stimulation, no side effects like pupil dilation, jaw clenching, etc, very easy to sleep on it.

Taken orally it's so subtle that it's on the borderline of making you think that what you're feeling might actually just be placebo, snorted it gets slightly more intense.

I only bought it because it was on offer, wouldn't bother with it again.
 
Ah well, at least I haven't missed much, thanks for the reply ;)

I hear reports about a number of new party powders with familiar effects at higher doses, but this still doesn't tempt me. One minute someone says they're awesome, the next they're said to be rubbish. At least with pre-ban products there was continuity in users experiences :-\
 
Can anyone confirm what sparkle is? I got 1g of stuff a few weeks back that was labeled MDAI/sparkle. I'd heard sparkle was something else though previously, i.e. not MDAI. Did it with some friends was relatively mild but more interesting than some MDAI I had tried a few months ago. Felt more stimulating. Bizarrely it tasted/smelt like strawberries, especially insufflated! Was quite nice really, but my friend said his tongue swelled up for a few days after dabbing it, so I didn't get hold of any more.
 
^well an individual purchase of it could be anything really, but supposedly the name sparkle does refer to MDAI. And on the one occasion I've seen pure, white MDAI, i could see why it might be called that because it was small-medium crystals that really did have a noticably far greater sparkly effect that anything I've seen.
 
I bought 'sparkle/mdai' which came as pure white crystals and was not mdai. It tested yellow with Marquis and tasted kind of salty. Had no effect on bioassay at all.
 
probably the MDAI that was tested in a lab to be an "inorganic composition"
 
Final warning here, this thread is not about when vendors are releasing chemicals, when and if a chemical is available or anything but the effects/properties of these drugs. Any posts after this point ignoring this and previous warnings are being warned/infracted straight off.
 
I've read a few posts but I still don't have a clear idea about the duration of 6-APB, I remember asking a similar question but I can't remember whether it was here or on some other forum I go to.

So let's say one sticks to a single oral dose, let's say 60 to 80 mgs, how long does the euphoria last, the visuals(if any), after how much time would I be able to interact normally with members of the public, as in people who might find it strange if my pupils are massively dilated, or I'm jaw clenching, etc.?
 
Mental Kenny said:
I've read a few posts but I still don't have a clear idea about the duration of 6-APB, I remember asking a similar question but I can't remember whether it was here or on some other forum I go to.

So let's say one sticks to a single oral dose, let's say 60 to 80 mgs, how long does the euphoria last, the visuals(if any), after how much time would I be able to interact normally with members of the public, as in people who might find it strange if my pupils are massively dilated, or I'm jaw clenching, etc.?
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It seems that it took about 30-60 minutes to come up. Then peaking for about 3 hours and then slowly coming down for a couple of hours and then a couple more hours of very small effects.

On a dose of 100mg it would probably be hard to interact with the public without looking like you were really fucked. Not sure about a lower dose. Your pupils will most likely be massive and you will be gurning probably.
 
^ I've got a little more peak than that usually mugabe (more like four to five) and still stimulated a few hours after that (i'm light and i didn't eat much any time i tried). It's that ymmv thingy.

Though i suppose we could all define 'peak' in different ways... (always hard to objectively describe subjective states of mind)
 
Gonna try o-desmethyltramadol soon, anyone have any exp as to how it compares with other opiates?
 
I've heard it's good compared to tramadol but shit even compared to codeine
 
Hmm maybe i'll give that one a miss then. Got some phenaz coming tomorrow since i've been in afew situations recently where i could do with a benzo but had nothing to hand, good starting dose for someone fairly benzo tolerant anyone? I'm thinking 1.5mg, pretty sure its not some of the low quality stuff.
 
ymmv - for me tramadol 300 MR is far superior to 300mg codeine which does nowt but give me stomach ache. o-desmethyltramadol is supposed to be a little more potent than tramadol?
 
From looking elsewhere seems to be more of a 'true' opiate than tramadol. Does sound quite promising, though some reports say its shite. Cant hurt to give it a try, since i've got a very low tolerance to opis and the reports that were underwhelmed sounded like they were from people with much higher tolerance
 
it's the active metabolite (or one of them) of tramadol which is more potent by weight (about twice) and less effects on the seizure threshold (apparently, have read conflicting things so don't just go by what I say for this one). Tramadol feels like nothing but an anti depressant for me at low doses, slight opiate effects at 400mg and not willing to go over that because of the seizure threshold lowering.
 
codeine > tramadull

infact, asprin > tramadull

Link S, phenazepam.. i fucked up on that stuff pretty bad, many other on here have as well, exercise extreme caution with that shit!
 
I dunno, i found tramadol quite enjoyable with a few spliffs, really relaxing. o-dmt's meant to be a whole different ball game though =D, and the phenaz isnt being touched until the propylene glycols arrived dont you worry :). Or was there issues even when you could dose correctly?
 
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