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I am on a psychedelic Mission.

Onoe

Onoe

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I plan on trying all of the known Research Chemicals while I still can.

What would be the safest route to take? I was thinking of a Weekly dosing plan.

For example:

This weekend experiment with 2C-B

next weekend 5-meo-dmt

weekend after that 2C-E

etc...

Would a weekly dosing plan be too heavy on the body/mind?
 
Some are pretty forgiving, like 2C-B.

But for for example 5-MeO-DMT, I personally like to prepare myself for the experience. It can be earth shattering beautiful, don't get me wrong, but it's very intense. Not something I'ld like to do just because it's on my schedule.
 
There are too many chemicals. You could probably do it, but you wouldn't know much about each chemical. You only truly learn about a chemical through multiple usage. Especially psychedelics... who tend to be somewhat different all the time... or you don't become aware of certain effects until later experiences.

The other thing is, how can you be so sure of what dose to take. I think you should instead play around with each chemical for a while before moving onto the next one.... and not worry too much about having tried them all... A lot of them are unpopular, and they are unpopular for a reason. Do some research and continue tripping. You will find new chemicals that are more meaningful to you, rather than just trying every chemical all willy nilly... because then you'll just have a collection of odd buzzes.
 
omicamushroom said:
There are too many chemicals. You could probably do it, but you wouldn't know much about each chemical. You only truly learn about a chemical through multiple usage. Especially psychedelics... who tend to be somewhat different all the time... or you don't become aware of certain effects until later experiences.

The other thing is, how can you be so sure of what dose to take. I think you should instead play around with each chemical for a while before moving onto the next one.... and not worry too much about having tried them all... A lot of them are unpopular, and they are unpopular for a reason. Do some research and continue tripping. You will find new chemicals that are more meaningful to you, rather than just trying every chemical all willy nilly... because then you'll just have a collection of odd buzzes.
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I agree 100% with this.
i prefer to cater to my tastes when it comes to drugs.
if the effects dont suit me, i wont try it.
if the cons outweigh the pros, i wont take it.
find whats right, what works, for YOU as an individual, and your experiences will be much more rewarding.

although it WOULD be pretty sweet to be able to say youve tried EVERY drug known to man =D


Yerg said:
Not taking every single unresearched drug you can lay your hands on.
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true this.
 
omicamushroom said:
There are too many chemicals. You could probably do it, but you wouldn't know much about each chemical. You only truly learn about a chemical through multiple usage. Especially psychedelics...
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This says it all really.

Like most boys, I went through a stage of wanting to collect "stuff" purely for the sake of collecting it - started with old coins then went to a mercifully brief fling with football stickers (I blame the pre-pubescent peer pressure 8)). I've mostly grown out of such pointless and dull collecting obsessions cos they're... pointless and dull.

However, I am very proud of my lil collection of RCs - some of which are fairly rare so the equivalent of one of those metallic footie stickers that kids at school would offer most of the Second Division for swapsies. Sadly, much of that collection consists of empty baggies with a bit of residue stuck in the corner and a fading label that's beginning to peel a bit. But I still love 'em - even the ones I've had for ages but never found the right moment to try.

All of which is a long-winded way of saying that I can understand the "Gotta catch 'em all" thing - tis a boy thing, I suspect.

Problems that leap to mind with your plan are twofold. Firstly, do you have any concept of the sheer number of RCs that already exist let alone those that somebody somewhere is beavering away over? Thousands if not tens of thousands of 'em. Many of which nobody in their right mind would touch with a shitty stick.Would you really trust yourself with dosing 1ug of carfentanil without killing yourself? Or how about a shot of MPTP? Or maybe a lil hit of MK-9470? Probably not but they are RCs so you can't complete your mission without them.

Assuming you narrow the options down to a particular type of RC that interests you - psyches I would imagine. As Omica pointed out - charging through them at a rate of knots just to stick to an arbitrary schedule seems kinda pointless to me. Would just all merge into psychedelic soup and I doubt you'd be able to remember which one did what let alone whether you enjoyed it at all or learnt something from it. Would be great fun, I'm sure. But would just be a fractal blur of swirlz and pretty things even if such a regime caused you no actual physical, mental or emotional (amongst other risk factors) harm.

Get yourself a sweet collection of the kewlest of kewl chems by all means, but no need to guzzle the lot to fit within a timescale that is just asking for trouble in every possible way. Especially when - I suspect - you would learn precious little about yourself or any of the drugs you use in the process. I could drink a different alcoholic beverage every night trying to collect 'em all but would achieve sod all other than the dubious benefits of sleeping on park benches, fighting pigeons and producing my very own homemade fois gras.

Psyches are too good to just use as notches on your headboard - get to know a few intimately and gradually add more to the party and maybe see how the various combinations play together too, would be my suggestion. They really do give you so much more if you get to know them intimately over time rather than just hump 'em and dump 'em ;)
 
Yes but what does good mean? Is 2c-c as good as 2c-i? Not to me but others think that 2c-i is a waste psychedelic while I have had some amazing times where it was just as deep as 2c-e or 2c-t-2. To the OP just be careful whatever you do and if you do not know your mind's limits then figure them out before going "too far".
 
To be honest, without spending time with each drug getting to know its specific nature, some of the more closely related ones will likely seem like the same trip as the last to you. I guess it depends on how in tune you are with your own self already and how adept you are at picking up on sometimes subtle differences in expression the more closely related chemicals have. I'm sure you'll do fine differentiating 5-MeO-DMT from 2C-B, but 2C-C from 2C-B probably won't be nearly as obvious to the untrained nervous system, and might just be a waste other than to put an x next to it on the conquest list.

If you do plan on doing it this, depending on what your goals for taking on this kind of approach, I would suggest finding someway to record your impressions of the experience as it happens, and also the day after the experience. Taking notes will at least give you a way of re-living the experience during the week before you move on to the next chemical. Personally, I have worked with an approach similar to this at times, although not nearly in such strict terms of one and done and on to the next. Usually I will have around 3-5 experiences with something before I move on to another chemical.

Think of it like traveling. If you spend a day in a place you won't really get the feel for it, but if you spend a couple weeks there then you will come away with a much fuller experience of the place.
 
Holy crap, what region do you live in that you get access to small quantities of any kind of RC you want?! That's frikkin awesome, I wanna get to know your friends! :D ;)

Aside from that, I would say the 'good ones' are any ones that have a Big & Dandy thread here with lots of positive replies. Personally I'm only interested in 4-AcO-DMT at the moment.
 
IMHO you should switch it up. I'm on a similar mission, but i don't think i'm gonna try ALL of the RCs. There's too many and many of them suck. I would go for trying all the more popular ones. Pretty much once I found 4 aco dmt my search for psy RCs was over. Try to switch it up with the family of chem every week. Don't take 2c-x 4 weekends in a row.
Have funnn!!!!
 
I say a better mission is this: seek out one new psychedelic at a time and try each one a couple times until you find at least one that you really like and react well to. Then, explore that one a little deeper, and maybe branch out to some closely related compounds you haven't tried to explore similar headspaces. Maybe see if there are any specific drugs reputed to combo uniquely well with your new chosen compound and try those combos out.

The first time I smoked pot, I didn't get high at all. The first time I took a psychedelic (mushrooms), I didn't have a profound or enlightening experience, just some euphoria, silly thoughts and pretty colors. I would lie and say my first roll wasn't good just to make my point stronger, but that would be bullshit; it was epic ;) The point is, one taste is not enough to get a feel for each chemical, and it would be a mighty waste to go through the effort of hunting down each chemical just to try a single dose.

P.S. - if the "while I still can" bit is a reference to the threat that these compounds could be banned in the future, in my opinion that's all the more reason to go quality over quantity - figure out which ones are your favorites and stock up!
 
I understand this on the same level that shambles more eloquently said earlier, but at the same time, i there are many that i have no desire to try.

Also, even just trying all the 2c-x's would be a tall order, as there are so many that are hard to find or unavailable. I've tried most of the easily available ones -b, -c, -d, -e, -i, t-2, and i've got some 2c-p waiting in the wings for the right moment, hopefully next week sometime. I'd like to get some t-7 and pretty much anything from the 2c-g series, but who knows if that'll ever be available to me.

Anyway, I'd start reading through the *iHKALs as that's probably the best place to start, then start deciding which compounds you'd like to try. I assume you're into psych's as we're in the psych thread, so my advice would be to look into 2c-e and 4-AcO-DMT, as those seem to both be top of the line for most.
 
you may first want to read
Pihkal - A Chemical Love Story and TiHKAL The TRYPTAMINES, by Alexander Shulgin
to get a better understanding of these RC's
 
I'm on a similar quest of collection, mainly due to my paranoia that at any moment the next Web Tryp will go down in Canada and legislation passed that will reduce availability to the few very well connected people, or those who can cook themselves.

But I'm paranoid by nature, it may never happen. But at the moment it just seems too good to be true that I can order mind-blowing drugs on the interwebs and have them delivered discreetly to my front door.
 
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