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Can I legally get away with smoking cannabis for medical purposes ?

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Unlucky

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A lot of people here know me for my drug adverse reactions, over the years the majority of my threads here have been about my attempts to find a pain medication my body can actually tolerate without landing me in the Emergency Room.

The challenging factor here is in fact my disability which is a neurological condition known as "Autonomic Dyfunction" so any substance that stimulates my Autonomic nervous system causes issues, most severe ones being opiates, analgesics and stimulants. Even a single Panadene Forte, or Tramadol is enough to cause a major disruption in my vitals resulting in respiratory depression, hyperthermia, muscle spams, high blood pressure, bradycardia, irregular heart, confusion, headaches and a visit to the Emergency Room.

Despite trialling every opiate out there and experiencing issues with all of them I recently decided to move onto Cannabis in an attempt to manage my severe daily pain. I found Cannabis to be very effective on my pain and with minimal adverse effects, granted that I don't overdo it.

So now I am able to practice my human right to be pain free except that I am going against the law to achieve it, but I feel that with my current unique situation I have every right to it and anyone who tries to deny me that right is discriminating against me and my disability because they are failing to recognize my unique situation that does not allow me other forms of pain relief because I unlike others out there do not have the luxury of trialling other legal options. But what do you guys think ? Do I have a case if I ever get busted ?
 
Sadly no mate! The law is the law...although it is a bit more lax over here then say in the states! They bust down cancer patients doors and shoot their family dogs for only having like a quarter ounce..This happens hundreds of times per day. Its all a pathetic joke... "The Drug War"


But you are breaking the law... now if a cop was walking past and saw you. It would be up to his discretion.

But the law is the law. Period.
 
Yea I see what your saying but it is unlikely that a there are many other cases out there like mine where a person has such a brod spectrum adverse reaction to every single existing opiate on the market, most people if they have a morphine allergy for example they can still tolerate fentanyl or hydromorphone or another alternative, so no offence to cancer patients but the majority of them have this option to use other prescription powerful pain medication.

The key word here is "options" and as long as people have other alternative options the law can argue that cannabis was unnecassary and unlawful however I don't have any other "options", Ive trialled and exhausted all possible avenues.

I guess I'm not above the law as I assumed, so I've decided to fight for my basic human right to be pain free I'm going to begin with writing a letter to parliment and sending them a copy of all my medical history and proof from specialists and ER visits occuring from various opiates and hopefully I can get some sort of exception.
 
If you have to use it then I would say continue to use it. Unless you are really unsubtle you shouldn't have to worry about police interference.
If you did get into trouble you could try to convince the officer arresting but your best chance would be a sufficient medical proof that cannabis is your only option and that would greatly increase the chances of the judge giving you no recorded conviction.
 
There's no point in justifying it to us. I'm pretty sure if it ever came down to it, with all your proof the judge would should be forgiving. I can't see how you would be caught though unless you were ridiculously indiscreet about it.
 
^ The purpose of this thread was more of a reality check for myself as I was uncertain where my situation would stand in the legal system, and the only times I worry about being caught is when I'm driving home from picking up.
 
Id keep the weed to yourself. If your caught id think they would go pretty light, only giving you a token punishment if you go to court. You might not have to go to court though. If you do have court, maybe contact the media and if your lucky you might be the nice test case as why medical pot is needed. something to sway the public.
 
Your situation may be the perfect reason to legalise cannabis for medical use. That being said avoid having to be the one who is the catalyst for set legalization. So do not draw undue attention to yourself. Use what you need too, and if you ever get caught have your dr's testify for you etc. i bet you'd get off lightly.
 
Thanks everyone for your comments, its given me a better idea of what to expect.
 
Hey Unlucky, as the others have pointed out the law is the law, but perhaps you should keep an eye out for any medicinal cannabis trials that might be started and try applying for them? I haven't heard of very many of these happening in Australia though unfortunately.
 
You could also get that GW pharmaceutical Cannabis spray if your doctor has the balls to apply for you to get it sent here. Needless to say the government is unlikely to allow it. But just giving you your options. I'd say to order seeds and grow your own too instead of buying it from a dealer. That way you can choose a strain that is good for your condition.
 
I posted this in the "Hallucinogenic Cannabis? - White Rhino" thread. But it seems much more relevant here. I am a firm believer in the medical and pharmacological benefits of the cannabis plant. The fact it remains illegal and not used for medical purposes (in Australia) is an absolute disgrace considering its range of pharmacological actions, particularly in regard to problems with nausea and appetite something every cancer patient must deal with.

I'm not for a second saying marijuana is safe and something everyone would benefit from - not at all. But what I am saying is that it has been a proven medicine for many illnesses with less side effects than the usual tablets dished out by pharmacists.

Here is the chart I posted in the other thread which fits in much better here. Showing the various pharmacological actions of the primary psychoactive chemicals within the average mature cannabis plant.

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^ Sometimes I think about the day when cannabis would be an accepted and proven treatment for such patients, particularly cancer... then I remember cannabis causes me to suffer psychosis. Would it be better to deal with delusions and hallucinations rather then the illness the contemporary anti-cancer drugs cause? I'm not sure, either way sounds like I would be outta luck. :\
 
Mr Blonde said:
^ Sometimes I think about the day when cannabis would be an accepted and proven treatment for such patients, particularly cancer... then I remember cannabis causes me to suffer psychosis. Would it be better to deal with delusions and hallucinations rather then the illness the contemporary anti-cancer drugs cause? I'm not sure, either way sounds like I would be outta luck. :\
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Congrats on 10k posts ^

Your one of the very few examples where cannabis has had a profound negative impact on your mental state. A very vast majority of users do not experience psychosis and find it to be very beneficial in many ways.

You can use opiates for pain anyway, and there's plenty of other effective analgesic's out there.
 
Ooh Mr. Blonde, I am honoured that you had your 10'th post on my topic =D , Congratulations woooot "throws confetti" !!!...

Great idea for me to keep an eye out for cannabis trials, thanks for that. And don't feel so bad that your body reacts adversely to it, as long as you have other options your not missing out on much and as L3inad said opiates are much more effective on pain anyways granted that your not like me and can tolerate them. If it makes you feel any better I can't take any of the other good stuff that you most likely can, but I know how you feel.

Puckboy, I had in fact seen your chart when you first posted it and I liked it so much I already had it saved onto my computer, it is indeed a wonder drug. Thank you for the chart.
 
while legal grounds do not exist in our country, your case would be much more compelling than the average joe's.

I can't think of anything worse than having an adverse reaction to stims :o but then again, I'd never gone through the motions of over-using them so it might have worked in my favour!!!!
 
i just watched super high me tonight. i always thought medicinal marijuana was a joke and an excuse for ppl to smoke but now my views changed slightly and im interested to find out more. ppl in california swear by it.
regardless it should be legalised anyway. its too hard to police ppl growing a plant and the long term negative effects seem to be the minority
 
Congrats on 10k posts ^

Your one of the very few examples where cannabis has had a profound negative impact on your mental state. A very vast majority of users do not experience psychosis and find it to be very beneficial in many ways.

You can use opiates for pain anyway, and there's plenty of other effective analgesic's out there.
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Ha ha cheers, I didn't even realize I'd hit the big 10k. :D

Regarding the psychosis, yeah I realize I'm in the minority there thankfully because I bet that medicinal cannabis could help a lot of people. Perhaps though I could use certain cannabinoids and not THC? I don't really feel like experimenting though, could be a recipe for disaster!

Unlucky said:
opiates are much more effective on pain anyways granted that your not like me and can tolerate them
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Ha ha, you could say I tolerate them quite well. :)
 
FacedAgain I am very grateful to you for bringing that to my attention, it is so promising to see Australia first authorised medical cannabis clinic, yay!!!! =D

"covers FacedAgain in kisses <3<3<3<3<3"
 
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