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Female Seed Indentification

neverjiggy

neverjiggy

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is this legit? i'm thinking about growing and i've read everywhere else that you have to wait for ages to find out if it's a male or female

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I'm calling bullshit. fastest way is to plant, 12/12, and pray.

I'm sure Panic_ could shed some good light on this, though.
 
It's bullshit. There is no way to tell what kind of seeds you have just by appearance, jeez :\

Seems this is from rollitup.org, one of the less mature/knowledgable grow sites around and full of kids that speak shit IMO, although there are some great growers on there.
 
This is bollocks. Plant sex isn't fixed in the way animal sex is, and environmental factors make a big difference (stress causing hermaphroditism being the best known example). When you plant the seeds, you can influence the sex ratio with humidity, hours of light, temps etc.
 
I'm going to agree with the three replies previous to this. That's bullshit. If you'repressed for space and can only grow a few, you can spend the extra bit for femenized seeds. But this method isn't going to be accurate.
 
^Aren't feminised seeds produced from by stressing female plants until they turn hermy and then pollinating another female, and thus liable to grow into hermies themselves?
 
Yerg said:
^Aren't feminised seeds produced from by stressing female plants until they turn hermy and then pollinating another female, and thus liable to grow into hermies themselves?
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This used to be the case, and was up until a few years ago. The current method for creating feminized seeds involves using a silver-palladium generator(may be incorrect as to the exact metals), which will cause plants (male or female) to hermaphrodite, without the need for the tendency to lie dormant in the genetics. This allows them to create femenized seeds that have no more inclination to hermie than your standard genetics. I'm probably just sticking to them in the future, clones bring bugs and disease and males waste my lumens, nutes, and plant count.
 
^ That is my understanding, but for some people, getting promised female forced seeds is a trade off they are willing to take. I see nothing really wrong if you are growing for yourself and get a hermie, just some seeds where there should not be any. If you growing more than one plant, I wouldn't go this route, as it could obviously fuck your entire harvest.


edit: Carl knows more about this particular subject than I do, but after a quick google check that all sounds right. Nice info!
 
Thanks for clearing that up carl, I had wondered if the technique had changed as they seem to have improved vastly since they first came on the market.
 
Yep, I had the same (mis)understanding until a few months ago, and learning that has really been put to use (and confirmed) in my garden. I'd have no problem recommending femmed seeds (so long as they are from a legitimate breeder) to anyone. Most other growers I know grows from clone, which leads to everyone having the same exact genetics and same exact pathogens and bugs. Spider mites are rampant (and a non-native species) in my corner of Northern Colorado... but that's a whole nother thread.
 
Yeah, it's pretty dull when everyone has the same few strains that are selected for cloning well rather than for the quality of the smoke.
 
total crap...

femmed seeds, like carl said, are seeds harvested from female plants forced to hermie in a way that would not generally be encountered in the garden (silver spraying, not really sure or care that much on the exact method).

Because this 'hermification' is done only on otherwise healthy plants with no hermie tendancies and using a method that will not be reproduced in the normal garden, the resulting plants will have the exact genetic makup of their mother and will not be predisposed to going hermie.

In the normal garden female plants that are subjected to certain kinds and levels of stress (extreme temperatures, light leaks, etc.) will hermaphrodite and pollenate themselves sometimes. I think this is like a defense mechanism, like if the plant 'thinks' its chances of living long enough to capture pollen are slim it will force itself to grow balls to ensure the continuation of its line.
 
Those hardly look like dank seeds.

perhaps this applies to other plants that make seeds similar to cannabis.
those seeds seem much less symmetrical and diamond shape and do not look like an oval symmetrical tiger striped seed. perhaps there is another plant that follows those rules.

I have also heard feminized seeds produce a lower yield due to their feminization process.

the process for making feminized seeds is available under the IC mag thread "collidial silver generator" i think ; simply spray your flowering plants with the product of the tek and get female nanners.
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In my last crop i sprouted 7 bagseed and 7 of 7 were they were female, it is very possible they were from seeds that were unintentionally feminized due to stress. 5 of them are sativa dominant and one I believe to be a bubblegum seed, it flowered about 2 to 3 weeks later than my grape apes; with a highly different bud structure.
the other is still vegging so we will see what genetics it has.

2 of my seeds were genetic freaks one of them grew balls in the center of a leaf. the spot where all the blades come to a point grew a sack of balls. i have seen a female flower in that spot but not a male flower, this plant continues to amaze me.
 
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Unless a mature, viable seed has been 'feminized' you stand a 50/50 chance of it producing a female plant in a neutral growing environment and there is nothing about its physical appearance that will up your chances... period. Seeds come in a huge range of colours, patterns and sizes in nature and cultivation with the single purpose of producing a viable plant. With the exception of the odd seed you'll find in sinse buds (which tend to produce female offspring anyway) the run-of-the-mill seed you sow will be sexually indeterminate. You can (and will) improve the female to male ratio once germination happens with correct cultural practices, but this isn't the right thread for going into that.
 
^ So if the environment effects the sex of the seedling, directly after germination, why would the seedling not have physical attributes associated with this?


edit; you're talking about seed only not seedling---never mind
 
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neverjiggy said:
started germinating 8 seeds today. i tried to select ones according to the diagram so we'll see how they turn out
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the diagram is just a hoax.
i have handled MANY a fem'd seed. they do not exhibit that little depression that diagram is talking about. in fact im looking at a packet of 10 right now. nope, they are all normal looking.
 
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