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how bad is rolling every week or so actually?

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so i already have anxiety issues and i really dont wanna exacerbate them. so far ive rolled 4 or 5 times over the period of about 3 months. thats almost the recommended 4-6 weeks... but anyway one time i rolled one day a week, 2 weeks in a row. i didnt notice myself feeling shitty or slow or anything. so if i did once a week for 4 or 5 weeks in a row, would i start getting etarded and stuff like that?
 
its gonna wear you out rolling every week and eventually you'll get negative effects like depression and anxiety issues. i'd keep your rolls to once a month maximum if you want them to remain special. if you overdue MDMA it's gonna put you into a shitty frame of mind eventually and in the end it's just not worth it. moderation is key with this substance.

these days i roll about twice a year ...
 
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MDMA tolerance is permanent and you may feel more depressed if you suddenly cannot roll anymore. I try to roll 1-2 times a year and it feels like my mental cherry is popped all over again. =D Respect the things you love with moderation and the love will come back. =D
 
spike14163 said:
MDMA tolerance is permanent and you may feel more depressed if you suddenly cannot roll anymore. I try to roll 1-2 times a year and it feels like my mental cherry is popped all over again. =D Respect the things you love with moderation and the love will come back. =D
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Is MDMA tolerance really permanent? It's rather persistent but I have a feeling it's just stubborn :/

If anyone can cite a source to clarify it'd be greatly appreciated.
 
I wouldn't recommend it. I did it for the first time the other day. I seem to be having trouble sleeping and have had lots of half awake dream-like thoughts. Then again I also took way too much. I'm looking at this experience as a life lesson and I'm going to be taking a break for a while.
 
spike14163 said:
MDMA tolerance is permanent and you may feel more depressed if you suddenly cannot roll anymore. I try to roll 1-2 times a year and it feels like my mental cherry is popped all over again. =D Respect the things you love with moderation and the love will come back. =D
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Isn't that contradicting? You say tolerance is permanent, but when you do E in moderation, "the love will come back".

I'd go with 'persistent' from the post below you, based on what I've read about it.
 
MDMA tolerance is not permanent. Maybe the psychological tolerance, but that is something I find a little overplayed, with respect to true physiological tolerance (i.e receptor down-regulation, which seems to be the most supported theory)

Luckily, our serotonergic systems are fragile but CAN heal themselves - unlike our dopaminergic system.
 
The problem is that the long term effects from mdma usage (abuse or even moderate usage) still really isn't known in humans. Labs have been completed on lab rodents, but there isn't a lot of human data. In the spirit of harm reduction its not advisable to use mdma more than every 4 weeks, but even that may be pushing it. I know that I personally cannot roll that often or I notice negative side affects. Its always best to err on the side of caution. Just because you don't *feel* damage doesn't mean that it isn't there. :)
 
It's always best to space your rolls apart by *at least* one month, and even that is really pushing it. Once you start chasing that feeling weekly, it's just nowhere near worth the experience anymore.
 
every week, after a while it becomes REALLY FUCKING BAD... lots of depression, rolling not that good anymore... but, rolling once a month or 21 days makes it up...
 
I can personally say taking a break for a few months helped my tolerance go down, but personal chemistry is just that- personal. I think abusing MDMA results more in loss of the quality of the rolling experience- less joy, intensity and love once you "get there", whether it takes you a lot or a little.
 
its not bad at all as long as you take breaks when neccessary and/or eventually stop. an dont let a bad come down make you think your totally fucked up an let it spiral into some retarded anxiety that all the tweaks on here talk about, mind over matter.
 
Occasionally it's not that bad. Chances are you will recover just fine.
Just don't make a habit out of it, because it can turn out fairly bad. And most likely it will.
 
It's all mostly speculation-no one knows for sure if rolling two weekends in a row, then taking a break is "ok", but I think a lot of us have done it, and been "ok"
 
I used to roll about once a month over a period of about 2 years. I did end up with some anxiety but I actually think that was from taking coke more than pills. Anyway I stopped completely for a few years as I was getting cravings for MDMA. They passed for sure, however I would certainly consider rolling again
 
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its not bad at all as long as you take breaks when neccessary and/or eventually stop. an dont let a bad come down make you think your totally fucked up an let it spiral into some retarded anxiety that all the tweaks on here talk about, mind over matter.
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Excellent advice. The second time I rolled I thought I was going to be braindead forever. The depression was so consuming that I thought I would never recover. I am getting a couple rolls today, but I'm not taking one at a time, I figure I will insuffulate half at a time along with some nice dank to go along with it.

Weed potentiates the hell out of rolls imo.

But thank you again for this advice, I'll try my best to keep a strong mind over the comedown. Then again, I want the comedown to be harsh so I can maintain a stronger relationship against it in the first place. Meaning I am trying to get over having harsh comedowns.

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