The Official Psychedelic Rock Thread v. Interstellar Overdrive

^egg is awesome, you would like their earlier incarnation with Steve hillage, arzachel. Also the nice is cool

I just don't consider the grateful dead psychedelic. They don't use any trippy sounds at all. They are just a folk band.
 
I loved psychedelic rock. In particular: TOOL, Floyd, King Crimson (surprised no one has mentioned them yet), Doors, the usual. Then I got to thinking... isn't all good music psychedelic instead of the other way around?
 
I just don't consider the grateful dead psychedelic. They don't use any trippy sounds at all. They are just a folk band.

I'm not going to argue if they are or are not psychedelic, but i'll leave you with a possible explanation:


When Ken Kesey and Neal Cassidy rode around with the Merry Pranksters on the west coast from '65-'67 hosting acid tests, guess which band, dosed to the gils, almost exclusively performed at these parties?
 
^egg is awesome, you would like their earlier incarnation with Steve hillage, arzachel. Also the nice is cool

I just don't consider the grateful dead psychedelic. They don't use any trippy sounds at all. They are just a folk band.


Which goes to show that good psychedelic music doesn't need trippy sounds. Good psychedelic music will fuck with your brain with it's sheer musical composition. I would have to say using a bunch of effects is the "easy way out" when it comes to psychedelic music. Anybody can plug effects into their instruments these days and deem themselves a psychedelic band.

I can make a psychedelic song with just an acoustic guitar, people tell me my music is trippy all of the time. What is even more psychedelic is if I multi-track and experiment with overlapping time signatures etc. With my psychedelic music, I like for it to have dense layers which flow smoothly with each other and give you that dank feeling. But if you have too much going on it will just sound murky.


If you think that Grateful Dead is "just a folk band" then you have some serious listening to do. They are some of the pioneers of psychedelic music.

If you learn more about music and then realize what's going on in a Grateful Dead song, they are definitely psychedelic. Sure a lot of their music is based around country, folk, blues, and rock, but The Dead have learned to combine all of those genres into one psychedelic mass, especially in their live performances.

To me there is nothing more psychedelic than a live 10 minute Dead jam; you can feel the synergy between them when they improvise, and once you start to learn music theory, you start to hear music differently, at least in my experience.

Saying that Grateful Dead isn't Psychedelic seems a little absurd to me. Why do you think most of their followers are acid trippers? Why is it that when you go to a Grateful Dead show it's practically raining LSD?


Listen to the song "China Cat Sunflower" off the album "Europe '72".
 
I agree that psychedelic music doesnt have to be smothered in trippy effects, just look at Barret's solo albums. A dissonant progression goes along way and can be as equally trippy as a plethora of effects when done correctly.

But I wouldnt consider the Grateful Dead to be a straight forward 'psychedelic' band. They play really long, extended, groovy sets which appeals to people on psychedelics. And sure, they have psychedelic features but their music goes deeper than psychedelia imo. Its really hard to label the Dead as a psychedelic band or a folk band ect.
 
I agree that psychedelic music doesnt have to be smothered in trippy effects, just look at Barret's solo albums. A dissonant progression goes along way and can be as equally trippy as a plethora of effects when done correctly.

But I wouldnt consider the Grateful Dead to be a straight forward 'psychedelic' band. They play really long, extended, groovy sets which appeals to people on psychedelics. And sure, they have psychedelic features but their music goes deeper than psychedelia imo. Its really hard to label the Dead as a psychedelic band or a folk band ect.


You're right about that. But saying The Dead aren't psychedelic seems wrong. They have all kinds of music including psychedelic music.

Effects just get old to me after a while, if you can use them sparsely and with subtlety they are beautiful but when used too much it gets annoying.

Syd Barrett is the shit. On this version of Interstellar Overdrive, there aren't many effects at all, but it takes me straight back to a full blown LSD trip.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUHMltEOLds
 
How about, Cream 'Disraeli Gears'

I dont know if I would consider the Grateful Dead psychedelic per say [as weird as that maybe] for me lazy river road and many other songs/albums invoke the thought of carefree, Americana, BBQ's, skunky funky smelly green shit, lounge chairs, good friends, cold beers, and dancing girls illuminated by the backdrop of a hazy sunset. But than again throw in a dash or two of some lsd and a live show and hippies spinning in circles, lightning cracking over head when the band is playing 'The Wheel' and its pretty psychedelic.

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Ok then, but I will leave you guys with this. The Grateful Dead helped establish what psychedelic music is. So you can't say that they aren't psychedelic.

Plus, when the dead play a show, they know everyone is tripping, and they make an extra effort to make their show extra trippy for everyone.

:P.

To me psychedelia is synonymous with grateful dead.
 
I think the critics consider most of these "psyche-prog" or "neo-psychedelic" but whatever. These are some of the modern psychedelic musicians no self-respecting tripper should miss:

Animal Collective: the first band ever to be allowed to officially sample the Grateful Dead ("Unbroken Chain" on "What Would I Want Sky"). Like them or not -- and I like them a lot so fuck you naysayers in advance -- they're the inheritors of the legacy. What Would I Want? Sky (fan made, but one of the few that has studio audio)

Grizzly Bear Ready, Able

Caribou Jamelia

Bear in Heaven: They're lesser known but their latest is getting great reviews. "Ketamine Prog" may be a more appropriate genre term for them. You Do You

Erland and the Carnival: more folky than the rest, with a greater emphasis on clearly articulated and poetically trippy lyrics. Trouble in Mind (trippy vid, but not in a cliche way)

Yeasayer: check out "2080" for a good introduction.
 
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Ok then, but I will leave you guys with this. The Grateful Dead helped establish what psychedelic music is. So you can't say that they aren't psychedelic.

Plus, when the dead play a show, they know everyone is tripping, and they make an extra effort to make their show extra trippy for everyone.

:P.

To me psychedelia is synonymous with grateful dead.

The Dead were staples in the early psychedelic community. They were/are psychedelic people but as I said before, it's difficult to label their music as 'psychedelic'. Just as Allen Ginsberg was a staple to the early psychedelic community, I wouldnt describe his writing as 'psychedelic.'
 
A great, obscure psychedelic rock song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KtB7yTBws-I

Some of my favorite psychedelic/neo-psychedelic bands & albums:

Hawkwind- technically it's "space rock", but its very trippy. Sounds so weird that me and my friends started calling weed "hawkwind", as in "hey man, lets smoke some hawkwind and go to the pool"
The Olivia Tremor Control- beautiful neo-psychedelia pop
Thee Oh Sees- Psychedelic Garage Rock
Pink Floyd
Animal Collective
The Brian Jonestown Massacre
The Beach Boys- the SMiLE album
The Zombies- Odessey and Oracle!
The Pretty Things- SF Sorrow
The Beatles- Sgt. Pepper
Psychedelic Horseshit- Noisy, Experimental, Lo-Fi Psychedelic Punk
 
I like it :)

I've never checked them out before I will now be doing so
Thanks I hadn't heard Circulatory System. Seems good.
I'm glad you two like them. Their music is that much more amazing knowing that Signal Morning was largely made after the lead singer was diagnosed with multiple sclerosis in 2008. You've really got to have a passion for the music to do that.
 
Psychedelic Horseshit- Noisy, Experimental, Lo-Fi Psychedelic Punk

Have listened to these guys before. Very noisy, and the music is just so harsh. Still they make some semi-decent (horse?)shit.

Just purchased Tame Impala's new album. Am very pleased it has met my expectations.
 
A few great psychedelic bands I like- Silvester Anfang (belgian free-folk/occult weirdness), Witchcraft (a swedish doomy band), Uffomamut (italian psychedelic metal) Ash Ra Tempel (yay for krautrock) and The Cosmic Jokers. Some great, strange music out there.
 
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