barafundle
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ever thought about a substitute like speed? just a thought and mail me any time-PMing dont work till youve posted so much and started so much threds i think
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NRG-1 - New Experience - Bad Side Effects After 3 Weeks Use
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i feel for all the ppl who have had trouble with nrg-1
i have had drug problems in the past and have poor self control mixed with low self esteem which is a bad combo.
i read about this rc and took the decision not to try it which i think was a good move for self preservation. im confident if i had used it i would of gone down exactly the same road as sourec.
i really hope sourcec (and other), you feel better soon and comend you for come forward with this info and also recognising the change you needed to make. how quick the problems start is scary but then maybe also a blessing because you weren't months into a problem.
take care all
i have had drug problems in the past and have poor self control mixed with low self esteem which is a bad combo.
i read about this rc and took the decision not to try it which i think was a good move for self preservation. im confident if i had used it i would of gone down exactly the same road as sourec.
i really hope sourcec (and other), you feel better soon and comend you for come forward with this info and also recognising the change you needed to make. how quick the problems start is scary but then maybe also a blessing because you weren't months into a problem.
take care all
Hmm I have a friend online who IVs nrg too. Not sure what dose he has but it doesnt seem to do him any good either. Sorry to hear you are struggling.
Its nice to see that someone knows the potency of NRG-1 though. Definately more like MDPV than anything else I can think of, but seriously, how many days up now and how much consumed???
Yeah Naphyrone is Naphyrone, but NRG-1 is a mix I believe of Naphyrone and other dodgy chems not yet disclosed - and that non-disclosure bollocks on new RCs does my head in - how irresponsible to sell something to someone and not tell them what it is.
Anyway little update on my situ, which unfortunately hasnt changed, I should channge the title to whatever it is... 6/7 weeks??
Anyway I'm still taking it, some of the effects have kind of levelled out a bit, but some new ones have appeared which resulted in admittance to A&E last week.
I had been solidly up for 4 days, had a line and BAM it kinda went to my head and resulted in my head emitting a strange fizzing noise. It made my legs instantly feel like every single vein was going to explode. Then it went to my arms and hands, same effect. Then it hit what I think was my lungs and thats when i got a friend to drive me to hospital. Severe cramp across the chest like all my organs behind my ribs were expanding and fighting for space.
Tests came back all ok, so no major damage done.
However the effects were very scary. At the time. Ofcourse its all ok today.
Nice drug aint it
[edit] by the way, was in A&E for a good 7-8 hours, and it took about 4 hours for the effects to wear off and for me to start feeling as close to normal as I was ever gonna get
i had to join this forum after reading this thread a few weeks ago, how thick are you ? you experienced bad side effects after taking this chemical almost straight away and you are still taking it 6-7 weeks later when you have already been to hospital because of it, im taking it that you dont work if you are able to be in such a state for so many weeks so where are you getting the money from to fund your life ? im sorry i just cant get my head around why anyone would want to continue to destroy there body like this
think thats a bit uncalled for and not very constructive. calling someone thick doesnt help with addiction and reliance problems in any way.
xaenima
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So I assume you're now on the sick?
I'm surprised most vendors are still selling this shit. Just goes to show how fucking evil they are.
I am trying to make sense of the tragedy of the death of my 25 year old son two days ago and found this thread when I searched for NRG 1 effects. The content of the thread has helped me understand a little better what he may have been experiencing, and whilst we do not know absolutely that the cause of hs death was over-use of NRG 1 and I do not want to cause anxiety, I feel that I should post.
My son had mental health problems probably caused by an over-use of pshycho-active drugs when we was a teenager. Low self control and low self esteem were certainly evident and for a few years, under the guidance of a healer, his paranoia and "psychotic delusions"-- to him these delusions were reality and I am not sure that I am confident enough to label them as delsusions even now-- were having a less profound effect on him. He largely stayed clear of drugs, both illegal and legal, for three or four year maybe, but probably drank too much alcohol.
I am not sure exactly when he started to buy and use NRG1 but I think it was no more than five weeks ago, after the death of his grandmother, with whom he was very close.
He lived with his mother and her husband and they reported to me that he was not sleeping, not eating and his bahaviour was becoming increasingly bizarre. He communicated much less with me than normal but when he did, he gave the impression that he was feeling invincible. He sounded happy (which sadly was unusual). It was impossible to tell how much he was taking-- but knowing him, it was quite a lot.
He died on Thursday very shortly after being admitted to hospital through having trouble with breathing
His use of NRG1 had probably been excessive for around four weeks in all, with only a few days gap around his grandmother's funeral when he slept a great deal.
I am devastated by losing him and the only thing we know for sure is that the autopsy indicated that a head injury incurred perhaps when he had fallen over earlier in the day was superficial and not the cause of his death, which we will know only when the toxicology reports are back in ten days or so.
However, I am even more sure after reading this thread his death at a tragically young age was directly or indirectly caused by his use of NRG1. He had been a large user of various illegal drugs a few years before and had a strong physical constitution, if very fragile metal health. He would have read forums like this but he could not or would not control his use of this drug, we believe.
Rest in peace, son, and anybody who reads this, please take care. Your life is precious not just to you but the people who know and love you.
My son had mental health problems probably caused by an over-use of pshycho-active drugs when we was a teenager. Low self control and low self esteem were certainly evident and for a few years, under the guidance of a healer, his paranoia and "psychotic delusions"-- to him these delusions were reality and I am not sure that I am confident enough to label them as delsusions even now-- were having a less profound effect on him. He largely stayed clear of drugs, both illegal and legal, for three or four year maybe, but probably drank too much alcohol.
I am not sure exactly when he started to buy and use NRG1 but I think it was no more than five weeks ago, after the death of his grandmother, with whom he was very close.
He lived with his mother and her husband and they reported to me that he was not sleeping, not eating and his bahaviour was becoming increasingly bizarre. He communicated much less with me than normal but when he did, he gave the impression that he was feeling invincible. He sounded happy (which sadly was unusual). It was impossible to tell how much he was taking-- but knowing him, it was quite a lot.
He died on Thursday very shortly after being admitted to hospital through having trouble with breathing
His use of NRG1 had probably been excessive for around four weeks in all, with only a few days gap around his grandmother's funeral when he slept a great deal.
I am devastated by losing him and the only thing we know for sure is that the autopsy indicated that a head injury incurred perhaps when he had fallen over earlier in the day was superficial and not the cause of his death, which we will know only when the toxicology reports are back in ten days or so.
However, I am even more sure after reading this thread his death at a tragically young age was directly or indirectly caused by his use of NRG1. He had been a large user of various illegal drugs a few years before and had a strong physical constitution, if very fragile metal health. He would have read forums like this but he could not or would not control his use of this drug, we believe.
Rest in peace, son, and anybody who reads this, please take care. Your life is precious not just to you but the people who know and love you.
sourcec
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Then you class 'every' drug user/addict like this??
Let me guess, alcoholics, fat people and smokers are a waste of NHS resources as well?
While we're on the subject lets have a pop at people who cause themselves injury by 'choosing' to play certain sports etc as well.
Your statement is narrowminded of individual situations - so unless you are treat your body like a temple you have no place to judge.
sourcec
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TH1,
I'm very sorry to hear of what has happened to your son, yourself and your family. If anything your post has put things more into perspective.
We tend to go on a self-obsessed joy ride sometimes and forget about the other people in our lives and how much we are hurting them.
Over the last few days I have been trying to ease off a bit and eat & sleep more, I'm feeling a little bit more with it than I have of late, which bodes well, and I'm also getting support from a friend who luckily, after all this, is still around.
Once again, TH1, I'm very sorry for your loss.
I'm very sorry to hear of what has happened to your son, yourself and your family. If anything your post has put things more into perspective.
We tend to go on a self-obsessed joy ride sometimes and forget about the other people in our lives and how much we are hurting them.
Over the last few days I have been trying to ease off a bit and eat & sleep more, I'm feeling a little bit more with it than I have of late, which bodes well, and I'm also getting support from a friend who luckily, after all this, is still around.
Once again, TH1, I'm very sorry for your loss.
Pvdtheking
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my xp with nrg-1
well i was reading your xp with said compound and thought i would add mine here also....im a noob to this so forgive the crudeness but here goes...
my regular coke dealer said about having nrg-1 in stock and as a replacement for meph, and did i want to buy some. Now being a tight wad i declined to buy from him and bought 10 grams online for the price he was charging for 4! (1st mistake lol)
i dont own any scales so decided to sniff the 1st tester off a key, i havent a clue how much but noticed the effects within 15 mins, head rush....but nothing much else. Anyhow to cut a long story short i proceeded with keys until a whole gram had gone, i didnt get anywhere near as high as meph/mdma etc so was bitterly dissappointed......but it made me determined to try again (note 2nd mistake). i had no trouble sleeping as i always have a supply of tamazis handy for such drugs that deprive you of sleep.
After my first time with nrg i heard u could bomb the stuff also, so at a party i hatched the plan (while drunk) of 2 keys while bombing a load aswell......this gave better results and i must say i was totally trashed (in a good way hehe) effects similar to meph/speed and i had a whale of a time. (done 2g in alltogether) Note i did get better results from bombing than sniffing, much better.
I carried on taking the stuff till the 10g was all gone, over the course of 2 weeks and i noticed the following:
Increased heart rate
Anxiety
Paranioa!!!!!
Hearing voices, doors close etc
Seeing things that arent there
now i can handle the 1st 2 but the paranioa and hearing shit happen, like my baby girl crying for a bottle......but when i get there is sound asleep is not on. Various times i 'heard' my girlfriend shouting of me, only for her to look at me like im a complete tit when i ask what she wanted.
I also started seeing things, which again wasnt pleasent, especially at work.....see people talking about you when no-one is there etc you get the idea.
These symptoms have thankfully all disappeared i no longer hear things or see things that are not there!! it was that bad i thought about going the quacks but i rought through.
I wont say ill never take the stuff again, but if i do it wont be in the quantities i did, maybe a gram a night and none again for a while as i believe it was the amount i took that messed me up.
Oh also when i was on the stuff i noticed when i urinated it was always deep yellow....as tho it was robbing my body of water so anyone who does take it id advise to drink lots of water.....and dont take it regularly, only at weekends leave the week to recover as i should have.
well i was reading your xp with said compound and thought i would add mine here also....im a noob to this so forgive the crudeness but here goes...
my regular coke dealer said about having nrg-1 in stock and as a replacement for meph, and did i want to buy some. Now being a tight wad i declined to buy from him and bought 10 grams online for the price he was charging for 4! (1st mistake lol)
i dont own any scales so decided to sniff the 1st tester off a key, i havent a clue how much but noticed the effects within 15 mins, head rush....but nothing much else. Anyhow to cut a long story short i proceeded with keys until a whole gram had gone, i didnt get anywhere near as high as meph/mdma etc so was bitterly dissappointed......but it made me determined to try again (note 2nd mistake). i had no trouble sleeping as i always have a supply of tamazis handy for such drugs that deprive you of sleep.
After my first time with nrg i heard u could bomb the stuff also, so at a party i hatched the plan (while drunk) of 2 keys while bombing a load aswell......this gave better results and i must say i was totally trashed (in a good way hehe) effects similar to meph/speed and i had a whale of a time. (done 2g in alltogether) Note i did get better results from bombing than sniffing, much better.
I carried on taking the stuff till the 10g was all gone, over the course of 2 weeks and i noticed the following:
Increased heart rate
Anxiety
Paranioa!!!!!
Hearing voices, doors close etc
Seeing things that arent there
now i can handle the 1st 2 but the paranioa and hearing shit happen, like my baby girl crying for a bottle......but when i get there is sound asleep is not on. Various times i 'heard' my girlfriend shouting of me, only for her to look at me like im a complete tit when i ask what she wanted.
I also started seeing things, which again wasnt pleasent, especially at work.....see people talking about you when no-one is there etc you get the idea.
These symptoms have thankfully all disappeared i no longer hear things or see things that are not there!! it was that bad i thought about going the quacks but i rought through.
I wont say ill never take the stuff again, but if i do it wont be in the quantities i did, maybe a gram a night and none again for a while as i believe it was the amount i took that messed me up.
Oh also when i was on the stuff i noticed when i urinated it was always deep yellow....as tho it was robbing my body of water so anyone who does take it id advise to drink lots of water.....and dont take it regularly, only at weekends leave the week to recover as i should have.
what a poor comparison, do you get that list of side effects that you have mentioned after just 1 - 3 weeks when you drink alcohol or smoke or play sports for the first time ?? dont think so, you have told everyone about the dangers of this crap and thats great but to continue to use it after its put you in hospital is wrong on so many levels, think of your friends and family ffs and stop being selfish, lifes for living and believe me you aint living it
yes well aware of freedom of speach hence why i gave my opinion to what was said. i didnt censor it, i replied to it. i feel that your being nieve in the way your over simplyfyig the situation
naginnudej
Bluelighter
TH1, thank you very much for signing up to relate this story about your son. I am sending out love to you and your family.
It's important that people understand the potential dangers around this substance--as you acquire more information about the specific causes of your son's passing, would you be so kind as to inform us? Providing this information to the drug community may help save the lives of others.
I also recommend you submit it to Erowid with supporting details. They do best to get the word out. I can help you with that if necessary.
conorpacman
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My Experience
Last Thursday after some heavy drinking (I'm Irish) I decided to drop by one of the headshops in The City Center to buy a grinder.
I picked up a Grinder, Skins and also a bag of ' Pure NRG' (I later researched it to be the same as NRG 1)
Went for food with friend and dosed a small coin in a pizza joint. There was no burn and effects weren't felt immediately. It tasted quite like mephedrone.
After about 10 minutes I started feeling a sense of elation, Confidence was through the roof and I felt like talking to randomers. Which I did. These effects were short lived.
On the Bus on the way home, about 40 minutes after dosing I felt like Gurning. I repressed it and managed not to till I got of the bus with friend. Got home played some Xbox
About Hr1 min20 later I felt my chest clinch up and I started coughing, I had previously smoked nearly 20 cigarettes in Beer garden in town.
My chest felt very raw and all of a sudden I felt very vulnerable. My Eyes had dilated a little. My mood remained high even with all these early problems.
About 5 hours later and I'm still feeling the effects. This really does last, it is incredibly potent. Mood has dropped at this stage and I feel quite low. For some reason (almost opposite to drone) I had an elevated sex drive.
it's 1am friday morning. I try to go to sleep but can't. When I lie down it feels like my heart skips a beat so I jump up. This effect were a first for me, was quite scary for a while, mixed paranoia.
I lie in bed sometimes twitching but very alert.
The next morning was the toughest I've ever had. Irregular breathing and heartbeat on the way to work. My leg was tapping frantically and I was gurning really bad. Chest pains followed. Stomach was a little sore but I had a huge appetite, in fact eating was very good. Also hot tea I found to be very relaxing.
My brain was sore and I had a feeling of separation from what I was before I had taken the drug.
That night I slept, but symptoms I felt remained the next morning, They were faded but I still didn;t feel myself. he next day I felt fine,
My advice is to STAY AWAY FROM IT. But also not to worry if you have done a line recently. I think that everyones going to react differently to this one.
Peace.
Last Thursday after some heavy drinking (I'm Irish) I decided to drop by one of the headshops in The City Center to buy a grinder.
I picked up a Grinder, Skins and also a bag of ' Pure NRG' (I later researched it to be the same as NRG 1)
Went for food with friend and dosed a small coin in a pizza joint. There was no burn and effects weren't felt immediately. It tasted quite like mephedrone.
After about 10 minutes I started feeling a sense of elation, Confidence was through the roof and I felt like talking to randomers. Which I did. These effects were short lived.
On the Bus on the way home, about 40 minutes after dosing I felt like Gurning. I repressed it and managed not to till I got of the bus with friend. Got home played some Xbox
About Hr1 min20 later I felt my chest clinch up and I started coughing, I had previously smoked nearly 20 cigarettes in Beer garden in town.
My chest felt very raw and all of a sudden I felt very vulnerable. My Eyes had dilated a little. My mood remained high even with all these early problems.
About 5 hours later and I'm still feeling the effects. This really does last, it is incredibly potent. Mood has dropped at this stage and I feel quite low. For some reason (almost opposite to drone) I had an elevated sex drive.
it's 1am friday morning. I try to go to sleep but can't. When I lie down it feels like my heart skips a beat so I jump up. This effect were a first for me, was quite scary for a while, mixed paranoia.
I lie in bed sometimes twitching but very alert.
The next morning was the toughest I've ever had. Irregular breathing and heartbeat on the way to work. My leg was tapping frantically and I was gurning really bad. Chest pains followed. Stomach was a little sore but I had a huge appetite, in fact eating was very good. Also hot tea I found to be very relaxing.
My brain was sore and I had a feeling of separation from what I was before I had taken the drug.
That night I slept, but symptoms I felt remained the next morning, They were faded but I still didn;t feel myself. he next day I felt fine,
My advice is to STAY AWAY FROM IT. But also not to worry if you have done a line recently. I think that everyones going to react differently to this one.
Peace.
edited - < to TH1 i am very sorry for your loss, no words can come close. im afraid i posted this befor seeing your post i wouldnt have had i read it first. it was a few days since i saw this thread and i skiped to the end to add to it>
hi, i felt i should add to this thread. ive had mixed experiences and have mixed feelings about this nrg-1 stuff. having had good and bad.
all the negative effects, excluding the "we dont know what it is, its carcinogenic, it changes your DNA, etc" (im brushing over this NOT because its not a MASSIVE reason to stay clear but that personal accounts of horror stories come down to user-mistakes with this drug
ill keep it short. basicly we all know its not a m-cat replacement.
the most prominant dangers i think are with the way people take the drug. the dose is so small 0.03mg ish that you have to be a dab hand at being able to measure that, as well as knowledgeable enough not to just rack up a line like most people do with any other drug.
it can take some time to creep up on you. if you re dose waiting for it - because of the adrenaline it produces - you will end up in a state.
i saw a friend do this, a appropriate dose was given, she snorted it, didnt feel anything, and as everyone was wasted, promptly snorted 2 lines (perhaps 100mg in total) small, but non the less A MASSIVE OD for this drug. she hit the floor within seconds. fortunatly a few medical minded people were around, she was physically stable but remained in a state of psychosis for about 12hrs. - sever psychosis
the other dangers, ones ive had personally have been "binging" on it, on a occassion i went through .5 in about 72hrs, i was very dysphoric throughut, in bed, not able to sleep, redosing for no real reason to carry on.
like the original post here it resulted in weeks of severe depression, anxiety, 2 mental health act assessments as i felt suicidal and stupidly expressed it- resulting in the assessments. (i suffer anxiety anyway, it made it 10000000000000000x worse) nearly every organ in my body felt bruised, urine was dark in colour. i went through a stage of drinking 7-8pints of water a night even 4 weeks after as my body recovered. - however i have done this type of binge on nrg 1 twice, this was one out of 2. but it adds to a growing evidence of STAY AWAY ITS BAD NEWS reviews. (the other binge experience was fine, like any stim, exhausted lack of sleep and a bit shitty for a few days then fine) i also experienced tight breathing
in contrast - when used on a a single night, ive enjoyed it, pleasent stimulent with a bit of a harsh comedown. no problems
in my opinion if you have self control and can stick to small doses without binging, its ok (appart from the DNA changing, carcinogenic aspectects etc :S....... side arguemnt )
however big hugs to those that have had horrible experiences, i hope you get better and havnt done any serious harm, but i notice in each story 1) massive doses are taken 2) repeated doses over a perioid of time - which with any stimulent is going to cause dependency, cardiovascular problems, risk of strokes, organ failure, psychosis, deep depression etc. ANY stimulent will do this if u keep abusing it. any stimulent will kill you if you dont eat, sleep and keep going on it. the exception here is that the doses required are SO LOW i dont think any drug in history has come close to its potency. the danger is as equall for any other drug, the real danger is in the USE of it, which befor i get flammed, i belive it should be banned for alone. its too stong. if it should be sold, it should be sold cut. that sounds laughable. but for public safety it should be in my opinion waterd down to a degree that can be compared to other drugs. you wouldnt by a tea bag that gave you a cup of tea 100x stronger then anyother cup of tea.....and have to drink 10ml instead of a cup...(ok thats not the best comparison but you know what i mean)
blatently i think it should be on the "baned list" due to its dangers. or rather more to the point the danger caused by the people using it. i dont trust the m-cat generation, infact anyone without a medial/scientific background not to get drunk and "rack up a line" thinking its coke or something and bang!! there goes your heart. sanity. liver and kidneys.
we know even on bluelight how often people mess up their units and mismatch their .5 from a .005 etc all the time, can you trust jo-public or even worse drunk-chav not to do this? lethal.
it also seems particularly hazrdous to people with underlying mental health conditions or addiction problems. again the argument can be used that they should avoice ALL STIMULENTS as they will make these conditions worse. im really torn. i do belive in correct dose its not that evil, but i dont think its safe enough for the fact that people will miss use it.
it will be responsible for a lot of deaths, but the question is is it the drug thats killing people? or the way people use it?
with the growth in the RC market we may see more and more drugs that are active at extremly low doses, whos fault is it the user that doesnt do the research and abuses a substence that is a "RC" and not a "legal high" , or the drug? - i really dont know.
be safe xx
hi, i felt i should add to this thread. ive had mixed experiences and have mixed feelings about this nrg-1 stuff. having had good and bad.
all the negative effects, excluding the "we dont know what it is, its carcinogenic, it changes your DNA, etc" (im brushing over this NOT because its not a MASSIVE reason to stay clear but that personal accounts of horror stories come down to user-mistakes with this drug
ill keep it short. basicly we all know its not a m-cat replacement.
the most prominant dangers i think are with the way people take the drug. the dose is so small 0.03mg ish that you have to be a dab hand at being able to measure that, as well as knowledgeable enough not to just rack up a line like most people do with any other drug.
it can take some time to creep up on you. if you re dose waiting for it - because of the adrenaline it produces - you will end up in a state.
i saw a friend do this, a appropriate dose was given, she snorted it, didnt feel anything, and as everyone was wasted, promptly snorted 2 lines (perhaps 100mg in total) small, but non the less A MASSIVE OD for this drug. she hit the floor within seconds. fortunatly a few medical minded people were around, she was physically stable but remained in a state of psychosis for about 12hrs. - sever psychosis
the other dangers, ones ive had personally have been "binging" on it, on a occassion i went through .5 in about 72hrs, i was very dysphoric throughut, in bed, not able to sleep, redosing for no real reason to carry on.
like the original post here it resulted in weeks of severe depression, anxiety, 2 mental health act assessments as i felt suicidal and stupidly expressed it- resulting in the assessments. (i suffer anxiety anyway, it made it 10000000000000000x worse) nearly every organ in my body felt bruised, urine was dark in colour. i went through a stage of drinking 7-8pints of water a night even 4 weeks after as my body recovered. - however i have done this type of binge on nrg 1 twice, this was one out of 2. but it adds to a growing evidence of STAY AWAY ITS BAD NEWS reviews. (the other binge experience was fine, like any stim, exhausted lack of sleep and a bit shitty for a few days then fine) i also experienced tight breathing
in contrast - when used on a a single night, ive enjoyed it, pleasent stimulent with a bit of a harsh comedown. no problems
in my opinion if you have self control and can stick to small doses without binging, its ok (appart from the DNA changing, carcinogenic aspectects etc :S....... side arguemnt )
however big hugs to those that have had horrible experiences, i hope you get better and havnt done any serious harm, but i notice in each story 1) massive doses are taken 2) repeated doses over a perioid of time - which with any stimulent is going to cause dependency, cardiovascular problems, risk of strokes, organ failure, psychosis, deep depression etc. ANY stimulent will do this if u keep abusing it. any stimulent will kill you if you dont eat, sleep and keep going on it. the exception here is that the doses required are SO LOW i dont think any drug in history has come close to its potency. the danger is as equall for any other drug, the real danger is in the USE of it, which befor i get flammed, i belive it should be banned for alone. its too stong. if it should be sold, it should be sold cut. that sounds laughable. but for public safety it should be in my opinion waterd down to a degree that can be compared to other drugs. you wouldnt by a tea bag that gave you a cup of tea 100x stronger then anyother cup of tea.....and have to drink 10ml instead of a cup...(ok thats not the best comparison but you know what i mean)
blatently i think it should be on the "baned list" due to its dangers. or rather more to the point the danger caused by the people using it. i dont trust the m-cat generation, infact anyone without a medial/scientific background not to get drunk and "rack up a line" thinking its coke or something and bang!! there goes your heart. sanity. liver and kidneys.
we know even on bluelight how often people mess up their units and mismatch their .5 from a .005 etc all the time, can you trust jo-public or even worse drunk-chav not to do this? lethal.
it also seems particularly hazrdous to people with underlying mental health conditions or addiction problems. again the argument can be used that they should avoice ALL STIMULENTS as they will make these conditions worse. im really torn. i do belive in correct dose its not that evil, but i dont think its safe enough for the fact that people will miss use it.
it will be responsible for a lot of deaths, but the question is is it the drug thats killing people? or the way people use it?
with the growth in the RC market we may see more and more drugs that are active at extremly low doses, whos fault is it the user that doesnt do the research and abuses a substence that is a "RC" and not a "legal high" , or the drug? - i really dont know.
be safe xx
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NRG-1 New Experience
After having a pretty good time with mephedrone last year was very disappointed when it was made illegal, and was rather excited when I got an email from my past internet supplier (under a new name) saying he had new plant feeder. Hoping it was similar to meph, I ordered 2 gs of NRG-1 and got excited about it turning up, but have now read all these posts and I am scared to even try it! (esp in regards to the liver wrecking potential)
I am only a recreational drug user (usually do pills, coke, mdma but did a lot of plant food on weekends when it was about) so do not think I would get addicted to it on a daily basis...
Should I try it when it turns up or is it truly not worth it for a bit of a one off or now and again buzz? Is it best to bomb it or snort it (I found the meph was good both ways but freekin killed your nose to snort and blocked the hell out if it after a decent amount)
Opinions please
After having a pretty good time with mephedrone last year was very disappointed when it was made illegal, and was rather excited when I got an email from my past internet supplier (under a new name) saying he had new plant feeder. Hoping it was similar to meph, I ordered 2 gs of NRG-1 and got excited about it turning up, but have now read all these posts and I am scared to even try it! (esp in regards to the liver wrecking potential)
I am only a recreational drug user (usually do pills, coke, mdma but did a lot of plant food on weekends when it was about) so do not think I would get addicted to it on a daily basis...
Should I try it when it turns up or is it truly not worth it for a bit of a one off or now and again buzz? Is it best to bomb it or snort it (I found the meph was good both ways but freekin killed your nose to snort and blocked the hell out if it after a decent amount)
Opinions please
kinda reminds me of my first 100gr binge on phenibut, the amazing feelings were all there, but the side effects were pilingt up and piling up but redosing kept them at bay, and unfortunately i had to live thru ALL the side effects over the course of a WEEK or more of not dosing
(got to a point where nothing would keep the nightmares and side effects at bay even more phenibut, valium, xanax, only lots of oxy.
Ive heard enough of this naphyrone to not ever try it, and ive tried everything i can get my hands on in 15 years. bad shit. quit while your still alive and dont kill yourself when you come down hard, consider a stay in emergency with your own stash of benzoes and whatever else you take.
REmember when everyone thought 1,4 Butanediol was not addictive in the beginning? There were numerous deaths reported a year or two later from the withdrawal. If you went to hospital, you were in for 2 weeks of hell from severe withdrawals, but if you just tapered off slowly over a couple of days and used some diazepam, it was a walk in the park. so sometimes you gotta take the proffessional help and the help thats availiable from people whove done it on the internet. God, Man, i hope nothing full on like permanent brain frying and psychosis or severe depression and anxiety are in store for you.
Ive done this before with piperazines (most of them) and its never fun coming down from ANY stimulant binge. Naph just sounds evil to me.
God be with you and good luck, get all your good friends around you and EAT WELL when you can. Vitamins, drink water and EXERCISE even if its just a walk in the morning to balance the neurotransmitters. lying in bed all day will just add to the hopeless feelings.
give your body what it needs, and research what other people have done when theyve done what youve just done to get there lifes back to baseline.
(got to a point where nothing would keep the nightmares and side effects at bay even more phenibut, valium, xanax, only lots of oxy.
Ive heard enough of this naphyrone to not ever try it, and ive tried everything i can get my hands on in 15 years. bad shit. quit while your still alive and dont kill yourself when you come down hard, consider a stay in emergency with your own stash of benzoes and whatever else you take.
REmember when everyone thought 1,4 Butanediol was not addictive in the beginning? There were numerous deaths reported a year or two later from the withdrawal. If you went to hospital, you were in for 2 weeks of hell from severe withdrawals, but if you just tapered off slowly over a couple of days and used some diazepam, it was a walk in the park. so sometimes you gotta take the proffessional help and the help thats availiable from people whove done it on the internet. God, Man, i hope nothing full on like permanent brain frying and psychosis or severe depression and anxiety are in store for you.
Ive done this before with piperazines (most of them) and its never fun coming down from ANY stimulant binge. Naph just sounds evil to me.
God be with you and good luck, get all your good friends around you and EAT WELL when you can. Vitamins, drink water and EXERCISE even if its just a walk in the morning to balance the neurotransmitters. lying in bed all day will just add to the hopeless feelings.
give your body what it needs, and research what other people have done when theyve done what youve just done to get there lifes back to baseline.
After having a pretty good time with mephedrone last year was very disappointed when it was made illegal, and was rather excited when I got an email from my past internet supplier (under a new name) saying he had new plant feeder. Hoping it was similar to meph, I ordered 2 gs of NRG-1 and got excited about it turning up, but have now read all these posts and I am scared to even try it! (esp in regards to the liver wrecking potential)
I am only a recreational drug user (usually do pills, coke, mdma but did a lot of plant food on weekends when it was about) so do not think I would get addicted to it on a daily basis...
Should I try it when it turns up or is it truly not worth it for a bit of a one off or now and again buzz? Is it best to bomb it or snort it (I found the meph was good both ways but freekin killed your nose to snort and blocked the hell out if it after a decent amount)
Opinions please
if you can have self control not to redose and do a single dose. i cant see you having a problem.. personally i like to sniff it, about 30-50mgs. it doesnt burn much, but expect it not to hit you for 20min. this is where some people get in trouble. they redose then BAM it hits u hard. expect to feel like ur on cheap whizz and last about 8hrs max, for me its more like 3hrs tho.. if u redose while on it, the arenaline it kicks out will kick in and youl go from "ok" to "agitated" which isnt nice. ive never tried it "raving" only at home with friends. weve had a couple really good nights on it, but ive had some bad bad comedowns.
im not sure if i can comment on whether its worth it. i know ill get it again at some stage,i was expecting it today, but vendors are suddenly all out of stock. i would never buy more then a .5g because i know id binge on it. and it really doest send u mental if u go to far. sniffling m-cat btw EEWWW bad memories of a lost love! i miss it too!
This is a remarkable forum and I just wish my son had seen it.... perhaps he did, I don't know. I will post again when we have more understanding of what happened. It does appear that his usage was very high in the four weeks leading to his death.
Annaminx, I am pleased you posted and Even had you already seen my post then I would have encouraged you to do so. It is not my motivation to cause alarm or anxiety, nor to gain sympathy (that is however deeply appreciated), simply to tell you what I know about this drug and the effect on my son. I am very impressed by the culture of this site... and the care you show others with your candour and compassion.
Please take care.
Annaminx, I am pleased you posted and Even had you already seen my post then I would have encouraged you to do so. It is not my motivation to cause alarm or anxiety, nor to gain sympathy (that is however deeply appreciated), simply to tell you what I know about this drug and the effect on my son. I am very impressed by the culture of this site... and the care you show others with your candour and compassion.
Please take care.