People say MDMA isn't habit forming.

[VincentOnE]

But what exactly is habit forming?

Marijuanna isn't habit forming, but (insert big percentage here to proove my point) of teenagers who enjoy smoking pot smoke on a weekly basis.


Or, in MDMA's case, people say its not addictive. But because my first time was so life changing and amazing, I continued to do it because I fell in love with the feeling and experience, as many do.

usually to the point where someone would come on bluelight to learn that they've terribly abused because they liked it so much.

People say MDMA isn't habit forming, but I think it's too amazing to not be addictive.
to me, it's a responsible habit. But still a two- to three month habit. Still a habit

I'm really high right now.

 

[smellytim]

xxx

 

[rincewindrocks]

MDMA can definitely be habit forming. its extremely psychologically addictive, as evidenced by the huge number of "ive lost the magic because ive been doing 5+ pills every weekend for the past six months" threads in this forum

 

[RGB]

I'm confused by your use of the term "habit-forming" versus "addictive" -- you make them sound like they're the same thing. I think both MDMA and marijuana are habit-forming, and I haven't heard anyone say that they're not. Anything that's pleasurable can be considered habit-forming, assuming that it can be repeated frequently enough to make it habitual.

The difference between "habit-forming" and "addictive" is a matter of some contention, but I personally consider substances with severe withdrawal symptoms or whose use makes it difficult to be functional (a relative term, I realize) as "addictive". Substances which are tempting to use frequently, but aren't pursued to the exclusion of other important things in one's life are simply "habit-forming".

Again, there's a lot of vagueness in that statement. I think the litmus test is whether you can do without the thing...if it takes a monumental effort, it's probably addictive.

EDIT: I like smellytim's concept of "addiction potential", because it introduces the person's disposition into the equation. I'm sure we all know people who can get addicted to anything (those with so-called "addictive personalities"), and others who can try crack cocaine and shrug it off without forming an addiction. Addiction is a personal problem, and I think it can only be done justice by being addressed on a case-by-case basis. Nevertheless, we can pull some common trends out of how the majority reacts. By that standard, I think MDMA and weed fall on the "less than addictive" side of the spectrum.

 

[Pinkpuff]

Yea e is not physically addictive, but it can be mentally addictive. I never thought I was "addicted" to it, but then I realized that I just can't go longer than ~2 months without doing it, so in my opinion I am technically addicted to doing it once a month or so. Even though I'm not craving every day of my life, I think about it a lot and always plan to roll once a month at a rave (even though I sober rave too)... To me that is a habit, therefore to me it is habit-forming. Lol. So yea, what you said - it's still a habit regardless if you choose to do it pretty frequently, even if you're not abusing it.

 

[LSDMDMA&AMP]

eh. now given, i dont have a consistant source of pills, not close, i havent been able to get shit for a while in terms of pills, but
amphetamine always made me want more and want to repeat the experience, while MDMA produced none of that, i had no desire to roll often, as in there was no nagging moremoremore feeling. id say non habit forming as well, at least for me.

 

[Bsiren]

MDMA certainly can become an important ritual in ones life, and though you may not do it multiple times a day like drinking or some other drugs because of it's unique nature, it's still something a LOT of users crave. Ultimately, I think if you're unable to be "in control" and make your own decisions about a drug and stick to them, you have formed some sort of a "habit" or unhealthy relationship.

I think the idea that a drug isn't "habit forming" simply because someone isn't constantly on it, day after day, is incorrect. You can't use MDMA in a constant stream for too long and still get the same effects- that's part of the unique nature of MDMA.

 

[I NUK3D U]

+1 for addiction being different from dependance, itself being different from compulsion.

I've never heard MDMA referred to as not 'habit forming'- that's ridiculous.

Anything in our lifes that brings us pleasure has the strong potential to become a 'habit'. I eat alot because I like food. I have an eating habit (as an example; I'm normally too high to eat )

 

[smellytim]

xxx

 

[Dahli]

Tylenol is habit forming. I for one have a habit of taking it every time my head hurts.
Caffeine is habit forming. A huuuuge percentage of people all over the world don't consider themselves awake on any given morning without having coffee.
Just about anything can be habit forming.

As for it being addictive... like everyone else has said, there's a difference between physical addiction and mental addiction, and there is a difference between use and abuse. MDMA may not be physically addictive, which is what most people mean when they make statements like "You can't get addicted to E like you can to heroin." But I think anyone who has tried MDMA can agree that there is a potential for it to be mentally addictive, even if the need to do it is only once a year. And then use and abuse is solely dependent on the user and either their level of knowledge of the drug in question and/or their choice to use it responsibly.

 

[VincentOnE]

MDMA certainly can become an important ritual in ones life, and though you may not do it multiple times a day like drinking or some other drugs because of it's unique nature, it's still something a LOT of users crave. Ultimately, I think if you're unable to be "in control" and make your own decisions about a drug and stick to them, you have formed some sort of a "habit" or unhealthy relationship.

I think the idea that a drug isn't "habit forming" simply because someone isn't constantly on it, day after day, is incorrect. You can't use MDMA in a constant stream for too long and still get the same effects- that's part of the unique nature of MDMA.

This.

anytime you repeat an action enough times it becomes a habit. anything that feels good or gives pleasure will invariably be habit forming.

some drugs are simply more or less prone to cause addictions. they have different addiction potentials. though not everyone gets addicted to them, they are potentially more addiction forming. the action is more likely to be repeated.

MDMA's addiction potential is similar to other psychedelic drugs, or weed. Though they can cause addiction, and certainly form habits, they are easier to withdraw from or stop using then drugs with a higher addiction potential.

it isnt so much related to the high of the drug as it is related to the specific drugs pharmacology and effects on the brain.

i could probably try to go into more detail but im coming close to verging on bullshit so im sure someone with some sort of degree could take over here.

just because something is a habit doesnt mean its an addiction. I do feel comfortable in comparing the differences between a healthy and unhealthy drug relationship if someone wants to read it.

This,

Tylenol is habit forming. I for one have a habit of taking it every time my head hurts.
Caffeine is habit forming. A huuuuge percentage of people all over the world don't consider themselves awake on any given morning without having coffee.
Just about anything can be habit forming.

As for it being addictive... like everyone else has said, there's a difference between physical addiction and mental addiction, and there is a difference between use and abuse. MDMA may not be physically addictive, which is what most people mean when they make statements like "You can't get addicted to E like you can to heroin." But I think anyone who has tried MDMA can agree that there is a potential for it to be mentally addictive, even if the need to do it is only once a year. And then use and abuse is solely dependent on the user and either their level of knowledge of the drug in question and/or their choice to use it responsibly.

And this.

 

[phatass]

its psychologicaly addictive... but def not physically addictive... so yes it is "habit forming", but for example in my case i went from taking pills/mdma several times a weak to taking MDMA once every 3 or 4 months, and didn't feel any need to take it more often...

same with weed, it made me paranoid so i took a 2 year break after 7 years of daily smoking and felt no withdrawl symptoms...

so yes these substances are habit forming, but theyre very easy to stop if you choose to do so

 

[naughtie]

^ plus 1

 

[LSDMDMA&AMP]

well..id say after using it ive desired to repeat the experience, but nothing close to the amphetamine cravings i get sometimes from my small "habit". i'm going to go with essentially nonaddictive, IMO.

 

[TWISTEDmind]

i was addicted to this for a year because it is so amazing but eventually the lows are so bad i just couldnt deal with it anymore and stopped

 

[omfgiloveit]

i think its very psychologicaly addictive. I fell in love with the feeling so much that i started doing it a few times a week and didnt get much of a loss of magic or side effects besides the harsh come downs. However, it got to a point where comedowns just got really bad but i still have strong craves to do it a few times a month now.

 

[jamesmartin]

It's not really habit forming or addictive if your someone who actually knows/cares about the effects of MDMA abuse.


Once I found out about making MDMA a habit or doing it often can have serious implications on your health , I realized I ONLY want to do it max-once a month

 

[IheartMaryJane]

theoretically, anything can be habit forming/addictive

 

[narky1]

I second IheartMaryjane

Everything is habit forming it depends on what kind of personality you got, if you like something a lot and you live to satisfy your pleasures then dunkin donuts will become habit forming.........take me classic addictive personality, If I smoke I smoke 40 cigarettes a day, when I take coke I do enough for ten, when I smoke crack a smoke a quart, when I take a pill I take 10 , If I drink Idrink half to 1 litre of neat scotch, when I eat I can polish off enough for 3 people, and when It comes to sex lets not even go there..........however my redeeming quality is I can abstain if you offer me a gram of coke I´ll pass because I need 4g to make it worth my while, if you offer me a 1 drink in a bar I´ll drink orange juice..........ITS ALL DOWN TO YOUR PERSONALITY TYPE nothing more, for me small doses of anything are a pricktease I need excess to enjoy otherwise I cant be bothered ,Iam all or nothing, goodluck!!

 

[Alprazolam8129]

yes...it is very habit forming, i went on a 3 week ecstasy binge.
I went through about 60 pills in 3 weeks just because i loved the feeling, the amazing excitement it gave me, the speedy loved up feeling, the feeling that i could conquer anything, the momentum to do everything. I jumped out of my friends two story window to go party while on ecstasy; the only problem was that i dropped the blunt on the roof and the cat got out and stranded on the roof..
But all in all ecstasy is very habit forming, once you drop; you'll never want the feeling to stop.