Friend Suddenly Schizophrenic?

kong

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After a few months of zero contact I reconnected with a good friend of mine. She is exhibiting signs of extreme delusion, confusing what to me seem to be easily explainable tough breaks with a conspiracy against her.

This all centers around her mother who cut herself off from the person in question, although her rational explaining this action brings together an extremely wide, creative, and disparate set of circumstances which to the outside observer are completely unrelated.

I feel for her. She has been mistreated without a doubt. I fear her reactions to this mistreatment are in part creating and prolonging it. As I haven't spent time with her over the last few months I can't tell if her paranoia is the cause or a symptom of her being cut off from family support. Without going into details the support of her family is reasonable, expected, and deserved without question.

Her family lives a few hundred miles away.

She has a history of moderate drinking, marijuana usage (light), infrequent mushroom trips (once every other year), and as of late a prescription for amphetamines which she no longer takes.

She failed her last classes as she was afraid to attend classes. Several reasons were cited, all of which point to delusions and paranoia.

The delusions are extreme and intricate. It appears she has spent the last couple months researching a wide variety of topics in enough depth to tie them together is a vast conspiracy that is threatening her and the cause of her breakup with her parents.

I'm pretty good at coming up with bullshit (for fun). I can't come close to replicating the stories I just heard. Mind you they aren't lies, she fully believes what she is saying. What makes me think schizophrenia is how she constantly mentions communications between herself and her friends/parents that do not seem plausible. She mentioned some communications between me and her over the last couple months that never took place. As high as I am I am still absolutely sure of this as the communications were supposedly conducted over email and I never delete emails in my clean addresses (which are the only ones she knows).

My take: her significant other, upset about her infrequent drug use and moderate drinking informed her parents who then decided to cut her off. They are loaded and basically put her in an expensive apartment and paid her tuition, so to cut her off without warning is fucked.

My question:

What can I do? She didn't look like she was on or had been on amphetamines recently so I don't think this is a result of recent amphetamines psychosis (I wish it was, I'd feed her enough benzos for the next month to kill any speed issues for good).

Her rent is coming due and she is talking about having to go out on the street. She has relationships with two guys, but they both seem like assholes who are using her. They are both successful and well integrated into society so for her to be with either isn't the end of the world and maybe what she wants although neither seem to be stepping up to help her through this to my standards.

I feel if you are in a relationship with someone who should be there no matter what or you should end it. Giving someone in need a few hundred here and there and being on and off again is despicable. If your significant other is hungry, a bit crazy, and cannot afford her rent she should be living in your house eating your food and sharing what you have /end rant.

I'm a platonic friend, I want to help her without any appearances of sexual motivation (I'm a guy). I've got plenty of money at the moment. I'm trying to figure out what I should do. She doesn't want charity. Either way I won't let her live on the street obviously. I'm torn because I think she needs professional help, but on the other hand from seeing what that type of "help" has done to some of my friends I will do anything keep her from being subjected to "state sponsored treatment."

I'm almost about the ask my parents to take her in as they are mentally equipped to handle the situation in a positive way. I don't think she needs a bunch of drugs. She needs a secure living environment, a fridge full of food, place to study, gas money etc..

She really wants to work-shes attractive, outgoing, and has a great resume so maybe that will work everything out. I'm going to do everything I can to get her a job. Living expenses are low in my neck of the woods.

Thanks for reading, any advice is appreciated.
 
Wow. You just described me.

"what to me seem to be easily explainable tough breaks with a conspiracy against her."

"an extremely wide, creative, and disparate set of circumstances which to the outside observer are completely unrelated. "

Scary.
 
if she is schizo, shes had always been, it just never had the chance to turn on. she sounds the paranoid type, but the sooner she can admit , accept , and start finding a psych she likes and knows she must take the medicine!. if she is diagnosed with a schizo disorder the meds and a familiar psych is what's most necessary at the end of a bad day.

see two or maybe three put psychiatrists-psychologists

finding a creative outlet is also very important. there is a powerfull unique off the charts mind in there, accepting treating and learning how to direct correctly that way of thinking/seeing things is important, and special. you cannot control it all the time, and people will develope and exhibit symptoms to different degrees, in different ways.

its a rabbit chase... i would advise only to get close enough for you to be able to remove your self from the situation mentally and physically with peace of mind knowing that this; or schizophrenia rather is nothing you or any one can control when it is out in full detail.

i myself have schizoeffective-bi polar, the true full on psychotic episodes have been spaced years apart from each other, i exhibit subtle symptoms daily, as well as halucinate visual and audio, but ive learned to live with it. now dissociation, time lapsing, dream states, and confusing a week ago or part of a dream, as ten minutes ago starts to disturb me, i know then that all bets may be off soon and start preparing, and, warning the wife! i don't become the paranoid type really, but will develop agoraphobia, become very untrusting, catatonic, and rapid cycling mixed states.

that's a situation for a hospital environment...

keep stimulants, and psychedelics far far away, , medical marijuana really gave me a much needed third person perspective on things at times-took me from trying not to pull my hair screaming bloody murder, or starting expressionless and with our moving for hours/days. that was all part of a three month lapse, some stay there, loved ones in the wake really get hurt because they actually see and know what's occurring, which is a scary deteriation that only a medical professional can subdue.

get her engaged if she seems willing, see that she wants to help, she that she sees multiple doctors so she can find someone she is no comfortable with and so that there is more to validate her behavior thought s or irrational distributing worries are simply the side erects of a disease.
 
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Wow. You just described me.

"what to me seem to be easily explainable tough breaks with a conspiracy against her."

"an extremely wide, creative, and disparate set of circumstances which to the outside observer are completely unrelated. "

Scary.

I am in mississauga ontario as we speak.... interesting that someone from this forum would live so close. (sauga is a big place). Oh the world and its intricacies.


Sorry about how offtopic this is
 
How old is she, most mental illness (including addiction) begin to manifest in the early 20s.

Sounds like she may have a personality disorder, did she experience more trauma during her childhood then usual?
 
^Late twenties. I'm not aware of any childhood trauma or past mental illness of any kind.
 
It is common for schizopherenia to develop in late twenties - early thirties.. Keep in mind that depression can also cause delusions. (psychotic depression)
 
or for myself and a couple of people I knew it took drugs, usually amphetamines, or like myself a casual dose of lsd, mushies, or most any random psychedelic that happen to set it off, and yes in ones 20's or 30's most often.

i have a non blood related relative who was/is extremely successful, in his late 40's who out of know where went into psychosis that escalated for months, until he was finally admited, diagnosed, and treated for schizoeffective.

he came back to eventually on the meds, and then did what most people do at first, and that think every thing is fine and stop taking them... doing that, ceasing anti psychotics is going to make anyone absolutely wild.
 
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My uncle is a paranoid schizo and trust me there is nothing you can do short of forcing her into a psych ward if she tries to kill herself or harm someone else. Drug use, even drugs like paxil can bring it on, and drugs like mushrooms and amphetamines are just asking for it if your a predisposed schizo.
 
My brother left home when he was 21. He was doing a ton of acid and became a paranoid schizophrenic. OP you are an awesome friend for caring so much. I have so few memories of my brother. He is still alive... but no one has heard from him in the near 14 years he has been gone and refuses to accept ANY kind of contact from the family(no one knows why). I wish everyday that I could help him somehow.


I have no advice. I can only wish you luck and applaud your efforts.
 
How is her memory? Little details like what was eaten a few days prior is often forgotten quickly in schizophrenics.

The only thing is she seemed to create memories of communications which I know or find hard to believe ever transpired.

Talked to her today and she seemed way better. Something happened which is providing her more financial stability and this seemed to make a difference. A completely normal, but brief conversation.
 
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