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Chemistry of myths

hinjeet

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There are several myths about highs whose chemistry I'd like to see explained (with formulas). If the chemistry is explained well, it becomes evident what is the result of the reaction, and the components can be looked up.
Not to be offensive, please don't offer judgments or irrelevant things. Aside from facts, like "this is proven to be poisonous in humans at dosages exceeding ..." or "this is psychoactive in humans", I only like interesting advice, like "although LSA is weaker than LSD, it's easier to obtain." Your post will most likely not be useful to me or appreciated if you don't answer my question. I know all people are different but I simply want to prevent people humiliating and offending me. It happens so many times so that a request to avoid that shouldn't hurt. Of course, reflecting on this request is irrelevant to the question and should be avoided.

1. This seems to be simply a pun on the street word for LSD, acid, but I still want the chemistry.
2 egg whites
1 oz mixture (3 parts baking soda, 2 parts water)
4 fresh cherries
a small amount of red wine (teaspoon)
First of all, you'll want to get some good, expensive red wine. The cheap stuff works, but your trips will be crappier and you'll get some nausea.
ok, now that you have your stuff, put the Egg whites and cherries in a large bowl. Start stirring until you get a pinkish mass. Now, Pour in your mixture of baking soda. As you do this you will notice heat building and a small amount of smoke being let off- this is normal. Wait about 10 minutes to cool. Then Pour in the red wine. Immediately after you do this, steam will gather and after afew seconds you will be left with A clear liquid at the bottom of the bowl. This is your acid.

2.
if u have a car or just an extra car battery lying around theres a couple caps ontop the battery open that and just drink it u should have a goodtrip and c some crazy visuals and if ur lucky u wont have a bad trip

3.
cut orange in half
insert 2-3 pennies
tape the orange together
let it rot for a couple weeks
put the pennies in your mouth for 5 min
 
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Hahahah what the hell are you on about? Maybe the last one would form the nice and toxic copper sulfate but wtf?
 
I don't understand what type of explanation you expect. These myths just look like something that someone thought of when they were drugged up and bored wanting to fuck with feeble people's minds. Car battery's are made of a lead-acid or sometimes lithium so the best type of high you're going to get is a toxic high, haha.
 
Well I expect the answer for each of them. The first one and the last involve a synthesis so a reaction formula is needed if a reaction indeed occurs. Otherwise your answer about car battery is perfectly fine. I understand what you're saying but I'd simply like to understand the chemistry of the reactions involved.

Something like (just a made up sample):
Car batteries contain sodium (Na) and when you combine that with the carboxylic acid in oranges you obtain Citric Sodium.
Na + KCOOH = CNaHO2
This is in fact a pleasant psychoactive in humans at dosages from 780 mg to 900 mg, but at dosages exceeding 1050 mg this is proven to be poisonous in humans. The synthesis described above seems to be off because the fermentation of orange would take at least twice as long.
 
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I hope you're just kidding, although I fear with the increasing amount of dumb kids posting, that someone may just drink battery acid (not sure how) and have serious injuries. Also prying open a battery, is a great way to have it explode if you're not careful, especially if it's old and has been acquiring gas.

I'm not sure whats in cherries, but you'd probably have some form of acid + NaHCO3 + ethanol. Nothing to really react with.

Other than that though, I can't even joke and try to come up with chemistry, because your just making a homogeneous mixture of baking soda, ethanol, and some cherries.

Maybe if the orange rots in sufficent conditions, prone to boost ergine growth, you could come up with lsa, but you could just use rye bread so, um ya.
 
I'd simply like to understand the chemistry of the reactions involved...Something like...Car batteries contain sodium (Na) and when you combine that with the carboxylic acid in oranges you obtain Citric Sodium. Na + KCOOH = CNaHO2...seems to be off

Seems to be sodium formate. Also, potassium is more reactive than sodium so Na + KCOOH ---> No Reaction
 
1. no chemistry, just dumb

2. no chemistry, just lead (toxic) and sulfuric acid (caustic)

3. no chemistry, just rotting orange

rofltroll!
 
You have basically answered all of my questions, but I wonder what happens when an orange rots, and whether that could somehow react with metal in pennies.
My example wasn't supposed to be correct, it was random.
I appreciate all the responses that contributed to the subject. Chemistry is every reaction. If two substances won't react in a given situation there is a chemical reason. While these particular recipes may be harmful if ingested, that does not detract from the benefits of information. Nobody has to reply and if they don't comment on the chemistry they're probably wasting space.
 
Should produce copper citrate from any oxidized copper on the coin. Of course depending upon what other metals are present in the coin, you could get other metal salts eg nickel (the copper coinage in the UK didn't use to be magnetic, but is now and seeing copper isn't ferromagnetic, there must be another ferromagnetic metal present eg iron, nickel, cobalt. Even iron salts are toxic if you have too much; nickel salts cause cancer and cobalt is just out & out poisonous).

Any heavy metal ion ingested over certain amounts will cause a toxic delerium, although in some cases it's a prelude to death...


Number 2 (the car battery) is basically a short cut to bleeding into your stomach and suffering hypocalcaemia as the Ca++ ions are precipitated by the excess SO4-- (if you don't succumb to lead poisoning first)


Number 1 is just cookery bollocks - like some recipie for merangues thought up by the worst chef in the world
 
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Something like (just a made up sample):
Car batteries contain sodium (Na) and when you combine that with the carboxylic acid in oranges you obtain Citric Sodium.
Na + KCOOH = CNaHO2

This is totally not chemistry. Concerning the first post in this topic - too much dirty speed or what?

From what I know one penny is steel (so iron with little carbon) covered with bronze (copper with a great range of metal, metalloid and non-metal... This is rather Drugged Sci-Fi Drug Discussion...

Not to be offensive, please don't offer judgments or irrelevant things. Aside from facts, like "this is proven to be poisonous in humans at dosages exceeding ..." or "this is psychoactive in humans", I only like interesting advice, like "although LSA is weaker than LSD, it's easier to obtain."

I guess you couldn't get more accurate answers!

You got the point, at least one, perhaps for some. But on the other side I wouldn't be so sure. For Argyreia nervosa seeds I have to go to some flower warehouse and I can obtain nice blotters with one phone. So firstly I'd have LSD faster and secondly I could consume LSD faster
 
^ i dunno, the "how do i extract my ball smell" thread a little while back gives this one a run for its money... can't find it now though, i hope it didn't get deleted.
 
i remember when i took my first chemistry class in jr high. ppl like this are the ones that get drugs prohibited, too much balls and not enough brains.
 
Ummm...wow....where did you get these three ideas? I'm at a loss for words for the OP and the "ball smell extract". lol
 
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