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HPPD and Questions about it...

ShAYZoN

ShAYZoN

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First I'll say the list of substances that most Likely did it--
Benadrly
Ecstasy
Mushies
WEED(for sure)
I've never consumed LSD but I want to...



So I've notices sense I began rolling/smoking that I have couple of the symptoms including. . .

Grainy air, Things constently seem to be moving not significantly but I can clearly see it happing. Everything looks more vivid color wise. I see floaters not alot but often enough for it to be annoying. I feel like I'm almost constently in a very light mushroom trip.

The reason I finally decided to post something was because last nigt afte smoking some DANK out of a hookah it actually worsend it. I was fine while I was baked but as soon as the comedown from the weed stared I literally was tripping bawls. (Keep in mind I have a HUGE tolerance to weed where I rarley can get "baked") anyways things wher distorted like curtins,cabinets all looked like they had heat coming off of them. Alot of things actually looked like they where melting.

This freaked me out I had a panic attack it made it so much worse. Like on top of that everyone was asleep I felt sick I felt like I wa coming up on a mushies. The trees outside looked like they where moving in and out it was fucking intense.

My main few questions consist of--

1. Will my vision return to normal
2. Why did weed enhance it to a point where I felt like I took a psycedelic?
3. What can I do to help m panic feeling I'm stuck with now like I feel panicked about it constently because it's alot more vivid even when I'm not stoned because of this experiance!
 
The bond between anxiety and HPPD runs deep. It's tough explain, because the visual disturbances are a problem in and of themselves, but they are also a symptom.

For example, if you pop a xanax, the symptoms won't just disappear, but you will notice them less.. and that's the key point here. Your mind is processing things differently, which is causing anxiety, which is causing you to notice it more. Rinse, repeat.. the cycle continues.

Will it subside? Yes, probably. It did for me, but it didn't happen overnight. Work on developing a healthy respect for psychoactives.
 
Yes it subsides. You are obviously very young and simply unfamiliar with your organism. Not to sound condescending but really how much do you know about your body? You will see a great many things with your eyes throughout your lifetime and sometimes it will be blurry. Every person on earth will experience such things except you are worrying about them now because you think you have reason to worry. As above poster said it's only dependent on how much you care about it. You can still be a great marine biologist or whatever you wish. Life is simply better with psychedelics.
 
I took LSD very heavily last year. I had many of the symptoms that you described, after about 8 months without taking psychedelics (I didn't even smoke cannabis) they disappeared. I kind of liked it at the time, I would even get visuals from drinking alcohol. There are times I had full on psychedelic trips from smoking weed, it defiantly exacerbates HPPD. I never got panic attacks though. If weed is triggering the panic attacks maybe you should stop smoking it.
 
I had effects like you described from using LSD and I was not into it heavily but the HPPD/Visual noise or whatever you want to call it subsided when I stopped using psychedelics and I abstained from smoking herb too since that was not helping and herb was not recreational then since I'd get a trip then. I never took benzos.
 
I have pretty mild HPPD/visual snow, patterns, etc/whatever now, but it was somewhere from moderate to severe a few years ago. So it does usually get better. I had to stop smoking pot, I really think that's what helped the most. It is an hallucinogen after all. Your mileage may vary.

It doesn't seem like it effects you too much when you're not high, just a mild nuisance (I'm the same way - the only time it's more than that is when it's raining - light reflecting and all - especially when I'm driving). Try not to focus on it, it'll work itself out. Don't worry too much. :)
 
Been living with HPPD for 2 years and I have pretty much every symptom imaginable including dissociation/depersonalization.

It gets significantly worse when consuming any drug, even alcohol/caffeine/opiates/etc.

I know the cure.

Clonazepam. Take a high dose every week. Symptoms will disappear like snow under the sun.

They will gradually come back when using any mind altering substance except benzos.

So I stick with clonazepam. ONCE a week. Completely cures all symptoms, allows me to drink and do drugs whenever I want, as long as I stick to my weekly benzo system.
 
batmanplaybaseball said:
Yes it subsides. You are obviously very young and simply unfamiliar with your organism. Not to sound condescending but really how much do you know about your body? You will see a great many things with your eyes throughout your lifetime and sometimes it will be blurry. Every person on earth will experience such things except you are worrying about them now because you think you have reason to worry. As above poster said it's only dependent on how much you care about it. You can still be a great marine biologist or whatever you wish. Life is simply better with psychedelics.
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Oh I get myself belive that.
 
The best way to deal with HPPD is to not let yourself be bothered by it. I do see tracers and anytime I look at something bright and close my eyes I get after-images for a couple seconds. I also see kind of a TV-snow type thing on the walls for weeks after doing any psychedelics. Any time I get tired it gets very pronounced. Also when I wake up in the morning I tend to hallucinate and see faces and stuff in inanimate objects for several minutes. At first these things freaked me out, but now I'm so used to them that it really doesn't bother me, and it is not like this prevents me from living a normal life. I did stop doing all drugs for a good 3 years, not from bad experiences with drugs but just because I lost interest for awhile, and after six months or so the HPPD went away completely.

The main triggers for this seem to be stress/sleep deprevation, and of course continued drug use. But just don't let it freak you out, and if it does truly freak you out stop doing drugs for several months and it will correct itself.

I did wake up the day after a 2c-e trip quasi-blind to the point that I couldn't read, and that freaked me out a bit, but then after 90 mins I could see just fine. So I just think that generally allowing yourself to panic or be anxious is going to make things worse, but being positive-minded and relaxing will probably help considerably.
 
It just depends on the person I guess.

I get depersonalization just from normal life and that is not a HPPD symptom, I've always felt that way even years before trying any drugs for the first time. Probably why I love dissociatives so much.

For me MDMA actually gets rid of DP. It does cause halos and tracers while tripping but they're really minor compared to something like 2c-e. When I do 2c-e I get full-blown visuals.

I got lasik about 12 years ago, and for a couple years I had bad halos around everything when it was dark out, bad enough that I avoided driving at night for awhile, thankfully they cleared up. So HPPD tracers really don't bother me that much, I'm used to them and they don't interfere with reading.

I think I had some residual derealization back when I was comboing K and shrooms a lot for a few months, but I don't do that combo anymore.

Lately I've been seeing cartoon faces/aliens/anthropomorphized animals/demons every time I look at anything kind of abstract like floor tile or bumpy wall paint or clouds. I don't find this to be annoying, I kind of like it. I'm thinking of drawing some of the figures I see when I have more time for creative pursuits.

I'm not saying that drugs are risk-free or that psychs are for everyone, but at least for me living a life of extreme depression and suicidal ideation when I'm not doing any drugs was far worse than a bit of HPPD from being in tune with myself emotionally and spiritually connected and having much better self esteem from doing mdma and 2ce (not in combination).

What I found made the difference was getting pure powder and weighing out doses myself on an accurate scale and being really in tune to my body. If you just buy pressed pills off a random dealer you can't be sure what you're getting. This is why I think I'm not going to do shrooms again but will probably try 4-aco-dmt as I can be accurate with the dosing.
 
It was some trip on something, possibly marijuana, where I grabbed a sheet of paper and wrote down,


'the important thing is to not be afraid of your own mind'


It kind of fits here.
 
Hey dude, you've got some good advice so far. HPPD is something that once you learn to live with, it shouldn't really be an issue. For the first few months after I noticed it I was fucking scared - I honestly though it'd ruin my life. Then I read more about it and found that it isn't at all uncommon in the psychedelic community and many have dealt with it before. I followed the standard advice and stopped worrying about. I just acknowledge that whilst it may go away in the future, for now it's here to stay so I just have to cope with it.

What do you know, I'm now at the point where it virtually never bothers me, and I actually enjoy a lot of the effects (tracers are amazing :D). I also trip to varying degrees from weed now, which can actually be pretty damn good once you accept it ;)

It can be a hard road at times, but given time you'll get there. Best of luck :)
 
I got HPPD from shrooms and couldn't even smoke weed afterwards, it would trip me out and give me a panic attack. However after a year off weed I started smoking it again, I was ok on it unless I have too much and then I would have similar effects to before but less extreme...

I didn't realise it at the time but the weed was definitely making my HPPD a hell of a lot worse.. After about 6 months back on the weed my visuals were far more intense.. Then one day I got really stoned and went on a massive panic attack that was so bad I quit weed again that instant. It fucked me up so bad that for about a month afterwards I would have frequent anxiety attacks from my visuals and generally feeling strange.

After around 8 months off the weed my visuals had almost completely vanished and now (about a year afterwards) I have almost zero visuals and HPPD doesn't effect my life at all. Quitting weed is the best thing I ever did.

Just based off my experience anyway I would advise quitting weed and cutting out any psychodelics. For me I can drink alcohol, take cocaine and other stimulants fine.
 
^ Yeah, I quickly lost interest in weed when I was able to get a hold of more interesting drugs. I just don't enjoy it that much, it is fun socially but not something I want to do very often or with any kind of frequency.

I agree that it amplifies HPPD. I did shrooms with weed a few times and it definitely caused the visuals to be a lot stronger, but not in a fun way.
 
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