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30/5/10: Sixty Minutes Marijuana legalization story
- Thread starter MilliVanilli
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Willing to bet my parents earned much more than yours and I bet I went to a more expensive school than you and I agree with all the posters that your arguments are flawed and come from a very uneducated position.
MovedToCairns
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Surprise Surprise another private school fuckwit doesn't know shit, lynnie needs to go buy a case, fill her prescription, smoke 50 durries and go play the pokies. Then flick a durrie butt in the gutter while complaining about tags on the wall
JoshE
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Haha yea was just going to say that, but yea just finished watching it and man i hope we follow in California's footstep's...Apart from that, i only have one thing to say and that is:
Collin Barnett, go fuck yourself
Social and lifestyle choices can be said to be based on morals developed through life as a child and teenager and even through adulthood with the foundations starting from the relatively younger years. Of course if cannabis was legalised we would see a lot of younger people smoking it but with respect to alcohol and tobacco what is the difference in negative effects? I'd like to see a credible study...
Yes the propagation of information due to the media can be quite astounding to younger people but it comes down to can the drug be utilised safely in comparison to other licit substances. The world has to move forward, the cost of fighting a war on marijuana is not worth it.
You mentioned society knowing the risks of alcohol and tobacco. Based on my anecdotal evidence from what I see on a Friday and Saturday night I don't think we do, alcohol is a horribly abused substance and a lot of people don't even know it. Getting absolutely shitfaced on the weekend like clockwork for a lot of people. Smoking on the other hand I think we are starting to understand the risks due to government education methods. Cannabis should be no different, it's considerable less physically addictive than the aforementioned two substances (provided substances like nicotine aren't added) and does have therapeutic benefits.
I understand what your saying there are detrimental health effects due to smoking marijuana. In the end we might be better off keeping it illegal but this problem is not going to go away is it
baysieguy1
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I think the first step needs to be decrimialisation before legalisation.
One step at a time folks, one step at a time
One step at a time folks, one step at a time
I am not interested in websites that see things from one perspective as there are two side of things and when it comes to marijuana i am very certain there are more cons than pros.
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If you wanna think you are far more superior because of your parents then so bet it. I can feel your very sensitive on this subject but not everyone will agree with your opinion and that is something you have to learn either if you like it or not but i think what you mentioned about your parents and school is very uneducated to begin with.
MovedToCairns
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I disagree, the one "pro" there is, is the fucking government is not getting more of our hard earned thats it. Sorry lyn, I'm sure your a good person but on this topic you seem stupid and one sided.
MilliVanilli
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Collin Barnett, go fuck yourself
Hahaha, so true man. Him and Tracy Grimshaw should get a room and have disgusting conservative sex so she can have her sensationalist orgasm.
thestudent14
Bluelighter
It was only a few weeks ago, that I changed my views from thinking cannabis staying illegal to where I now stand that it should be legal.
@Lynnie
I whole heartadly agree that one sided articles are rarely worth reading.
I did read that article anyway though, and even though it was one sided it was also factual.
I think you're over stepping your grounds to stand on.
Because at the end of the day, the damage done by weed is very minimal and to very few people. If there was no such thing as a black market and everyone followed the law you would have some basis for your argument. But it's human nature to test the boundaries and experience new things.
Therefore I believe the con's don't outweigh the pro's of legalisation.
I'm not gonna tell you what to believe, because I'm sure you have your reasons. But I'd encourage you to read some articles for and against legalisation to have a more balanced view. You might just find yourself re-considerring just like I did
@Lynnie
I whole heartadly agree that one sided articles are rarely worth reading.
I did read that article anyway though, and even though it was one sided it was also factual.
I think you're over stepping your grounds to stand on.
Because at the end of the day, the damage done by weed is very minimal and to very few people. If there was no such thing as a black market and everyone followed the law you would have some basis for your argument. But it's human nature to test the boundaries and experience new things.
Therefore I believe the con's don't outweigh the pro's of legalisation.
I'm not gonna tell you what to believe, because I'm sure you have your reasons. But I'd encourage you to read some articles for and against legalisation to have a more balanced view. You might just find yourself re-considerring just like I did
drug_mentor
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Lynnie its so funny you talk about society knowing the harms of alcohol and tobacco, if they really did then why do people die every fucking day due to these substances? The funny thing is that is more an argument for you than it is for us, because if society REALLY knew the harms of smoking and drinking then it would prove legalisation and education was fool proof but even we pro legalisation folks have to concede it isn't.
The thing is, I enjoy marijuana, I smoke it every day and I do feel as far as putting me to sleep it has some therapeutic value. But at the end of the day I am abusing a drug daily, partially because I like the effects, partially because I feel like I need something to put me out, and if I am honest partially because I find my day much easier if I get to enjoy a buzz at the end of it.
I admit for the amount of abuse of marijuana in the world and the fact society as a whole is too dumb to even capitalise on the revenue that could be made off it or the majority of medicinal properties it has means cannabis is probably a negative influence on the world overall at this point in time.
I do believe though, that through the combined effects of reduction of alcohol consumption worldwide, shitloads of extra tax dollars raised, reduction of our prison populations and realisation of the full medicinal benefits of this wonderful plant cannabis could prove to be a positive force in the world.
The fact is, even if it remained a negative force overall, legalisation would definately reduce the negative impact it as on society in my opinion because there ARE advantages to legalising as well as the drawbacks. The thing about the so called drawbacks of legalising is that, that is going on NOW, it is being used by shitloads of people regardless of its legal status and causing about as much harm as it is ever going to, the only thing making it illegal does is add the harm to the cannabis consumer that they are also a criminal as well as damaging their health.
I don't think ANY drug should be illegal or restricted in any way other than minimum purchasing age, but I do see some sensible arguments on the side of prohibition of most drugs. It is my personal opinion there is not one single good reason to keep marijuana outlawed and the sooner society (I should say the Government because I do think 'society' as a whole is starting to realise) figures this out the better the world will be for it.
The thing is, I enjoy marijuana, I smoke it every day and I do feel as far as putting me to sleep it has some therapeutic value. But at the end of the day I am abusing a drug daily, partially because I like the effects, partially because I feel like I need something to put me out, and if I am honest partially because I find my day much easier if I get to enjoy a buzz at the end of it.
I admit for the amount of abuse of marijuana in the world and the fact society as a whole is too dumb to even capitalise on the revenue that could be made off it or the majority of medicinal properties it has means cannabis is probably a negative influence on the world overall at this point in time.
I do believe though, that through the combined effects of reduction of alcohol consumption worldwide, shitloads of extra tax dollars raised, reduction of our prison populations and realisation of the full medicinal benefits of this wonderful plant cannabis could prove to be a positive force in the world.
The fact is, even if it remained a negative force overall, legalisation would definately reduce the negative impact it as on society in my opinion because there ARE advantages to legalising as well as the drawbacks. The thing about the so called drawbacks of legalising is that, that is going on NOW, it is being used by shitloads of people regardless of its legal status and causing about as much harm as it is ever going to, the only thing making it illegal does is add the harm to the cannabis consumer that they are also a criminal as well as damaging their health.
I don't think ANY drug should be illegal or restricted in any way other than minimum purchasing age, but I do see some sensible arguments on the side of prohibition of most drugs. It is my personal opinion there is not one single good reason to keep marijuana outlawed and the sooner society (I should say the Government because I do think 'society' as a whole is starting to realise) figures this out the better the world will be for it.
MovedToCairns
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exactly
MgmtBlue
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It's unfortunate that you let society dictate who you are. I am not a Marijuana smoker, but I advocate for its legalization. You're right though, you can't compare alcohol and tobacco. It kills people every day. Marijuana does not. The only reason "society" does not know this is because the government does not want it to know.
I can go on for hours about how legalization would benefit many countries as a whole which include drastically improving the state of their economy, reduction in illegal drug deals that result in murder, relieving prison overcrowding, etc etc etc etc.
Open your mind a little and see things from both sides of the aisle, as you had previously suggested to another poster.
Mr Blonde
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My thoughts on all this can be summed up in the following image:
Also I believe marijuana should be made legal along with other substances in time, there needs to be more education I have seen far too many people who already have mental health problems exacerbating it with marijuana use. I myself have been guilty of that but I don't smoke marijuana anymore.
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Also I believe marijuana should be made legal along with other substances in time, there needs to be more education I have seen far too many people who already have mental health problems exacerbating it with marijuana use. I myself have been guilty of that but I don't smoke marijuana anymore.
MrIbis
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will you guys stop bagging this guy out for his opinion that weed doesn't help anyone? shit no one even goes at me for it anymore - and I firmly stand by the fact i think weed really isn't that beneficial to mankind.
I start this point (for the 862nd time) by stating that the alkaloids in MJ ARE DRUGS - and not just a fucking plant. We don't put this rule to mescaline cactii, opium poppies, sassafrass, acacia, mushrooms - the whole plethora of plants which our favourite chemicals come from or are derived from.
I mean chemistry at this bare basics came from what? Alchemy, and the study of plants and their contents.
I start this point (for the 862nd time) by stating that the alkaloids in MJ ARE DRUGS - and not just a fucking plant. We don't put this rule to mescaline cactii, opium poppies, sassafrass, acacia, mushrooms - the whole plethora of plants which our favourite chemicals come from or are derived from.
I mean chemistry at this bare basics came from what? Alchemy, and the study of plants and their contents.
Mr Blonde
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^ I agree with Mr Ibis on the plant thing. If it applies to marijuana it has to apply to everything so that I can have legal opium.
Blanketlol
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OMG this must be super serial if CAPITAL letters are needed!!!
Well that was quite a terrible story....but at least it had some pro legalisation in it and was not completely one sided.
Very poor reporting by whoever that journo was..failed a few times with the 'whats next, growing heroin in your room?' and 'so you can pick your poison?' I was surprised they didnt edit those out...
anyone who is against legalising marijuana should take a trip to canada
Busty St Clare
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I can already imagine the letters to Woolie next week...
"I have seen first hand the damage this so called soft drug causes to innocent minds. Won't someone please think of the children..."
I'd just be happy if they decriminalised it and all you got were a fine. Or your car taken away from you.
"I have seen first hand the damage this so called soft drug causes to innocent minds. Won't someone please think of the children..."
I'd just be happy if they decriminalised it and all you got were a fine. Or your car taken away from you.
drug_mentor
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I don't recall many people stating that just because marijuana was made legal other plants should stay so, and the crux of the argument for marijuana legalisation was hardly the fact that it is a plant. Personally I believe all drugs should be legal, and while the fact marijuana is a naturally occuring substance makes it just ever so slightly more baffling to me that it is outlawed, drug prohibition baffles me in general whether the drug is natural or synthetic and whether a drug has relatively few harms like marijuana or many like methamhetamine and alcohol.
Its pretty well documented that marijuana ranks fairly low on the addiction scale, and that is coming from someone who considers themselves dependant on the shit. It is also well documented it has more medicinal uses than most other recreational drugs and less negative health consequences than most recreational drugs as well.
I don't think it even makes sense to say there is a level that its OK to go to in an effort to get fucked up and a level that isn't, I mean who gets to draw that line? I am not even pointing out marijuana has less potential to cause harm than most other drugs as one of those elitists that thinks just marijuana should be legal, but honestly IF only one drug was put forward for legalisation weed would have to be the most sensible option.
Its pretty well documented that marijuana ranks fairly low on the addiction scale, and that is coming from someone who considers themselves dependant on the shit. It is also well documented it has more medicinal uses than most other recreational drugs and less negative health consequences than most recreational drugs as well.
I don't think it even makes sense to say there is a level that its OK to go to in an effort to get fucked up and a level that isn't, I mean who gets to draw that line? I am not even pointing out marijuana has less potential to cause harm than most other drugs as one of those elitists that thinks just marijuana should be legal, but honestly IF only one drug was put forward for legalisation weed would have to be the most sensible option.