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PD's Big & Dandy 5-IAI Thread

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I'll tell people to not hold there breath with this one, I think I'm leaving all new shit being spat out, stick to what you know.

Which is…? Massively impure, adulterated cocaine? Watered-down amphetamine sold as 'base'? Pills with a 50% probability of containing any MDMA?

No offence to anyone, but I find a lot of peoples' attitude to these new / (r)emerging RCs slightly odd - especially when they talk about 'traditional' recreational drugs as if they are the pinnacle of benignity. :)
 
Found this report:

Tried it with a couple of friends in my flat, nice relaxed atmosphere. I'm a 5ft 10 male and weigh about 10 stone. Have experience with weed, MDMA, mephedrone, methylone, ketamine, MDAT, MDAi and salvia.

T + 0 - Bombed 0.05 after doing an allergy test and getting no reaction.
T + 45mins - Started to get threshold effects like something was about to happen or something would happen if I took more.
T + 1hr - The feeling subsided so I decided to up the dose and bombed 0.1.
T + 1hr 35mins - The previous feeling returned and gradually got a bit stronger over the next ten minutes. I felt a slight boost in happiness. No body buzz, just a very mild euphoric feeling in my head, like I had taken a very very very small dose of MDMA. Perhaps the feeling is similar to the first few minutes when MDMA starts to kick in, when you know that your about to feel very good.
T + 2hrs - Still had the same feeling, it had not increased. Still no body feel to it at all. No tingling or rushes. Just a very slight uplift in mood, similar but a little bit better then MDAT.
T + 2hrs 10mins - Wasn't sure if I still had the feeling or not, its so mild its very hard to tell. Snorted a 0.1 line. Smelled and tasted like sweet soap. Like some mixture of soap and candyfloss, which is interesting seeing as Donny said his smelled like mcat (note I have had plenty of experience with mcat and would definately definately know if it was mcat). The dripback was fine, literally very little taste.
T + 2hrs 15mins - The ever so slight uplift returned, but you have to really look for it. It made conversation a little more enjoyable, but not much more than being in a good mood would do. It literally is an artificial way of putting yourself in a good mood.
T + 3hrs 30mins - I got distracted by doing something else and completely forgot I was testing this new drug. Decided to try a much larger dose and see where that would take me and bombed 0.3.
T + 4hrs (approx) - The previous feeling came in waves, but wasn't really any stronger. Was just generally in a good mood and enjoyed conversation or doing other tasks like cooking hash fudge and watching family guy. You would be forgiven for forgetting that you were on a drug.
T + 4-5hrs - Was struggling to record time by this point, but not due to the drug. Was just being lazy. At some point in that hour we had a spliff, which felt a lot better than usual. It really brought out the 5-IAI and actually gave a slight rush. Those of us mcat lovers will remember how good smoking was on meph, similar sort of thiing on 5-IAI, but more noticable because your not so high in the first place. Didn't have a lot of the spliff but still felt pretty high, and it lasted for a good couple of hours. Certainly way longer then that amount would usually have.
T+ 6 hrs (approx) The weed wore off and I was completely at base line. The only side effects I felt was a slight awareness of my brain i.e. verging on a headache. Not painful, just aware that my brain was there.

Conclusion: Similar to MDAT and MDAi in that it just gives a very slight uplift. Didn't last very long, although it was kind of hard to tell how long it lasted because it was so mild. Worrying that Donny's smelled different to mine, even though mine was a very white powder which indeed looked very much like meph powder (I usually bought crystal). I don't know if this was truly 5-IAI but I can only give the experience of what I did take. Sorry, wish I could be more helpful. I woke up this morning with no hang over whatsoever. Slept for the usual 7-8 hrs and I feel fine.
 
From the report rickolasnice found:

Started to get threshold effects like something was about to happen or something would happen if I took more.

I felt a slight boost in happiness. No body buzz, just a very mild euphoric feeling in my head, like I had taken a very very very small dose of MDMA. Perhaps the feeling is similar to the first few minutes when MDMA starts to kick in, when you know that your about to feel very good.

This seems to be a reoccurring comment on 5-IAI reports.

Smelled and tasted like sweet soap. Like some mixture of soap and candyfloss

Although I haven't sampled any, this is how the substance that I have seen labelled as 5-IAI smells whilst still in the bag.
 
The report posted by rickolasnice sounds like what my mate experienced on n-cat - very, very mild efects, even after scoffing the best of a gram.

Could some sellers be passing this off as 5-iai? Is anyone able to compare the two (in effect or appearance)?

I seriously hope 5-iai is better than what's being reported so far. :(
 
Oh lawdy, N-cat.

I heard someone suggested perhaps taking with it with another serotonin agonist because 5-IAI could have a very low affinity for the 5-HT receptors it binds to unlike which has a stronger affinity to the receptors.

Since the receptor binding is weaker perhaps it doesn't trigger off the cell responses needed. This might explain the prolonged edge of coming up feeling since it's just not managing to release enough serotonin due 5-iai being a lousy 5-ht receptor agonist.

That's only an idea and I'm sure others will know more about it, I only have A level biology and Chemistry knowledge. I don't remember either well so I could have made up whole new laws for myself :)

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People may not get a kind of crazy MDMA euphoria magic with this drug unless they mix it with a serotonin agonist. My guess is it'll make it a lot more neurotoxic, though.
There it is.

Good idea Nuke but your right about increased risk seeing as 5-iai has some neurotoxicity already, slapping more on wouldn't be advisable and with rumours of MAOI potential it wouldn't be extremely safe to to go around trying this until more is known.
 
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Couldn't it be that all the people who have tried it so far have gotten it from the same supplier, and it is low quality?
 
There are two batches and I think we have only heard trip reports from batch, Botfly however has 5-iai from the other supplier not the one I got mine from.

There is also the possibility "N-cat" is 5-iai seeing as it did pop up at the same time 5-iai finally got stock.

Such a dirty mess

We should just cunt punch each vendor.
 
all these pictures are the exact same as the stuff that got sent to me the other week. flour like powder, no smell at all. and some of the reports are of similar nature..

What I have seen definitely isn't flour-like powder (see pics below) - so I agree with Special Monster, above, that there are two batches - one of which is, by all accounts, inert.

Bag:
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Zoomed in:
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mine is a clumpy sort of powder but glistens somewhat in the light so it's kind of crystally as well and pwdery, it's not one or the other. looks kind of like the above pic. the smell really reminds me of mephedrone as well.

i would call 5-iai a mongy chilled out less intense version of mephedrone if that is what i've got.nice but the comedown is felt sort of instantly like meph. not as harsh though just craving type of thing. seems far more gentle on the heart than mephedrone. you don't sweat that much either so i'd imagine it's not as toxic as meph. hmm typing feels really cool, i'm not making any mistakes either:D
 
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I don't know what my batch exactly was because really I agree on all thats said as what I had was really spacey and mongy high, tiny blurred vision, found my self staring, no eye dilations, for around a hour of it I felt like it was on the verge of a really good MDMA come up for about one hour of it but the I never got any strong euphoria just spacey with mild euphoria.

It left me after in a similar way to mephedrone where you just keep all the stimulation and shitty speedy effects and mong out. No empathy really to speak of.

Thats the main reason I didn't like it, never liked mephedrone. Though I didn't get the mephedrone euphoria but instead a clean headed spacey mellow one that seemed to stay with me longer than I remember mephedrone.

It's alright but it's not for me, left me feeling monged out, I don't want another mephedrone.

Edit: My stuff does look similar that where it's fine powder, that is clumpy but has no problem seperating it and you see slight crystal gleams when looking into the light.
 
Being as stupid as i am, i have consumed the full gram over around 24hrs. I now have a lot of pain in my wrists and mid arm.
 
Being as stupid as i am, i have consumed the full gram over around 24hrs. I now have a lot of pain in my wrists and mid arm.

Had any sleep...

Ive done around 500mg, i got some sleep...i find though if you overthink and worry about a twitch or the slightest pain, it can magnified with no sleep and of course added in how little is actually known about this RC.

Im starting to think from the doses i have taken it could take maybe 150mg - 200mg for any decent affects.

Ive dosed about 150mg in the space of 6 hours today all @ 50mg, only on my last one did i get any decent affect.
 
So how did you all enjoy the E3?
Are you all hiring a minibus *snip* as we speak with the intention of demanding you hard earned spondoolies back? Trades desription act and all that.....

Still look on the bright side, least it wasn't Salt and least you weren't poisoned.
 
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recived my sample this morning, doesnt look like yours redrangercraig, more fine powder but slight mephdrone smell but not as bad tasting,

set off the evening with good size dinner and started with small dabs( dont like to sniff really) definatly noticable effects and very mellow, have the feeling i need to keep topping up but maybe need higher dose. definatly feels more like MDMA and properly better feeling than mepthadrone but not as strong.

only tryed out for a few hours before giving it the full go tommorow night. but overall impresstions its ok, nothing with the wow factor
 
I personally think it was a bad batch and the guy suppliers who claim it was the real i am are just cowboys who took peoples money, im going to wait till its more widely availible then ill post my new thoguhts on it as me and my partner have done the other gram in today and both of us had nothing from it at all

Id say to anyone wait till its more readily availible to try it and post your reports
 
I personally think it was a bad batch and the guy suppliers who claim it was the real i am are just cowboys who took peoples money, im going to wait till its more widely availible then ill post my new thoguhts on it as me and my partner have done the other gram in today and both of us had nothing from it at all

Id say to anyone wait till its more readily availible to try it and post your reports

Could well be true but until people start using marquis and other tests on their samples theres no way to even know if everyone has the same chemical.
 
Been following 5-iai goings on for around 3-4 weeks now, and from the general jist of things, its looking extremely alike the same round up to fame mephedrone had : vendors eager to get the product out, yet also equally eager for an easy profit, and so some take advantage that nobody knows anything about the product, and pass it off as something else, and others drop the purity only to increase it later. I'm no expert on this whatsoever, but just think people really should take precautions so we can all figure out what we're dealing with here. Hopeing this turns out to be a good RC and not another naphyrone.:)
 
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