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So that was a serious question.. I tuned out halfway through the lolcats inspired introduction.

Anyways, I never thought this would happen to me but I was the target of an e-mail scam. I received this little gem in my work in box on Monday night -

Thank you for your earnest response. Let me start by introducing my company, China National Oil Corporation. We deal with Natural oil products and we are one of the largest suppliers of oil products around the world, for more information about us you can go to our website (cnooc.com.cn)

We request your representation to counsel us in the litigation and enable us collect a debt owed to us by a delinquent customer, we do appreciate your time in reviewing our request and we will do everything possible to insure a smooth and hitch free business relationship. We are ready to work with you to achieve our goal as the importance of your services cannot be over emphasized.

We understand the importance of retaining your services accordingly and we will provide all necessary documentation and information in that regard. We understand your request for more information and we will not relent in providing information as they deem necessary.

We are of the opinion that once our presence is established in your state via a legal representative our customer will have no option but comply with payment request and accompanied with legal action and litigation will push for the accounts to be paid attention to effectively.


We believe that a normal scenario will require a phone call or demand letter from you to our delinquent customer if your services is retained. Although we believed that litigation should be applied as a last resort as we intend to preserve the relationship we have with our customer, since payment is not made, we think otherwise. Though, we do hope not to resort to litigation unless all other options are exhausted but we will like the comfort of knowing that the option is available and letting our customer know that litigation may be enforced if the option becomes necessary.

We understand the concept of running a conflict check that is why we are providing our delinquent customer located in your state for your conflict check and to enable you present to us your retainer agreement for your services.

Bass Strait Oil Company
1/99 William St, Melbourne VIC 3000, Australia.

This particular customer owes approx. $900,000.00 and the payment is overdue as our regular payment agreement requires customer to effect payment not later than 30 days upon payment or legal action may be enforced if payment delay exceeds 90 days. delivery for this customer was made in November of 2009 and our calculation shows that delivery is about Five Months late.

It will be very helpful if we receive your standard retainer agreement before noon on Friday your time. This will enable our board decide on the conditions of the retainer in our next board meeting.

We thank you for your business as we look forward to your prompt response.

Sincerely

Mr. Cheng Chi
President and General Counsel
China National Oil Corporation.
No.25,Chaoyangmenbei Dajie, Dongcheng District,
Beijing 100010，P. R. China
Tel: 86 10 8452 1012
Fax: 86 10 6460 2600
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That email is actually in response to one I sent to his original email which was something along the lines of 'do you handle domestic matters on behalf of foreign clients' - the answer to which is yes.

Anyways it all seemed very strange. Excluding the hundreds of glaring issues, the guy is sending me an email from his hotmail account???!!!???

I did some quick research and soon discovered that this is money mule and/or laundering scam. Two things can ultimately happen.

1 - Soon after accepting the alleged retainer the debtor company mysteriously settles the account due to fear of litigation and the client notifies you of this but out of good will promises to pay your full fee. From here your firms trust account is either cleared out or you actually receive a cheque or cash payment which you are then expected to pay into the mystery chines clients account.

After a bit of back and forth I emailed him a link to a website and a newspaper article about the scam. Not as good as the Nigerian classic but not too bad either.

Apparently they do the same thing with job offers also. They claim they want to pay you for your flights to Hong Kong for training plus your first 3 months salary in advance - IF - you give them your banking details.
 
Anyone who gives anyone they don't know their bank details for any reason is pretty retarded. "It all seemed so plausible," the distraught bogans say to the 60 minutes camera.
 
Klue said:
This could be it's own thread easy peasy :)

The documentary you watched wasn't Cane Toads; An Unnatural history was it?

It's on youtube if you're interested here, it's pretty good. I watched it years ago [1988] it talks a lot about people running them over, and especially this classic scene with this guy in a combi showing him running over hundreds of them! That's the scene that sticks in my mind. I live right near the Queensland border to the south and it's nothing like that here, but in North QLD where all the Cane is I'd imagine it's still like that. They are pretty bad here, but not that bad!
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Yup, that's the one we watched. Its a fairly old movie, older than me at least which is yet another reason I was curious to see if they had resolved the problem at all or if people still swerve all over to hit the toads.
As a gardener you probably have even more reason to hate them.

Klue said:
Amanda is legit, A.Ok and the bomb.com :)
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<3 Klue

lostpunk5545 said:
Dear amandas, in university last year I had a really interesting guest lecture, by a biologist who has worked on cane toads and their impact on native fauna, about the cane toad problem in general and how they're evolving as the spread across the continent. It's like an hour long and the guy was really informative and charismatic. If you'd like to listen to it PM me and I'll upload it to somewhere and give you a link.

In 2007 I went to Katherine and in the 3 years or so since I had last been in the NT they had reached Darwin and spread down to Katherine. A friend who I was camping with in a national park and I got really drunk and went around spotlighting them then executing them with a wine bottle. It was pretty fun. Yes, I am a horrible vegetarian but I prioritise native fauna over a cane toad anyday (I also poison rabbits and foxes at work).

For the record the threat is not exagerrated at all. Once they move in to an area there is a huge amount of native fauna that go missing. They eat the young of many species, (bird, mammal, reptile), they eat frogs. Plus larger carnivores such as certain birds and lizards like goannas eat them and die (cane toads are poisonous to them).

Cunt of a species.
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Haha, you were only smashing them with bottles not eating them. That seems to be vegetarian to me.
That's what I've noticed and was brought up in the video, the toads can't be eaten but they will eat everything. The population started with just over a hundred if I recall correctly and now are they something you see on a daily basis?
You said foxes and rabbits? Those were both species introduced by people that decimated the native species. Do people just not understand the risks?
 
Well I'm a vegetarian for ethical reasons, so maybe not :)

Cane toads are not something that I see personally on a daily basis, I live in Sydney and they haven't made it this far south.

People nowadays understand the risk of introducing species, well besides our agricultural departments who seem to be keen to introduce new grasses to solve problems (drought etc.) regularly for the poor old farmers (who've raped this country to death), when already a large proportion of grasses introduced for agriculture are now noxious, invasive weeds of bushland.

As for rabbits, they were brought to Australia with the first fleet, assumedly as food. Foxes were introduced by pompous arseholes who couldn't give up their love of the great english hunt and wanted something they were familiar with to shoot (there's plenty of native animals they could have shot).

In the past, people both didn't understand the risk, and didn't care. You've got to understand that this country was colonised by people who considered this country a living hell compared to verdant England. They never understood the beauty of the Australian landscape, or flora and fauna, just reacted to their harshness. There was a few people who did love it for what it was (Joseph Banks etc.) but they were few and far between. This country was an opportunity for some, and an escape for others, but most didn't want to be here and wanted to bring a bit of Dear Old England with them. It was founded as a penal country so the first people here were either convicts or pompous hard arse bastards sent here to look after them (bringing their families etc.). Everything else sprung up around that.

You've also got to think of it in terms that people have been living in England for thousands of years. People weren't constantly turning up in England bringing invasive pests. English people didn't understand anything to do with environmental degradation, they had pre-conceived ideals of agriculture that were never suited for this continent, and never will be. The indigenous people lived (relatively) in harmony with this country because for them, it was a matter of life and death. If they didn't respect the country, they starved, they lived off the land and its many boom and bust natural cycles.

It's been two hundred plus years of not caring, and not knowing shit.

If you're really interested, read this book:

http://www.weedinfo.com.au/bk_feral.html

This is an excerpt from Tim Flannery's Future Eaters, also a great book which many people should read (http://www.amazon.com/Future-Eaters-Ecological-History-Australasian/dp/0802139434) which sums up the ignorance and problems:

The philosophy of people who had cost the land so much was recorded by Ratcliffe on several occasions, but never so strikingly as during his visit to Yudnapinna, north-west of Port Augusta. Mr Patton, the station manager there, bade Ratcliffe to look at the pictures hanging on the walls of the station house, saying:

'They are symbolic. On this side you see how we make our money, and on this how we spend it.' Round the right hand walls were photographs of stud rams and ewes... [while] on the left hand wall were pictures of racehorses.

I quiver with rage when I think that it was for racehorses that the Yawarawarka and Dieri people of South Australia were barbarically slaughtered and their cultures destroyed. It was only for this that future Australians were deprived of 23 species of native mammals, all driven to extinction in our dry country. And it was for nothing more than this that the very soil of South Australia itself was lost, never to be replaced. The deserted and desolated wastes of this pastoral country, much of it relinquished by leaseholders, is a pathetic monument to extraordinary folly.
 
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^ Tim Flannery want's to bring Komodo Dragons into Australia to eat feral cats/foxes/dogs :D

You read that other Tim Low book "The New Nature" yet lostpunk? It's about how some Australian flora and fauna are doing better in urban places than they are in the bush.


when already a large proportion of grasses introduced for agriculture are now noxious, invasive weeds of bushland.
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So you know that a Noxious weed is a weed to Agricultural production, and control can be enforced legally. But, an Environmental weed is a weed that's invasive to bushland? Look up the definitions. Noxious weeds are a problem in the bush, but it just shows how we value things as a society. Just being a bit pedantic for your own sake, look up the definitions. I don't think many, if any pasture grasses are considered 'noxious'.

:)
 
I know the definitions for how a plant is considered noxious. I typed that all out rather quickly without thinking, you know, fingers flying.

And yeah the Tim Low book is the first link I posted. I read it on your advice and it was fantastic.

Also I'm pretty sure Flannery offers bizarre solutions to a lot of problems in order to generate discussion. I don't think he literally means he is in favour of introducing komodo dragons.
 
^ It's the follow up to that book.

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You're drunk aren't you ;) ;)
 
jesus christ there are some long posts in this thread on this page

im awake on a saturday the time i would be awake on the weekday

this sucks!
 
Haha sorry Klue I must have just say Tim Low in that sentence and not registered the rest of it. Insomnia all week and spent yesterday clearing a fire break for am eco burn. My brain and body were shot to shit :)

Have not read that book but I'll check it out. Looks good!
 
^ I didn't know you were a mac man, I'd love a mac to fiddle around with! Even Widows 7 would be cool to much around with, I'm stuck on XP.


I'm designing a CD mixtape for a friend of mine, here is the tracklist.

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Recon they might like it? %)
 
^ yep, have been for years since the old Apple IIe clunker and the Macintosh Plus that we couldn't play games on.

I use PC's at work and Mac at home, keeps that whole seperation vibe in the mindspace

If you get a mac try Camino, its better than Safari
 
Windows 7 sucks when you first convert from XP... but then you learn to love it

its awesome...

if you have a good powerful machine to run, its even better.
 
^ Have I noticed that processors haven't really got faster over the last few years and it's the RAM that's increasing in basic pc's? My pc is about 5 years old and it's just as good as it ever was, even when I got more RAM added. I'm thinking about getting duel monitors to play around with, and maybe a laptop.
 
7 relies on having a lot of RAM to support it, i used 7 on a piece of crap laptop that had just a GB and the required amount for the processor... it sucked ass, thank god i was only running it for training.

Lol, that laptop now has windows server 2003 on it and it works fine

i installed a windows server 2008 machine today... its about time my work started forking out money for new hardware

12GB ram
2 x 2.something dual-core processors
2.4TB of HDD

when it starts up, it sounds better than a hotted up civic.

this is so sad, but i cant wait to get back to work tomorrow and play with it more.
 
ch0psy said:
7 relies on having a lot of RAM to support it, i used 7 on a piece of crap laptop that had just a GB and the required amount for the processor... it sucked ass, thank god i was only running it for training.

Lol, that laptop now has windows server 2003 on it and it works fine

i installed a windows server 2008 machine today... its about time my work started forking out money for new hardware

12GB ram
2 x 2.something dual-core processors
2.4TB of HDD

when it starts up, it sounds better than a hotted up civic.

this is so sad, but i cant wait to get back to work tomorrow and play with it more.
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Nerd much!!!! ;)
 
^ Just what I was thinking :D


That is a fricken huge HDD. I've got a solid state 128GB, love it. I'd much rather have solid state drive even if it is a bit small.


In other news, I had solar panels installed on my roof this week. Call me a hippie if you must.
 
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