The Big & Dandy MDAI Thread

[Black]

Be careful guys, I ordered 1g of 'MDAI' online just last week and got an unlabeled bag of coarse white powder/crystals. It smelt familiar, and after a line I realised my fear and it was Mcat (I'm 99% sure anyway). I'm shocked and a little disappointed to get this being passed off as MDAI, especially after the ban.

the obvious answer to this one is: get a test kit!
marquis reagent is only 20€ and gives a dark red reaction for mdai and some fizzling and pale yellow (iirc) for meph.

 

[trancerage]

in the US, any substance that is represented as a drug (sold for human ingestion) can be illegal under the analog act. if you sell a bag of 100% pure table salt and call it cocaine, you can get jail time.

the structure of MDAI is not specifically outlined as a controlled substance. technically speaking, it has the same number of carbon atoms as MDA, just missing two hydrogen atoms thanks to the ring closure which puts it in a new chemical family (indane instead of PEA)

thanx man, now the question is, If im on the states, can I buy it online and wont be ilegal? would it get throught the customs??? and the most important thing, could I get in trouble for it???

I know thats too many question, but like I said before, couldnt find anything about it...

Thanx for the time again...

 

[7zark7]

Since most reports and experiences of MDAI on here seem to involve a combination of drugs via unknown routes of administration, I thought I should do a little test myself.

MDAI was supplied as a fine light-brown powder. Faint smell of something familiar that I couldn't put my finger on. Odd taste too - not all that 'chemically' - which I would have expected…

T+0mins: 40mg MDAI intranasal - Slight mood lift. Possible placebo?

T+90mins: 70mg MDAI intranasal - Slight mood lift - although more noticeable than 40mg.

So first experiences were nothing to write home about. Might consider trying again and upping the dose at some point in the future. I have the feeling that it's not ever going to be anything special thoguh - that's if I have been supplied the correct substance!

 

[any major dude]

snorting doesn't seem to be as effective with this compound, or at least the freebase. Not sure about the hcl. Which is what it sounds like you have (tan instead of brown). IMO, it starts to show some interesting activity at around 120mg oral. However, its a rather subtle drug, and like you said, nothing to write home about.. Combined with a good stimulant however......

 

[Shambles]

I agree that snorting it is both vile and ineffective. Oral and IV work just fine, no idea about plugged so far.

 

[polidelaiko]

How is IV like?

 

[Shambles]

I rather liked it. Felt almost like low-dose MDMA. Described it briefly here.

 

[7zark7]

snorting doesn't seem to be as effective with this compound, or at least the freebase. Not sure about the hcl. Which is what it sounds like you have (tan instead of brown). IMO, it starts to show some interesting activity at around 120mg oral. However, its a rather subtle drug, and like you said, nothing to write home about..

Going on what other people have said above and the appearance of the substance, I assumed that I had the HCl - which is why I tried snorting it.

I was anticipating a subtle experience, but still expected more up-lift in my mood. Didn't really get an 'alert' - so still not totally convinced it was anything more than just my good mood at the time.

After reading what you and Shambles have posted, I will try it orally next time. Just got to decide on what dosage… was considering 150mg - maybe 200mg - or maybe somewhere in between!

 

[info.trance]

read my reports

160 mg good threshold dose
250 mg is considered a high dose - dont go above this or risk something stupid happening.

The above benchmarks were the consensus in our group there are 12 of us

Next point PLEASE PLEASE HEED THIS WARNING - THE NEW DARK BROWN HCL SALT IS NOT IN FACT 97.9% PURE OR WHAT EVER THE VENDOR SAYS IT IS . I CURRENTLY HAVE SOMEONE DOING A CLEAN UP FOR ME AND AT LAST RUN I ONLY HAD 50% MATERIAL LEFT. I WILL BE GOING TO THE VENDOR WITH SAID INFORMATION.

WE DONT KNOW WHAT BY PRODUCTS HAVE BEEN LEFT IN THIS BUT AT THAT PURITY I AM VERY VERY CONCERNED.

I will post up my findings as soon as the MDAI is cleaned up. Think twice about injesting/injecting this version of MDAI

 

[TheAzo]

read my reports

160 mg good threshold dose
250 mg is considered a high dose - dont go above this or risk something stupid happening.

The above benchmarks were the consensus in our group there are 12 of us

Next point PLEASE PLEASE HEED THIS WARNING - THE NEW DARK BROWN HCL SALT IS NOT IN FACT 97.9% PURE OR WHAT EVER THE VENDOR SAYS IT IS . I CURRENTLY HAVE SOMEONE DOING A CLEAN UP FOR ME AND AT LAST RUN I ONLY HAD 50% MATERIAL LEFT. I WILL BE GOING TO THE VENDOR WITH SAID INFORMATION.

WE DONT KNOW WHAT BY PRODUCTS HAVE BEEN LEFT IN THIS BUT AT THAT PURITY I AM VERY VERY CONCERNED.

I will post up my findings as soon as the MDAI is cleaned up. Think twice about injesting/injecting this version of MDAI

Yeah... that vendor's first batch was great, now they're selling 50% pure dogshit. 50% is about what i got from the freebase, too. Oh well, clean stuff is coming...

 

[dc710]

Just received some MDAI today from a seemingly legit vendor this time (after a previous dodgy as fuck shady vendor sending me Mcat last week!).

Ok so it's not dog shit brown colour, not even a light tan but an off white powder with possibly even a slight pink-ink tinge (?!). Is this MDAI or what? I don't have a test kit handy. Spose I'll give it a test run this weekend Being careful of course. Btw the stuff is labelled MDAI/'sparkle'. And it is indeed slightly sparkley lol

 

[methad1]

Tried some MDAI last weekend - not bad, but not great.

Arrived half brown powder half white. Tried a small dab in the morning of both powders (before shaking baggy and making a tan colour). Brown was salty - white made lips go numb (wondering if it had been cut with Benzocaine as supplier sold mainly MDAI and Benzo?).

1830: first 50mg line - smells and tastes horrible, hurts like hell up nose!
1930: 100mg - jigging around kitchen to music
2000: Walked dogs to a lake, drink some cider, watching the sun go down, chatting to a friend (which would of been nice anyway). Another 100mg. Conversation revolves around religion (cliche?) - but enjoyable and clear headed. Took lots of sunset pictures!
2100 - 0000: At local social club, felt ok, chatty. Urges to redose become more apparent as time goes on. Probably doing 100mg an hour(ish).
0000 - 0300: bit drunk, in kitchen, enjoying music with friends. Again, approx 100mg an hour if I remember correctly.
0300: Run out! Would of liked more (5g used between 4 of us), but don't get that horrible feeling I used to get from coke/meph when I ran out.
0400: After taking sleeping pill fell asleep on couch for about 5 hours

Next day felt ok - moved a plant pot in the garden which lead to a full day of gardening in the sun. Have been quite tired since weekend though....?

Hard to describe the feeling - just a chatty, 'nice' feeling. Don't know how much was down to MDAI and how much was drink or placebo effect of shoving something up my nose. Also after getting a 'buzzy' felling half way through the night, started to get urges to redose trying to chase that buzz. Not really a clubbing aid - more a 'sit at home with friends' aid. Also - had a funny 'cheesey' smell up my nose the next morning


Think I'm going to try again this weekend from different supplier as I'm camping over the weekend and it'll be a nice thing to have to sit around a fire with.

I don't think the product I received was very pure so I will be starting off again with smaller doses.

I'll give a comparison report soon (and also maybe a MDAT too).

 

[Shambles]

1830: first 50mg line - smells and tastes horrible, hurts like hell up nose!

I really wouldn't recommend snorting it cos it's vile snorted - as you noticed. Works just fine orally. Actually works better orally, I'd say... although snorting it was too horrid to try often enough to compare properly, I suppose. Given the effects of the stuff you really aren't going to be getting any higher by snorting it anyway - if it were my nose I'd save it for something it likes better or at least loathes less. 'Snot my nose but I'd still recommend just bombing it.

 

[naginnudej]

So what's the final consensus on how best to clean this stuff?

 

[change-jug]

I just ordered some of this from a US dealer and should be getting it soon. I`m interested to see how it is and what my girlfriend and I can gain from this substance. We plan on trying it by itself first and them getting a hold of some ritalin or adderall and mixing the two at a later time.
I will share the details soon!

 

[Dreamatone]

so what's the final consensus on how best to clean this stuff?

cwe?

 

[naginnudej]

cwe?

Don't think that would work.

Here is TheAzo's method:

. After working over 3.9 grams of it as supplied, (multiple extractions with hot heptane, evaporation of solvent), i was left with 2.15g of not-MDAI. About 1.5g of MDAI (off white powder, brilliant white after recrystalation, with the rest lost to mechanical losses (primarily minor spills of the solutions; glassware was rinsed with acetone to recover as much as possible).

THOSE BASTARDS WERE SELLING PRODUCT THAT IS LESS THAN 50% PURE WHILE CLAIMING 98.5%! WHAT THE FUCK?!

Guess I'm gonna give that a go. Shame it's such shite product.

 

[hopki1309]

I find MDAI is best used orally bombed in a rizla 125mg then i redose after about an hour with the same again.Its not a go out RC but more a stay in and chill.Also i have no problems going to sleep after using i just pop a few sleeping pills and away i go

 

[BobWeir'd]

Hi this is my first post on Bluelight.

I have some MDAI on the way and my friend has some decent quality Cocaine.

Any thoughts on how combining the 2 might turn out? We like the sound of most of the trip reports reference MDAI but due to the fact we have a DJing / party session planned we wondered if the combo would be good as in the MDAI helping with the music and the coke providing some stimulation.

Am I right in saying Cocaine effects Dopamine which MDAI doesn't so on that basis the 2 should work maybe? I'm not too clued up in chemical compounds and science but we do have plenty of experience with taking different drugs for clubbing / home party type scenarios.

Didn't fancy NRG1 and Coke just doesn't do it music wise like other stuff. Your thoughts appreciated.

 

[Shambles]

Sounds like it would be a good combo to me. Other dopaminergics (MDPV and methylphenidate, from memory) seem to mix well with MDAI so, other than standard coke-stuff (fiending and such) I don't see that coke would be any different. Enjoy and please report back if you do combo them cos more info, experience and reports are always a good thing.

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