Klonopin and Concerta?

[RossettaStoned]

[First post here, my concerns were rejected on other forums so I brought it here.]
I was prescribed 1 (0.5mg) k-pin at night and 1 for the morning about 3 weeks ago. I have extreme social anxiety and also suffering from depression(prescribed prozac) and the k-pin's really help me . Though the problem Im having is I cant concentrate on work, which I have allot to do. (I fall asleep during the day from its drowsy effects and cant keep focused on a peice of paper..) So today I tried choppin up a Concerta I had, I snorted a little and ate the rest without the time release shit. I got pretty cought up on my work today, a little more focused, yet still a little drowsy. It seemed the k-pin didnt have its effect on me for anxiety but I was still pretty tired, yet focused enough to get allot of work done.
So im asking, if anyone knows, if its safe to mix these upper downers; do they effect eachother? (overpower the other) or just mix in a good/bad way? Any info is appreciated.

 

[Cane2theLeft]

Questions simply about combining two drugs are generally directed to Basic Drug Discussion... good luck, OP.

If you are struggling with your depression and anxiety, I also highly recommend you check out The Dark Side forum... amazing staff and lots of caring people that want to help and can offer support. Its an amazing place.

---> BDD

 

[RossettaStoned]

Questions simply about combining two drugs are generally directed to Basic Drug Discussion... good luck, OP.

If you are struggling with your depression and anxiety, I also highly recommend you check out The Dark Side forum... amazing staff and lots of caring people that want to help and can offer support. Its an amazing place.

---> BDD

Thanks, I think that would help me out. Ill go check it out.

 

[RossettaStoned]

Thanks for the recommendation. Im not feeling overly suicidal or depressed at the moment, Im just having allot of trouble catching up in school. I just got out of In-patient/Out-patient about a week ago and I was in there for a month. Now I have a 3 inch stack of papers, if I can get some work done I may be able to get a few credits before this year ends (in 6 days)
Im no longer prescribed the concerta but Ive been snorting/popping the few I had leftover quite a bit lately, and I only have 1 left ):
I really think I need these to get caught up, but would also like to not deal with anxiety at school..

 

[JamtasticX]

Klonopin works by affecting GABA receptors, concerta works on dopamine receptors. So I would doubt that they would "cancel" out the effects. However, concerta may cause additionally anxiety, which your dose of klonopin might not be able to handle.

Raising the doseage of klonopin while using conerta may relieve the anxiety, but if you are still finding yourself sleepy, you're in a bit of a catch 22. Perhaps a different drug combination, such as switching the klonopin for a short acting benzo such as xanax, or switching conerta for a different formulation of it's isomers, or adderall, and likewise a different formulation of the various salts in adderall.

I wonder which site you weren't allow to post this question in hmm....

 

[RossettaStoned]

Klonopin works by affecting GABA receptors, concerta works on dopamine receptors. So I would doubt that they would "cancel" out the effects. However, concerta may cause additionally anxiety, which your dose of klonopin might not be able to handle.

Raising the doseage of klonopin while using conerta may relieve the anxiety, but if you are still finding yourself sleepy, you're in a bit of a catch 22. Perhaps a different drug combination, such as switching the klonopin for a short acting benzo such as xanax, or switching conerta for a different formulation of it's isomers, or adderall, and likewise a different formulation of the various salts in adderall.

I wonder which site you weren't allow to post this question in hmm....

Ok great, yes I was planning on getting it switched to xanax but for now that info is very helpful.

And I had found the site grassicity from googling such things as concerta and klonopin yet when I posted this thread in the appropriate forum it got deleted reason being they don't allow threads of drugs other than canabis... I'm like wtf are you serious? Bluelight is a way better choice.

 

[RossettaStoned]

Ok so today I popped 1 of my k-pins then took half of another sublingually; cut up a certa and just popped half (no time release). I was feeling GREAAAAT all day long. Got real caught up on work, staying focused, and no anxiety. Made some new friends, started talking to people, it was a great day. I think I got this med balance figured out. Thank you so much for the info, tho I think I wont take the k-pins at night. I cannot wake up in the morning cause its halflife is so damn long I feel like I need to plan an 18 hour sleep if I take one before bed..

 

[JamtasticX]

Ok so today I popped 1 of my k-pins then took half of another sublingually; cut up a certa and just popped half (no time release). I was feeling GREAAAAT all day long. Got real caught up on work, staying focused, and no anxiety. Made some new friends, started talking to people, it was a great day. I think I got this med balance figured out. Thank you so much for the info, tho I think I wont take the k-pins at night. I cannot wake up in the morning cause its halflife is so damn long I feel like I need to plan an 18 hour sleep if I take one before bed..

Just so you know, there's no difference between sublingual and oral kpins. Only difference is you might feel sublingual faster. KPin is rapibly absorbed through the stomach lining, and even if it didn't, the metabolite of clonazepam, 6-clonazepam is also an ACTIVE benzo, so with benzo's it doesn't matter that much, but it matters even less with kpins lol

Happy you found a good combo. It's a good thing that you don't have the stupid time released concerta, which are a pain in the ass to get all at once because of their stupid spounge/rock hard shell. (It can be done pretty easily, it's just a pain), and if you didn't take the time release off, I bet you would need to take another KPin to put you down at night. I think w/o the time release you should be good for falling asleep, and enough time for the kpin to no longer make you drowsy.

 

[Alcyone]

KPin is rapibly absorbed through the stomach lining, and even if it didn't, the metabolite of clonazepam, 6-clonazepam is also an ACTIVE benzo, so with benzo's it doesn't matter that much, but it matters even less with kpins lol

Not that it really matters, but there's no such thing as "6-clonazepam". Clonazepam's major metabolites are 7-aminoclonazepam, 7-acetamidoclonazepam and 3-hydroxyclonazepam. The former two are essentially inactive, whereas the latter is probably slightly active but is formed in very small amounts.

I agree with you in principle, though. Benzodiazepines generally have great bioavailability and a fairly rapid onset by the oral route.

 

[RossettaStoned]

Just so you know, there's no difference between sublingual and oral kpins. Only difference is you might feel sublingual faster. KPin is rapibly absorbed through the stomach lining, and even if it didn't, the metabolite of clonazepam, 6-clonazepam is also an ACTIVE benzo, so with benzo's it doesn't matter that much, but it matters even less with kpins lol

Happy you found a good combo. It's a good thing that you don't have the stupid time released concerta, which are a pain in the ass to get all at once because of their stupid spounge/rock hard shell. (It can be done pretty easily, it's just a pain), and if you didn't take the time release off, I bet you would need to take another KPin to put you down at night. I think w/o the time release you should be good for falling asleep, and enough time for the kpin to no longer make you drowsy.

No I do have those time released 12hr concertas (36mg) and it IS a bitch to take apart.. only problem is I really need these, enless I get a good 12 hours of sleep tonight, I only have half of 1 certa left. ):

But I kinda feel it a bit faster kick taking sublingually with the k-pin but you're right it doesnt make much of a difference. Does crushed powder from the certa's take sublingually? I was just wondering that, thinking if it would help hit faster or work stronger..

 

[JamtasticX]

Not that it really matters, but there's no such thing as "6-clonazepam". Clonazepam's major metabolites are 7-aminoclonazepam, 7-acetamidoclonazepam and 3-hydroxyclonazepam. The former two are essentially inactive, whereas the latter is probably slightly active but is formed in very small amounts.

I agree with you in principle, though. Benzodiazepines generally have great bioavailability and a fairly rapid onset by the oral route.

I know that I read that somewhere, I'll try to find the source. Not saying your wrong or I'm right, just saying that I know I've read it, which is why I've always thought that.

No I do have those time released 12hr concertas (36mg) and it IS a bitch to take apart.. only problem is I really need these, enless I get a good 12 hours of sleep tonight, I only have half of 1 certa left. ):

But I kinda feel it a bit faster kick taking sublingually with the k-pin but you're right it doesnt make much of a difference. Does crushed powder from the certa's take sublingually? I was just wondering that, thinking if it would help hit faster or work stronger..

Yea, you can take concerta sublingually, it's freely soluable in water. You could also sniff it, plug it, or shoot it(if filtered)

 

[RossettaStoned]

Yea, you can take concerta sublingually, it's freely soluable in water. You could also sniff it, plug it, or shoot it(if filtered)

Ive snorted and it hits me good but Im wondering if it will hit me harder/faster? also that waxy shit thats under the coating is always a bitch to take off and when I snort it its like nasty glue shit in my nose but I just give I good snort and its like taking another hit. But any onset benifits to taking certa sublingually?
Also just got a hook up for some Ritalin. Trading a guy 5 k-pins for 5 Ritalin.
Ive never taken ritalin before but I get its basicly the same thing I need to stay focused..

 

[JamtasticX]

Ive snorted and it hits me good but Im wondering if it will hit me harder/faster? also that waxy shit thats under the coating is always a bitch to take off and when I snort it its like nasty glue shit in my nose but I just give I good snort and its like taking another hit. But any onset benifits to taking certa sublingually?
Also just got a hook up for some Ritalin. Trading a guy 5 k-pins for 5 Ritalin.
Ive never taken ritalin before but I get its basicly the same thing I need to stay focused..

5Kins for 5 ritalin seems like a better deal for the guy getting the KPins, jut imp I like KPin more.

Do you have the concerta with a roc.

I also believe, that the BA of snorting is always higher or equal to that of eating. Anything that doesn't get absorbed drops into stomach, which may bee absorbed. There my be better ROA.

Also, the concerta you have. Is it a rock hard pill with a small paint like coating you can remove, then the rock hard pill, with 3 diff colors insde (cause some people to say american flag). One of the colors is a sponge, which when absorbs water, stomach acid, whatever, will expand and push the ritalin out the hole. You do NOT want to sniff this sponge.

If you let it sit in water for a few days, the spounge will push it out, remove the spounge (you could eat it/w pill if you wanted I guess, not the best idea.) Also, if you put them in hot water, in the microwave it can be out much faster, which is what I always did, and it makes the shell soft so you can cut it open that wat I always did.

Sorry, I'm really tired and exhausted from the night before, if I made mistakes someone better at me please correct me and I will fix them ASAP