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When will shit stop moving? (been 5 months, with anxieties)

Try not to get overly stressed about, and hopefully it will begin to fade. I usually get a bit of HPPD after using psychedelics semi-regularly and it always resolves itself. With me it takes about 6 months to a year at the very most.

I've never really found it stressful, I actually don't mind it at all. I think the anxiety is probably what's prolonging it for you, as anxiety by itself can cause pretty large shifts in consciousness if you're having a panic attack or just highly stressed. It can even cause perceptual distortions.
 
Let's not assume the OP took real LSD.

Remember, there is more bunk LSD being sold today than ANY other time. Look at the DEA's website. MOST of the recent "blotters" and "liquid on candy" has been DOI, DOB, DOC, AMT and 5meo-AMT.

There was even a cocktail that contained BOTH, yes BOTH DOI and DOC....

I know exactly what the OP is talking about. He isn't talking about the after-effects of an LSD trip. What I think he is experiencing is the after-effects of RC's sold as LSD.

Same thing happened/is happeneing to me right now. Ever since I took "bad acid"(which I found out later was an RC called DOx) I get anxiety and feelings of "yucky" when I look at certain things. White walls are disgusting looking, it's like I notice too much detail instead of just seeing a white wall.

It feels like I'm kinda outta sorts, the visuals are not beautiful like LSD. Rather the "patterns" and stuff I'm seeing are reminiscant of DOx visuals...which aren't particularly interesting nor beautiful.

To the OP: Eat healthy, try meditation. Don't take LSD unless you are 100% it's the good stuff. No one gets depressed after LSD. It's safer than you guys think.

Most bad trips where people are "fucked for life" are not after taking LSD. Rather it's the RC's.

A college student I knew went INSANE after taking what he thought was LSD. I ended up taking the same blotter and I swear I haven't been the same since.


BE CAREFUL!

The reason why people always get fucked over by "acid" and not mushrooms is because you didn't get "acid" in the first place.

LSD is a beautiful thing that is hard to fuck up, when you get DOx....well yea you fucked up.
 
ive read all of these responses and they've really helped. thanks to everyone who responded

Let me ask you why did you take acid? just for fun or did you want to open up your mind?

First time i took it just for the hell of it, for fun, to fit in, and curiosity. I took it a second time after doing a lot of reading and trying to understand why i had a bad experience at points during the trip, and the second time was amazing. it did really open my mind...i basically used it to sort out all of my problems in my head (i was able to do this amazingly..so at the end of the trip i sorta understood everything about myself). And also of course i kept doing it for that reason, as well as the cool effects it had (i loved the hd effect). i guess i sorta still appreciate that effect, but during night time i have trouble seeing, which is annoying.


But to the guy who said i didnt take real acid, im not sure what to think of that. it almost makes me want to take 'real' acid...but i think ive already determined it was acid. simply cuz my roomate when i first met him he said he loves acid. so naturally when there were a couple guys selling acid on campus, it was just that .. 'acid' and he would take it and call it acid (and he obviously knew what it was cuz hes taken every drug under the sun). he called it acid and so did everyone else taking it (and theyre all druggies so they know the differences)
 
I don't have any acid experience, but I have a little bit with RCs. Something interesting I noticed is this:

When my girlfriend and I did 2-C-T-2, we had an incredible time. Truly one of the best experiences of any kind, drugs or otherwise, in my life. We woke up the next day and felt incredible and totally normal.

One of my best friends took the same dose from the same batch. He started blaming his allergies, a cold he got, "brain fog", tiredness, etc. etc. etc. on the drug.

This reminded me of a story about LSD testing in the 60s or 70s. The experience was so powerful for some people that they attributed all kinds of things to it. I think a Chinese girl claimed it made her paralyzed from the waist down?

So my point was just that sometimes the experience can be so incredible and so overpowering that you can't integrate it well, and you start to attribute things to it that aren't necessarily from it. It might be that your vision always did that, but before, since you didn't think you had done any damage to yourself, you would just blink or refocus your eyes or not even notice it. You probably noticed these effects in the extreme during your trip as they were probably amplified. Now whenever you see what may have been normal before, you attribute it to the drugs. I'm not saying that's the case with you, but it's something to think about.

That being said it's only been five months. I think that if you stay clean, don't take any drugs (even weed), take care of your body, and immerse yourself heavily into school or work or whatever hobby you may have, in a year you won't even remember what you were worried about.

No matter what, good luck friend!
 
I have had a similar experience:

I used psychedelics every weekend for a year in 2008, then I switched to once a month. I now wake up sometimes with trails and things seem to be moving slowly. I also go outside sometimes and see a multicolored sky and I randomly see things moving and things that are not there.

I did, however, find a medication that made it worse, and one that made it better. I was on Geodon, an atypical anti-psychotic and it added to the trip like effect and hallucinations, and I am on Celexa (citalopram), and SSRI, which has helped me more than any other medicine I've ever been on for depression and anxiety. I now see things the way they used to be, before I started using drugs everyday.
 
Also I get annoying after-images when shifting my vision from a light source (example: look at tv, then at the wall, its still bright and i can still see a shadow of what i just saw on tv..especially during the night)

That can be attributed to persistence of vision. The acid has probably made you more aware of this phenomenon, as I know it's done for me.

As for the flashing light, it's taken place in various spots. The first time I noticed it, it was a red flash (strobelight-ish) imposed on a wall or some other object on the outer edges of my vision, in the near-total darkness of night. The other time, it was the whitish-blue I mentioned earlier, except I was reading in my room with the light still on.

These flashbacks don't bother me too much, I look at them as amusing distractions, a kind of way to nostalgically remember how acid was. However, it does bug me when I look up at the few stars I can see, because I can never tell what's supposed to be moving (ie airplanes/satellites/meteors) and what's supposed to be fixed (unless, of course, I know the star by name, few of which I do) in place.
 
I've done acid 6 times last semester (from oct - dec), all being small doses each time (1-3 tabs). I've also done mushrooms 3 times in that same period, (about 1/4oz together). I was doing these I guess you could say every other weekend, just about.

Ever since I'd say the night i did 3 tabs, i dont think ive fully come down. Things looked really 'high-def' outside for 1-2 months. That's sort of died down now, but still when im outside its really not the same. Sure it looks a little better (everything seems wider, a little disproportioned distance between objects, filled w/ color..), but it's different and I miss how things are supposed to look. Everytime i walk outside i think im on acid or something...i know life isnt supposed to look like this. and i think about it everytime i walk outside...and inside. my room looks different and its not the same. i just want to return to how things should be

when i stare at something for a few seconds, things start moving slightly. I'm not sure if you would call these flashbacks, because I can basically make it happen EVERYTIME i stare at something, whatever it is (i do it more indoors). even if im not trying it will happen sometimes. I'll find myself staring at shit watching it move, wondering when this will go away. It is worse in the dark (and ive also seemed to have really lost my night vision..).

Also I seem to see white noise (like when looking at the white wall across my room, i dont see a solid white, i see 'white noise'). This bothers me too.

so it seems to be 'stuff moving' indoors, and 'whoa things are still in HD like im on acid' outdoors, which constantly makes me think about acid. is this just a form of psychosis?


These things give me anxiety and I really wish I never took acid in the first place. I feel like I'm not longer the same person....instead im a complelty different person, or just a 'nothing' now that ive taken this drug (im pretty sure its the acid that has done this, not mushrooms btw)

During winter break I had an episode of depression, and i believe it was because of this. I slept 12 hours a day, and all i could think about is how shit was still in hd, things are moving and how ive ruined my life.

I guess my symptoms relate to hppd, but im unsure. I figure I wouldn't get it cuz im not doing high doses. It SEEMS to have slowly died down after 5 months (its definitely still there), but maybe im just becoming more adjusted to it. Is that normal to still have affects that long after (by normal, i mean NOT attributed to hppd). its pretty easy to 'reproduce a flashback'. all i need to do is stare at letters on my screen and then suddenly theyll sort of be swaying around slightly.


I guess this isn't really anything to cry about compared to ppl who ACTUALLY have hppd bad, which i dont think id be able to ever handle, so props to them. I just maybe need some support. even though i was more depressed/anxious in my high school years (16-17) before i did drugs than i am now (18 ), i think id go back in time and never even start, just so i wouldnt have these anxieties about it (ive thought about acid every single day since i stopped using....i cant get it out of my head cuz its everywhere (in my vision))

ive felt pretty alone about this. i live w/ my family and ive never told them about my drug uses, im not sure how they will take it. everytime i got in the car w/ my mom i wanted to tell her that ive done acid (she has told me that shes done it) but i think she would just be disappointed and things might be awkward. (and of course she'll tell my dad). i really for some reason feel like i need to 'get it off my chest' and tell my family that ive done acid 6 times and shrooms 3 times, but they willl probably never look at me the same (i dont look at myself the same)....just so i dont feel like im hiding anything (hiding these anxieties). or maybe im just a sissy who has to tell mommy everything

You aren't suffering from HPPD; everyone who has experience with psychedelics or meditation lives in this new reality you find yourself in. The way you experienced the world before was not normal; you can't go back to it; you had been seeing the world in a narrowly inaccurate childish way until now. Now your eyes are a little more open.
 
Remember, there is more bunk LSD being sold today than ANY other time. Look at the DEA's website. MOST of the recent "blotters" and "liquid on candy" has been DOI, DOB, DOC, AMT and 5meo-AMT.

Bull fucking shit. There's no evidence to back your claim up that there's more bunk LSD being sold today.

Look at the DEA's website? Do you mean the DEA Microgram Journal? This is a journal where the articles are about novel drug smuggling or drug forensics techniques and discoveries. They don't fucking report on blotter found with LSD on it; they report on the weird shit. The Microgram Journal is not indicative of what the DEA is seizing on a regular basis; it's basically the opposite of what they see regularly.
 
Everybody has these visual distortion but the brain normally filters them out. The acid has just drawn you attention to them and now your conscius of them you are unable to filter them out. If you stop worrying about them it will go and you will ingonore them and start filtering them out again.

The exact same thing happened to me and until I read this thread I had forgotten about them but if I look at a white wall I now notice this hazyness I get on them now you have drawn my attention to them. I also have a stignatism which makes it worse.

Don't worry about them and you won't see them. People who don't take pschedelics get the same, if you ask them to stare at something fo a long time they will see and probably say'oh yeah, I never nopticed that before'. It's just people who don't take acid don't worry about and why should they?
 
thanks everyone. your responses have continued to comfort and support me. I think i've come to the conclusion that im simply depressed/anxious (and sometimes paranoid), so these little 'flashbacks' that im experiencing are bothering me. I KNOW i suffer (or at least suffered) from both some form of depression and anxiety for a few years, but have simply never bothered to get help (well my parents sorta ignored me about it, but thats a completely different story). so some of it is still lingering inside me, but im just so numb from it now that i feel nothing

i think when im finally fixed and naturally relaxed and happy, these little movements will not even bother me, because sometimes i like them and laugh at them. and ive noticed that they are slowly fading away, anyways. i do believe that im attributing some of these experiences to my acid use, but unfortunately thats how my mind works (same way my mind always has to be something .. such as a certain girl might always be on my mind for months. some negative thought has always been on mind. this is this season's choice! lol) also my mind is always racing (this is normal for me). meaning i am always listening to myself talk in my head and/or a song is always playing. its been like this before the drugs, so all these constant, fast, paranoid self-thinking has just added on to this 'acid' problem. i know its getting a little off-topic but i know at least half of it is just all in my head..

this life is short and i shouldnt be stressing about these little things (things happen in your life that you can't help/are in the past.)

thanks for all the support again, i love you all :)
 
well ur not alone w/ that one, either. ive gotten that a few times. its rare and only seems to happen when suddenly go into complete darkness (turning off a light). Also I get annoying after-images when shifting my vision from a light source (example: look at tv, then at the wall, its still bright and i can still see a shadow of what i just saw on tv..especially during the night)

the elaborate morphing has died down, now its just slight moving/bending

I get these things on a regular basis but I have not yet tried acid and I never really associated it with drugs, although I did take mushrooms on several occasions back in winter and I smoke a lot of weed.
I just assumed it was a fairly normal thing, when you look at bright things and they leave a kind of indentation on your vision for a while. Like when you look at the sun briefly and when you look away you see a big round blue circle in front of your vision.
 
I get these things on a regular basis but I have not yet tried acid and I never really associated it with drugs, although I did take mushrooms on several occasions back in winter and I smoke a lot of weed.
I just assumed it was a fairly normal thing, when you look at bright things and they leave a kind of indentation on your vision for a while. Like when you look at the sun briefly and when you look away you see a big round blue circle in front of your vision.

oh yes, that is very normal. ive had that before i ever tried drugs. probably a lot of things im seeing now i had before drugs, but i just dont remember it, as other ppl have said, and im just associating it w/ that. anyways its nothing to worry about. and same to me and everyone else w/ these slight stupid vision problems :P
 
You aren't suffering from HPPD; everyone who has experience with psychedelics or meditation lives in this new reality you find yourself in. The way you experienced the world before was not normal; you can't go back to it; you had been seeing the world in a narrowly inaccurate childish way until now. Now your eyes are a little more open.

Seeing objects moving when they are stationary is not but any means more accurate.
 
The psychedelic experience is more childish than not IMO.

Especially LSD, lol.
 
actually, your eyes have a natural movement to them, especially if you stare directly at one spot. usually it's not noticeable because your visual cortex filters it out (along with all the natural color correction it does) but it's definitely there.

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Seeing objects moving when they are stationary is not but any means more accurate.

Of course it is. Objects aren't really stationary; objects don't even exist. They're just persistent patterns in the flow of elementary particles. Your perceptions are not of the external world, but of the internal model of the world you build. The notion of an object separate from the universe as a whole requires human language to differentiate it from its environment.

Since you have complete control of the entire universe generated by your internal model, being able to move objects with your mind is an accurate byproduct.
 
Of course it is. Objects aren't really stationary; objects don't even exist. They're just persistent patterns in the flow of elementary particles. Your perceptions are not of the external world, but of the internal model of the world you build. The notion of an object separate from the universe as a whole requires human language to differentiate it from its environment.

Since you have complete control of the entire universe generated by your internal model, being able to move objects with your mind is an accurate byproduct.

please, dude... Trying to justify the validity of what is obliviously a slight abnormality in perception with some Peter Russell-esque style rant. No, just no. If solid objects like walls really were moving to the extent of what people suffering with HPPD report, don't you think these kinds of things would be picked up on motion sensors? The molecules which make up solid objects are very tightly compacted meaning that the atoms which they are comprised of do not have much room for movement. As a result they vibrate very rapidly within a very small amount of space. This in itself proves that the perception is obliviously not in keeping with their external state. The mind has become more playful with the information received through the senses, not more accurate.
 
The walls aren't real; they're mental constructs. Realizing that you have conscious control over what you see is what psychedelics can open the mind to.
 
The walls aren't real; they're mental constructs. Realizing that you have conscious control over what you see is what psychedelics can open the mind to.

You're completely ignoring the fact that these "mental constructs" are built from external information received through the sensory organs. Just because it all comes together in the brain, (which by your logic isn't real either) this does not mean that walls do not exist as a tightly knitted structured mass of molecules externally. In this sense they are very real, and if one was to fall on you I'm sure you'd come to the same conclusion pretty quickly. I agree that psychedelics can bring to your attention the separation between the external world and the internal world that the mind creates based on external information. But these altered perceptions that psychedelics cause are even less accurate than those of the non psychedelic mind state. How do we know this? Because matter can not be moved or change shape externally just by thinking alone. Matter does not behave in the way it can appear to while you are tripping unless external factors permit it to. You can not bend a spoon with the power of your mind alone. But you can perceive a spoon to be bending when it is not.

That's why it's called Hallucinogen persisting perception disorder.
 
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