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GileS

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Ok so a friend of myn is curious about MDMA and was asking me what the real dangers of MDMA are (providing it is MDMA you are taking), I told them that the only danger cases I knew of were of:

-Over-heating
-Dehydration
-Water intoxication (too much water)
-Psychological addiction(wanting to be back at that high)
-Combinations of anti-depressants and MDMA
-(started struggling here lol) Thinking your light enough to fly out the window...??
- over excitement? too much fun?

Anyway after really thinking about it, I decided to look it up but again found very little in the way or real dangers. It seemed very common that overheating and dehydration were the main risks but nothing more. Research on the dangers seems very limited/sketch and was wondering if it was my research skills :s

Was just wondering if there are any dangers iv missed out, like being allergic to it or any adverse affects resulting from the drug itself?

Thanks in advance
GileS
 
Redosing can be dangerous just like high doses of MDMA which can be considered toxic.

Alcohol+MDMA is also a huge risk

No such thing as too much fun, just don't bite your tongue off(Gurning)
 
The biggest danger is that you'll like it soooo much you start to do it way too often and you take too much. That can lead to emotional issues like depression and anxiety. Less is more.
 
Long-term overuse could increase your chances of depression/anxiety, and has possible cognitive effects (loss of memory, finding it harder to think). Moderate, occasional use is unlikely to cause any problems though.

I think you've pretty much covered all the dangers, presuming that they're taking MDMA and only MDMA.
 
Serotonin receptor damage. Or is it transmitter? Or both? I can't remember atm, look those up though. IMO that is the important possible damage.

Being too hot while rolling increases the damage done I think>

I always look at long term damage from drugs, and not really anything else damage wise.. and I try to do things to lower or stop that long term damage.
 
Sociable said:
Redosing can be dangerous just like high doses of MDMA which can be considered toxic.

Alcohol+MDMA is also a huge risk

No such thing as too much fun, just don't bite your tongue off(Gurning)
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Utter bullshit.

Nothing wrong with redosing. As long as you know what a reasonable dose of MDMA is.

ALso I have friends who have done like 2g pure MDMA in a night and they've been "fine" - sweating, gurning messes...but not in any real danger unless you have heart troubles I would have thought!

Alcohol + MDMA is not really a big risk at all. As long as you're not abusing either of them, and still make sure you have about a pint-litre of water every hour you'll be fine.
 
Jblazingphoenix100 said:
Utter bullshit.

Nothing wrong with redosing. As long as you know what a reasonable dose of MDMA is.

ALso I have friends who have done like 2g pure MDMA in a night and they've been "fine" - sweating, gurning messes...but not in any real danger unless you have heart troubles I would have thought!

Alcohol + MDMA is not really a big risk at all. As long as you're not abusing either of them, and still make sure you have about a pint-litre of water every hour you'll be fine.
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I don't think he meant dangers that lead to death, and if he did those are rare and almost never involve just mdma. I think he meant dangers like brain damage, which most of what you just said causes a lot of.

Most of what you just said is "fine" does a ton more brain damage than one dose of mdma would. 2 grams in a night shouldn't kill you, but it for sure does a lot of damage. If you don't think that's true you're pretty stupid.
 
sir_thizzalot said:
I don't think he meant dangers that lead to death, and if he did those are rare and almost never involve just mdma. I think he meant dangers like brain damage, which most of what you just said causes a lot of.

Most of what you just said is "fine" does a ton more brain damage than one dose of mdma would. 2 grams in a night shouldn't kill you, but it for sure does a lot of damage. If you don't think that's true you're pretty stupid.
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Yes, definitely unnecessary extra brain damage from dosing like that.
 
alcohol + mdma is just another dehydration issue.....just make sure you drink water also
 
Jblazingphoenix100 said:
Utter bullshit.

Nothing wrong with redosing. As long as you know what a reasonable dose of MDMA is.

ALso I have friends who have done like 2g pure MDMA in a night and they've been "fine" - sweating, gurning messes...but not in any real danger unless you have heart troubles I would have thought!

Alcohol + MDMA is not really a big risk at all. As long as you're not abusing either of them, and still make sure you have about a pint-litre of water every hour you'll be fine.
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If he's giving advice to a newbie it's safer to say "eat a healthy diet" instead of "cut your calories by 10%"

Alcohol+MDMA without a doubt increases neurotoxicity and can't be excellent for you.


also unless this guy can get molly and a scale how does he actually know how much he's ingesting?
Redosing multiple times increases your tolerance quickly and so I wouldn't encourage redosing 3 times+

As for being fine, I'd rather do this for the rest of my life and savour the magic then hurt myself early on.

Less is more

Sorry if I offended you somehow
 
You didn't offend.

Giving advice to a newbie is all good...just the things you said man - "huge risk" and "dangerous" - they really don't enter into it where you were talking about, that's all - he's asking for the dangers and these aren't really very likely to kill someone or even make them very ill, unless they drink a SHITLOAD, and neck a whole bunch of pills.

Also redosing - really not a problem - if you get a gram - crush it up reasonably well, split it into like 8 piles - and there you have it...should be simple, and not risky in the slightest.
 
Getting so intense with your significant other in public places that it leads to awkward situations later....
 
Jblazingphoenix100 said:
You didn't offend.

Giving advice to a newbie is all good...just the things you said man - "huge risk" and "dangerous" - they really don't enter into it where you were talking about, that's all - he's asking for the dangers and these aren't really very likely to kill someone or even make them very ill, unless they drink a SHITLOAD, and neck a whole bunch of pills.

Also redosing - really not a problem - if you get a gram - crush it up reasonably well, split it into like 8 piles - and there you have it...should be simple, and not risky in the slightest.
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Reading your posts in this thread you have said "as long as" quite a bit.

Being that this is a harm reduction message board we encourage people to err on the side of caution. It people can stay away from alcohol while they are rolling then that is ideal, both drugs have issues on their own, and there can be a set of new issues if they are combined.

Moderation is ideal. Stating that you should be "okay" to take 2 grams of mdma in a night because your friends were not seriously injured from such an event is not wise to make a blanket generalization. I think that your friends are lucky that they did not experience severe and prolonged side effects. I would never ever in a million years suggest that someone take that much mdma, even a gram, or even 500 mg, especially if people have not had their substance analyzed in a lab for impurities (particularly active ones!).

So again, this is a harm reduction message board, we want people to practice safe drug use, not "well it didn't harm my friend so it must be okay". :\
 
I never said that - suggested that he should take a gram in one go. I wouldn't say that to ANYONE, as it's unnecessary.

I said that they were "fine"(seriously...notice the inverted commas...meaning they didn't have anything but some major comedown and monday/tuesday morning blues, whilst not seeing any potential other damage to them in the longterm) - THEREFORE, a simple redose or 2 on your first go with MDMA shouldn't be an issue.

And also, fair enough, I will say that until one is comfortable with MDMA, then mixing with alcohol isn't the best idea - BUT I will stand by saying that it's not a "huge risk" as Sociable said.

Simples.
 
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