6-APB 6-(2-Aminopropyl)-2,3-dihydrobenzofuran (90mg) - New Experience

[gubbs123]

I can see the vendors structure diagram, but i wouldn't want to just 'accept' it from that. After all, i've seen vendors selling AMT, with their description mentioning it's alternative name as a-AMT, when the two are very different. If we can get some clarification that would be great.

 

[gubbs123]

The wiki page also refers to it as '1-(2,3-dihydro-1-benzofuran-6-yl)propan-2-amine'.

 

[Morninggloryseed]

Ok, I'm sorta confused now as well. I hear this being called "3D" but 1-(benzofuran-6-yl)propan-2-amine is 4-D. The molecule named in this thread is 4-desoxy-MDA...the MDA molecule but take away the oxygen at the '4' position.

The other analogue is 3D which looks like this...

 

[junglist15]

interesting stuff!

 

[torturedrainbow]

got wy samle

Male 36. Weighp 185lbs
Lying in bed
Snored 100mg
Effects becawe apparent in 4.5 mies
Good euphoria buidig - its bliss

This is sweet, this is special ,and NOT like the 5.-iai i tested0
Colour and music good

Good shit guys
Geat buzz
Nice and smooth. The buzz is similar to morphne.
Got some -HEX TC1, Anyone know what this is?

 

[ABCDFG I Ate The E]

got wy samle of

Male 36. Weighp 185lbs
Lying in bed
Snored 100mg
Effects becawe apparent in 4.5 mies
Good euphoria buidig - its bliss

This is sweet, this is special ,and NOT like the 5.-iai i tested0
Colour and music good

Good shit guys
Geat buzz
Nice and smooth. The buzz is similar to morphne.
Got some -HEX TC1, Anyone know what this is?

this reminds me of a foreign guy on the phone when your trying to get help.

 

[theotherside]

Oh god I hope these vendors stop coming on bluelight to pump up these two. We went from mephedrone to a war between 5-IAI and ....what a crazy world we live in

 

[jblz]

OP makes it sound very promising. I wish it didn't have such a gay name though.. think I'll stick to referring to it as 6-APDB ;P

Can't wait for more reports to come in.. Don't think I'm gonna try it until its been properly introduced to the scene for a few weeks/couple of months and see if theres anything noticeably dodgy with it.

 

[greenmeanies]

interesting how a simple typo has been spread as the 'official' name of the chem-- clearly there is only one dihydrobenzofuranyl ring in this molecule yet there is a copy-and-paste typo that includes two of them

1-(benzofuran-6-yl)pr1-(benzofuran-6-yl)propan-2-amine
vs
1-(benzofuran-6-yl)propan-2-amine

which is still not exactly the molecule we are describing, the 4-D that we have images of it's structure

1-(2,3-dihydro-benzofuran-6-yl)propan-2-amine

i just wish the vendors would show a little class and stop hyping a product that they haven't even gotten through customs yet.

 

[coast]

i just wish the vendors would show a little class and stop hyping a product that they haven't even gotten through customs yet.

Yes I made this point a few days ago.
Certainly the bulk/barrels are held at customs presently.

Maybe if the people claiming to have tried samples are telling the truth then those small amounts could have been sent in small envelopes and got through.
Who knows for sure...

Certainly dishonest claims with some vendors giong on now.

 

[champ]

This thread makes me feel sad about how bluelight has changed from what it once was.

Sorry to be bitchy but some of the posts on this thread come across as shill posts and there is too much vendor discussion, somewhat obfuscated in terms of specifics but it's shady as hell.



Am I the only person who feels this way? If so, I will gladly keep my mouth shut.

 

[adder]

I don't know what OP took. Well, these different names for the same structures can be confusing, 6-APDB = "4-desoxy-MDA", 5-APDB = "3-desoxy-MDA". It's been quite a lot of time since David Nichols with team synthesized both so there's enough info on it. Both really don't satisfy me. They feel more like butane analog of MDMA (low affinity to dopamine and noradrenaline compared to serotonin, well, I'm talking about IC-50, not Ki now but it tells the whole story), especially 6-APDB. So, instead of substituting for MDMA, they're like more of a substition for MDAT, MMAI and similar compounds. Well, there really can be no comedown like that from MDMA for reasons I mentioned but it's not like people are looking for something serotoninergic, right? And that's why I called somewhere MMAI only "interesting". Wikipedia won't show enough info on all of these anyway (and with the speed of globalization and considering how old these compounds are in fact - that's strange).

It doesn't substitute (at doses that can be used) MDMA. Maybe it does at very high doses but that is easily explainable then (more of the compound, more DA/NE action but at the same time flooding of 5-HT).

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So what exactly is? 6-APDB or 5-APDB? Or maybe both mixed? That's why I don't like this new suppliers' naming. well, 'Explosion' is another example but everyone knew it was Methylone or rather bk-MDMA. I'm a fucking chemist with my heart and with my soul. I'm getting sick & tired of these stupid names slowly. 6-APDB isn't a great short-cut either by the way.

1-(2,3-dihydro-1-benzofuran-6-yl)propan-2-amine <- IUPAC name of the structure

For God's sake, does anyone see a reason to call this 6-APDB? Where do those letters come from? Alright, people name more complex compounds differently. Now:

6-(2-Aminopropyl)-2,3-dihydrobenzofuran

6-APDB <- Here it is. Now that was quite a challenge. Now look at this:

14-hydroxy-7,8-dihydromorphinone (non-IUPAC) = oxymorphone

This can be confusing too but 7,8-double bond ketones are simply codeinone/morphinone by history of naming semi-synthetic opioids (well, P. Somniferum synthesizes codeinone too to make codeine from it but never mind). We have a name "oxymorphone" that's well-known. It can have a load of analogs, some are very interesting but let's stick to another well-known:

N-allylnoroxymorphone = Naloxone

I don't know where I'm going with this but my point is naming some "not-so-amazing" street compounds means nothing to me as a chemist. Well, I know this naming mumbling doesn't belong here but it's connected with the topic of "ex-lab-only compounds recently appearing as street drugs". "" can mean to me I will go nuts and aggressive after taking it () and it will sedate me as hell (). No, it's a mellow drug, no fury, no BLAST.

There's a bigger chance that more psychedelic drugs synthesized as analogs of phenethylamines or amphetamines will appear (and it will be not much of a hallucinogen but it will alter mind seriously) than there will be suddenly some totally MDMA substituting drug hitting RC suppliers/streets (where's DOTFM or 2C-TFM-FLY? Only bromine everywhere).

EDIT: I mean, I don't care that much. I don't use anything from some RC suppliers. But I'm totally against free access to drugs like mephedrone, 4-ethylmethcathinone (ephedrone? lol) or 3,4-dimethylmethcathinone to children. This should be like that. That's one thing. The other thing is, it's been so long, I know, when you go and buy amphetamine, cocaine or heroin (whatever one prefers), he's not lured by a dealer with some stupid names. Here slang names started to pop up so you don't say 'heroin' on phone for example, brown sugar heroin scene is still quite niche in my country, you don't go to some district and look for a person sitting on a bench, you call.

So to cut the long story short, I don't like when someone lies to me and I hate that people who don't really know they're doing because they haven't grown up yet (children, adolescents) get such an easy route for addiction now because of idiots who sell mephedrone and other shit to everyone, no matter the age.

 

[azzazza !?]

^someone in the closed ADD thread suggested that this might also be the unsaturated version of 6-APDB (im not a chemist/pharmacologist, so i have no idea as to how feasible/likely that is) (here (post 47 and following))

though their display image shows 6-APDB

this is not 6-APDB this is the unsaturated version of 6-APDB.

6-apdb:1-(2,3-dihydro-1-benzofuran-6-yl)propan-2-amine
5-apdb:1-(2,3-dihydro-1-benzofuran-5-yl)propan-2-amine --> compound assayed by f & b
new compound:1-(benzofuran-6-yl)propan-2-amine

as far as I know compound 1 and 3 have never been tried in humans

 

[planckunit]

^someone in the closed ADD thread suggested that this might also be the unsaturated version of 6-APDB (im not a chemist/pharmacologist, so i have no idea as to how feasible/likely that is) (here)

though their display image shows 6-APDB

Yeah, the name says it'ts the unsaturated version, the picture says it's the saturated version. Get a friend in the chemistry department to take an nmr spectrum of this compound and we'll know at once which of the 2 it is...

 

[adder]

1-(1-benzofuran-6-yl)propan2-amine - a compound with unsaturated bond (well, here we've got an aromatic structure inside the molecule)

1-(2,3-dihydro-1-benzofuran-6-yl)propan-2-amine - a compound with saturated bond

Topic suggest an unsaturated compound (a quick chemistry lesson: saturated: no manifold bond, unsaturated: there are manifold bonds). I never tried that unsaturated compound. I don't know if FLY and dragonFLY rule applies here but it's well-known that while FLYs may be less potent but they bind better to receptors (2C-B-FLY vs. Bromo-DragonFLY). 6-APDB is a name for a substance with the saturated 2,3-bond. So a suggested name in the mentioned thread for 1-(1-benzofuran-6-yl)propan2-amine or 6-(2-Aminopropyl)benzofuran - 6-APB - would apply if we followed this naming path.

But there's another thing. As an analog 6-APB with the double bond there it has only one hydrogen atom bond, 6-APDB has 2. MDA obviously has none because it has oxygen there instead of carbon. So how those all differences work on similarities in action of 6-APDB or 6-APB to MDA? I disputed similarity before, I mean, DAT and NAT affinities is 10-fold weaker than SERT for 6-APDB = how can it really resemble MDA? I like a lot MDA and how it's different to MDMA because of more action at 5-HT{2A}. All those MDAI, MDMAI, MDAT and MMAI proved to be worthless because they're simply 5-HT releasing agents. 6-APDB is different but still it's got much more affinity for SERT than for DAT and NAT. So how can you except something similar to MDMA where there's kind of little dopamine action?

 

[GZero]

Now this could have been the result of the phenazepam (binned) but around thursday this week I felt a real crash, waking up depressed. Seems to have cleared now but certainly worth mentionable.


HOWEVER, after taking my solitary 6-APDB dose, that weekend I get on the mephedrone, methylone and all sorts. This may have had a bearing.

 

[GZero]

Oh and dude I'm really not a vendor, mores the pity...


If you're well informed and experienced with these things, why not try e-mailing a few suppliers? Most "slots" I'd imagine are taken but the majority (that I know of) plan to assess these new chems by giving samples to experienced RC users.

Whatever this was it was excellent, I hope the crash was the result of the other excesses.

 

[GZero]

This thread makes me feel sad about how bluelight has changed from what it once was.

Sorry to be bitchy but some of the posts on this thread come across as shill posts and there is too much vendor discussion, somewhat obfuscated in terms of specifics but it's shady as hell.



Am I the only person who feels this way? If so, I will gladly keep my mouth shut.

I know what you're saying, but this is an exceptional time. Like it or not these chems are going on sale sooner or later and in the name of harm reduction we need concrete reports.

 

[seejay33]

I know what you're saying, but this is an exceptional time. Like it or not these chems are going on sale sooner or later and in the name of harm reduction we need concrete reports.

my thoughts exactly, harm, reduction personified....

 

[adder]

Yet we haven't found yet if it's a benzofuran ring attached instead of benzene (like in amphetamine) or there are two more hydrogens there and it's no more aromatic. No vendor will tell you that sadly, he just sells "". From the name of of the report we gotta assume it's 6-APB, not 6-APDB. I don't know if makes a difference but imagine it's not a benzene ring in amphetamine structure but cyclohexa-1,3-diene. Makes a difference, benzene ring is flat, cyclohexa-1,3-diene is not. But whatever, I'm not in some charity foundation. "" will hit the streets here and there, not 6-APDB or 6-APB and the most important thing will be it works. Sad but true, most of junkies don't care. And it's best seen with mephedrone consumption and how it keeps up on the market.