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[Sentience]

:d when i read this, sentience, the mouthful of tea i was drinking wound up coming out again via my nose.

Please don't be so funny when i'm drinking tea.

 

[The RZA]

ENJOY! don't ban them BAN FOOLS! i am a fool. BAN ALCOHOL? not a chance.
binge drinking alky,all or nothing.

self destruct button needs deactivating.

lets face it being straight all the time gets dull and dreary.

Can anyone really get high on life on a day to day basis?

So does being fucked out of your skull though scrooloose. For me, drugs can only be enjoyable when they're balanced by more of my time spent straight - in that they're a treat and I look forward to the weekends when it does happen.

That said, I'm pretty much content with life and my 3 year old daughter gets me higher than any drug ever could so I appreciate I'm not inhabiting the place you are at the moment.

I hope you find that key again mate and things start to look more positive for you very soon, I really do.

Peace.

 

[Link_S]

So does being fucked out of your skull though scrooloose.

I dunno, time flies when you've got a benzo habit

 

[The RZA]

I'd rather it walked and not have a benzo habit.

 

[JoshuaV]

I would have to disagree the products we buy the suppliers list all the ingredients and if you want to know what they mean and what they do it is as easy as googling them they are very responsible with there products and you know your not buying coke with half of fertilizer mixed in it.. but I do understand and no of many other sellers who don't those that put "not for human consumption" when they are are the worst .
Its taken me a while to find a supplier who is honest and now that I have am sticking by them as they actually care what happens to there customer.

Well what I mean is like... Sometimes they'll list "Beta ketones" instead of "140mg methylone". So that you don't REALLY know what you're getting - The ingredients are vague and don't give you a true knowledge of what is in it, or how much is in it for that matter.

It's tricky since we can't list vendors and it's not black-and-white - SOME branded vendors are OK, others are completely unacceptable, and there's lots of room in between.

I'm fine with stupid names like "White Rush" as long as they list the chemical name for what's in it, and the amount in milligrams.

 

[Evad]

Its taken me a while to find a supplier who is honest and now that I have am sticking by them as they actually care what happens to there customer.

no supplier that doesn't even list what is in their products gives a fuck about their customers, don't kid yourself. Even the ones that do don't care, it's about money.

 

[Sentience]

I think some people care about their customers.

 

[Link_S]

I reckon so, but the bottom line has and always will be money. Only a minority show any kind of customer care anyway

 

[JoshuaV]

Yeah, when you're in the business of selling untested barely-legal drugs via the internet, where you don't know if your purchaser is 30 or 13...

Let's just say that it's pretty obvious that the vendors don't care about you, or what happens to you, so long as they get your money.

 

[WeedMyLips]

I guess there are alot of assholes suppliers out there and people who give vague ingredients my one doesn't i google them and no exactly what I am taking what I may experience wikipeida is fantastic when you know what your taking . Don't know the grams down to a t but what supplier would give that info out it's like asking Coke a Cola or KFC what there secret ingredient is . It may be about the money BUT i would rather purchase from them than some drug dealer who mixes everything anyway to make it go further. They are probably few and far between but they do exist...and as you can not list vendors on here it's hard to give examples as such .

 

[Evad]

you would rather take random amounts of unknown drugs mixed together than be able to buy them yourself pure and know what you are taking? the cola condition is completely trite, how ridiculous this is drugs we are talking not flavour combinations but combinations of psychoactive chemicals that have different properties, some are dangerous to mix with other things etc.
your vendor doesn't give a fuck about you, they are withholding the ingredients so you can't make it yourself for cheaper.

 

[WeedMyLips]

Well you can't agree with everyone can ya this is a little bit about them without saying who they are ...

Starting the development of legal alternatives for them began 2 continents, 3 companies and 4 years ago, when there R&D company was asked to investigate the possibilities, by a Church Youth Group Seminar concerned that young people were risking health and criminal convictions buying such things.

Rather than bury their heads in the sand and adopt the unrealistic attitude of "just say no", "nobody needs drugs" or "I didn't need drugs when I was younger, so nor does anybody else", they realized that the statistics say that in any developed society 80% of all young people under the age 25 had tried or regularly use an illegal "drugs". No amount of adult threatening can hold a candle to a bout of prolonged peer pressure.

They might have been realistic enough to appreciate that "what people have always done, people will always do" but their diocese council panicked, pulled the bedclothes over their heads and hoped it would all go away! We however had spent a lot of time and money that we were now not going to get paid for so figured they had no other way to get there money back but by commercializing that research.

As an outsource R&D CRC facility they had access to the necessary expertise and software to ensure that every compound they use has been modeled to check for direct toxicity, with all metabolites (breakdown products) having also been checked. Testing in human subjects has been done for a minimum one year for compounds with a history of human use and 2-3 years for those that modeled safely but had no such history. They have been as responsible as they think they can have been, and considerably more so than any others in this, or most other allied industries.

There is considerably more testing and concern than is shown by many pharmaceutical companies. A few minutes on Google will show you that the first comprehensive testing of a lot of pharmaceuticals is done by their customers, and at the customers expense with the taxpayer sweeping up.

Since they introduced what may have been the first synthetic cannabinoid over 3 years ago, they have been asking for any feedback, rumors, gossip or any lead that may have shown a genuine problem. So far in 3 years plus they have not been able to find a single case directly attributable to that cannabinoid.

The ill informed have a hat full of stories of "a friend of theirs heard of a guy who had to go to hospital" or "it's been tested and the test report shows it's poisonous" or "I met a guy who's brother had this fit and had to be rushed to hospital" etc etc Every single story they chased down always and without exception turned out to be motivated by opposition scaremongering, people wanting to be the centre of attention or someone wanting free product. To date they have spent dozens of hours and have not found one single case. Even a Doctor who was proudly telling all who would listen about "the medical problems they are causing" was only able to offer a meek "they may have contributed to their problems" when forced to justify himself.

All cases of adverse reaction they have investigated have been caused by;

Interaction between drugs, i.e. the person had taken 2, 3 or 4 different drugs and they had interacted, with the worst caused by prescription drugs.
They had a medical condition that meant they should not be taking anything at all.
They were given the drug without their knowledge or got a stronger result than they expected leading to panic which always produces what can coyly be called a hypertensive crisis or in common language intense panic.
They continue to test and investigate in an effort to produce as safe a product as possible to make sure that there products remain a legal, safe alternative to those peddled by sleazy drug dealers with little knowledge and less concern. They offer a product and environment that allows people to purchase known product without the risk of criminal conviction, but as always if you are unsure about any product of theres or anyone elses, request more information or simply do not use it. You must be your own guardian, you only have one life, use it wisely.

So my vendor does give a fuck maybe your's doesn't like I said I have come across alot that don't . But am happy with these ones.

 

[godskitchen]

weedmylips interesting post!

 

[Evad]

that is 100% marketing bullshit, don't believe everything a salesman tells you. you are incredibly naive!
if they're not telling you what is in their products they care less about your health than even the shadiest honest place. why is it important that you think they care about you? they don't, they want your money and don't want you to know what you're putting in your body so they can continue to profit off you and you can't research what you take and buy it cheaper and purer elsewhere...

weedmylips interesting post!

how so? he just copy and pasted a load of bullshit from a place selling unidentified pills and powders to anyone stupid enough to hand over their money.


please try and tell me how it would be in your interest at all to not tell you what you are swallowing down.

Testing in human subjects has been done for a minimum one year for compounds with a history of human use and 2-3 years for those that modeled safely but had no such history.

I guarantee you 100% that is straight up lies

Since they introduced what may have been the first synthetic cannabinoid over 3 years ago, they have been asking for any feedback, rumors, gossip or any lead that may have shown a genuine problem. So far in 3 years plus they have not been able to find a single case directly attributable to that cannabinoid.

who is they?? it's certainly not this shit head shop

All cases of adverse reaction they have investigated have been caused by;

what?? these are not medical studies here, the testing they are referring to is unleashing the chemicals unregulated onto the public and neither the factory nor this shit head shop do any such thing as investigate adverse effects...

Interaction between drugs, i.e. the person had taken 2, 3 or 4 different drugs and they had interacted,

haha yeah like the two or 3 unresearched drugs you are mixing together in your magic powders?


you really swallowed that bullshit?

edit: haha just had a look around the site and it is an absolute joke! fake hash made from cannabanoids and vegetable matter, way to make a fairly safe drug more cancerous!
it's even littered with made up chemistry terms - even the names for the chemical families are made up...

the vendor does not only not care about you it also assumes you are a moron...

 

[WeedMyLips]

you know your allowed your opinion but where is your proof that it's a 100% bull shit give us some research some stats something to say this is bullshit it's very well mouthing off that it is but you have just disagreed with everything they have said do you have facts to back this up that they don't do testing ?

I would be interested to hear these rather than slamming this.

 

[perfect haze]

I got to church youth group then my lolz made reading impossible. whatcanyado?

 

[Evad]

it's all bullshit, there has been no medical trials on these compounds, there are no papers about trials. why do you require proof that there are no trials (there aren't but how am i suppose to back that up? showing you blank pages?) but just believe a vendor saying there is? there has barely been trials on mephedrone let alone these less known compounds. why would you believe this place saying they had and then not backing it up at all .

i'm not mouthing off i'm just speaking the truth, are you a shill for this company? a couple of other threads you have started (one about a neato legal high company giving free samples and another about trying to advertise your company at raves make this seem quite possible).

This is not my opinion, it is fact. Companies selling branded products, witholding the product contents and using lies and pseudoscience to flog legal highs are not ethically sound.

 

[godskitchen]

It was interesting reading every business has a marketing read frike it's the way of the world even world vision and seeing as i haven't been on the site or know where it is i thank you for copy and pasting that!

 

[perfect haze]

As long as interesting is meant like how reading LOTR is interesting - dont mean you expect wizards and hobbits to start coming and chatting to ya like.

 

[Evad]

haha weedmylips and godskitchen why does one of you sign out then the other sign in ? weedmylips have you created a second account just to agree with you? that's against the rules you know.

join date within a day of each other as well haha

It was interesting reading every business has a marketing read frike it's the way of the world even world vision and seeing as i haven't been on the site or know where it is i thank you for copy and pasting that!

Just wondered anyone tried Alchemy or Krank? heard some great reports on them but thought I would seek further info through the BLightersss....anyone know any thing on them ?

so you haven't been on the site, yet on the previous page you are asking about two products which are only sold on that site

busted!

shill fucks are not welcome here.