1-(2,3-dihydro-1-benzofuran-6-yl)propan-2-amine

[gubbs123]

Wtf? Naphyrone has little to do with 5-IAI they arent even related chemicals and completely differend effect wise.

He's since acknowledged that it wasn't 5-IAI. To be honest, I wish all these nicknames - Energy-1 and NRG-1 etc would just fuck off. They add confusion as to what the product really is. The nicknames (if they HAVE to come) should arrive after the actual name of the chemical has been released.

 

[MeDieViL]

it was definitely active, it just never quite got there, there was a stage where i was feeling 'preliminary rushes' if you will. it does differ from your descriptions though in the fact that its not crystals. does yours have any odour at all.

i do have strong suspicions that i have been sold something that was not in the description. the jury is still out though, a tad disappointed to say the least.

Did you take it oral? Seems that everyone is snorting this one, and imo this is just like snorting MDMA (eg very bad ROA).

 

[MeDieViL]

He's since acknowledged that it wasn't 5-IAI. To be honest, I wish all these nicknames - Energy-1 and NRG-1 etc would just fuck off. They add confusion as to what the product really is. The nicknames (if they HAVE to come) should arrive after the actual name of the chemical has been released.

Yeah those nicknames are retarded, id stay well clear of those chems too.

 

[chemical messiah]

This thread is in need of an overhaul. Too much off topic discussion to wade through trying to read about 6-APDB.

 

[GZero]

Agreed the pertinant information should be skimmed off the top and a megathread created.

 

[Jamshyd]

Always wanted to try poppy pods. I've done a TR for 5.IAI, very similar to your Benzo.

Which Benzo? Diazepam or Triazolam? Gee I'm so lost.

Guys, drop the very, very silly and potentially dangerously-misguiding name.

 

[ebola?]

"Now you've unleashed the fucking FURY!"
I mean, the 'official' name is rather cumbersome. Does 4-desoxy-mda work (is that even accurate)? Do we need nicknames for obscure RCs?

ebola

 

[GZero]

"Now you've unleashed the fucking FURY!"
I mean, the 'official' name is rather cumbersome. Does 4-desoxy-mda work (is that even accurate)? Do we need nicknames for obscure RCs?

ebola

Ah ebola! Is this 4-desoxy-mda then? there's still some confusion.

 

[Link_S]

If it is 6-APDB then yeah it is 4-desoxy-mda afaik

 

[GZero]

Ah ok, thanks. Not a good chemist need to read more.

 

[gannetsarewe]

i'm trying to think of some clever psychonaut variation of "bro's before ho's," but its eluding me at the moment

Well a psychonaut is basically a drug nerd and nerds don't have girlfriends, conducting solitary sex life's on the internet, so I suggest
"tanking before wanking" .

But then Psychonauts don't tank they titrate, as in "Oh Julian I was in the Nags Head last night and I titrated at least two halves of shandy".

 

[TheAzo]

I've heard some promising things about this one....

I have to say, the post-meph research chemicals look REALLY interesting... Most of the decent stims got owned.... so instead of a "which stim has the most empathogenic effects" it's "which of these 5HT releasers has enough stimulant properties that it will be fun". I much prefer the latter.... and i swear it's not because i have craptons of the stims stockpiled and live in a country where they're still legal anyway.

 

[fernandesUK]

unfortunately my 125mg sample has stuck to the bag and I've only been able to get 90mg to play with here.

To aid the posters who aparently can't figure it out:
1-(benzofuran-6-yl)pr1-(benzofuran-6-yl)propan-2-amine
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/6-APDB
AKA "Benzo Fury" (We need to work on this team)

18:07 - Into a gelcap and down the hatch. A joint is rolled.

18:41 - Gentle stimulation felt, the feeling of well being returns. Not jitters, but a light uplifting feeling. However not the the same belly tremors MDMA would give you when you're "coming up". This smacks of a lower affinity for dopa systems, although this being a very low dose (going by the literature and the good report above) may be a factor here. Most pleasant thus far. Negligible pupil dilation.

18:47 - More of a dopa edge felt. No euphoria so far, so I would imagine that the next 15-30 minutes will be eventful. Skin tingling, it's hard to quantify (but I know my body) but this feels like a vasoconstrictor. This also suggests more stimulation than purely serotonergic compounds like MDAI.

18:51 - Thick and fast now. Experiencing sedate sort of come up, excited feeling in my belly. We shall know soon.

19:07 - Pronounced stimulation, not unlike mephedrone. Thinking clearly and talking to officials on the phone without impediment. I like this drug, a sort of euphoria so far, but not so well defined, it's more complex than raw MDMA type rushes. I was just chatting to a friend, feel lucid and confident like on MDMA, some stimulation, but not enough to make you look like a fiend. 90mg is a good dose. This is a very interesting new substance.

19:09 - I will stop updating so frequenty, but I'm getting rushes now and definite visual distortions. This is an absolutely BEAUTIFUL drug. Seriously, this is one for further study. It's like MDMA but less sweating fiendishness. Cocktail party MDMA. Very similar to MDA actually, but gently and colourfully visual. This is insane, I never expected this to be this nice.

19:14 - I will update this when I plateau, the euphoria is getting stronger, the visuals are so gentle but wonderful, even now it's getting more intense. 90mg is plenty, but this drug feels so warm and forgiving, I can't see it being particularly damaging. I hate to say it, but the "bogus" trip report from earlier in this thread seems credible to me now, the orgasmic feeling I feel. I need more of this chemical.

19:18 - I lick the bag. This has a definite 2C-* synthetic taste, anybody who has tasted these will confirm. It's not like the bitterness one expects from the MDA/MDMA side of the amphetamine chain. This has has beautiful visuals, this FEELS like a 2C type PEA but without the cold, it has the warmth and depth of a true entactogen. Seriously guys, this is better than anything I have tried recently. Illegal or otherwise. Oh and before it's said, I'm not a shill, I know the guy a little and he's had nothing but good reports of the samples flying in all morning.

19:30 - I have a friend coming round and I've reached a point where I think I could just yammer on about how nice this is without really getting any pertinent information across. Will update as and when. To sum up: It's euphoric, stimulating but not fiendishly so, feels honestly orgasmic...

20:20 - Still peaking. See above, glorious substance.

21:20 - Still peaking, easy playful visuals that are as powerful as you want them to be, MDMA empathy, pure euphoria. This really is a fantastic chemical, all the visual charm and psychedelia of the 2C's with the warth and joy of MDMA. This is my new personal favourite. Music sounds beautiful, far too chatty and acting all loved up toward people. I never expected such a treat.

21:35 - I think things have plateau'd but this stuff is so like MDMA it seems to come in waves. I still feel warm, cozy, very very happy, like I want to talk to everybody, and oh so visual yet and it all feels very light, my pulse is normal. Even as I type this, I'm coming back up...

21:44 - I'm listening to sitar music (guilty pleasure of mine...) and smoking a joint. This has all the depth and visuals of a true psychedelic yet it's a shining example of an entactogen (oh what forum shall we post in), it's touchingly beautiful and empathetic, all the "loved up" and codshit talk of MDMA as well as it's euphoria. Still, it feels like a remarkably light touch on the body and not certainly not overstimulating, it's like MDMA for rainy afternoons. This really is a new favourite of mine. I would love to see more trip reports and I know my friend the chap who railed 150mg is both reading this and signing up for an account now (right? go on...) so he can post his experience. Man's a veteran, he'll be able to give this some context. I can't describe it better than a wonderful hybrid, a bridge from MDMA to the 2Cs. The visuals are vivid but non threatening. Colourful like a 2C-B trip and flowing like 2C-E. It really is remarkable.

22:06 - I'm slowly beginning to come down, there's no "pull" to redose, it would be nice but there's no chemical drag like with cocaine or mephedrone. This feels much deeper than the aforementioned, a true psychedelic experience but a wonderfully euphoric one. It's very hard not to sound like a shill in the above report, but I don't normally react like this, what I say above is the truth. I love this stuff, I want to hear more about it.

22:12 - Oh but its such a gentle decline if at all, I don't forsee much of a comedown, I think I'll augment this with a dose of GBL.

gzero thank you for your report! you described it a lot better than me.......and to you handful of doubters.....FUCK YOU with your vendor/marketing accusations....I wrote an honest report at the start of this thread and got slated. im sure more reports will unfold in time....and i wonder if any negatives will evolve in the process?

 

[Sentience]

I am feeling a little bitter about my US residency.

Do you think this will show up in any covert dual use products here in the states?

 

[Skyline_GTR]

Regarding UK law and "PEA's with divalent substituents on the benzene ring (F-22, 2C-G-x, etc...)"

To reiterate what ex-amine has asked.

Quoting a vendor site promoting "Benzo Fury" AKA 6-(2-aminopropyl)-2,3-dihydrobenzofuran or 6-APDB (rewritten to prevent easy source tracing).



F-22 is a dihydrobenzofuran as are 6-APDB and 5-APDB. The 2C-G-x compounds each have a different ring attached to the benzene ring in the same position as the above compunds.

Can anyone with pharmacological knowlege please explain what a divalent substituent is and whether 6-APDB and 5-APDB are illegal under UK law?

I'm going to stick my neck out and say they aren't illegal under UK law.

After re-reading the erowid link I posted earlier and checking the exact wording of the Misuse of Drugs Act amendment 2001 (came into force 1st Feb 2002), the catch-all clause still refers only to univilant substituents on the ring.

This amendment had to list 36 phenethylamine derivatives in PHIKAL by name, specifically because they fell outside of the "catch all" clause - including ones with divalent substituents which is what erowid was refering too, rather than the actual wording of the catch all clause.

The 36 substances that fall outside of the catch all (catch most) clause include a couple of dihydrobenzofuran based molecules (e.g F-22), and therefore it follows that 6-APBD will also need to be specifically scheduled by name if/when they ban it (unless they decide to add a divalent clause in the catch all wording).

http://www.opsi.gov.uk/si/si2001/20013998.htm#sch1

Allyl(-methyl-3,4-methylenedioxyphenethyl)amine

2-Amino-1-(2,5-dimethoxy-4-methylphenyl)ethanol

2-Amino-1-(3,4-dimethoxyphenyl)ethanol

Benzyl(-methyl-3,4-methylenedioxyphenethyl)amine

4-Bromo-ß,2,5-trimethoxyphenethylamine

N-(4-sec-Butylthio-2,5-dimethoxyphenethyl)hydroxylamine

Cyclopropylmethyl(-methyl-3,4-methylenedioxyphenethyl)amine

2-(4,7-Dimethoxy-2,3-dihydro-1H-indan-5-yl)ethylamine

2-(4,7-Dimethoxy-2,3-dihydro-1H-indan-5-yl)-1-methylethylamine

2-(2,5-Dimethoxy-4-methylphenyl)cyclopropylamine

2-(1,4-Dimethoxy-2-naphthyl)ethylamine

2-(1,4-Dimethoxy-2-naphthyl)-1-methylethylamine

N-(2,5-Dimethoxy-4-propylthiophenethyl)hydroxylamine

2-(1,4-Dimethoxy-5,6,7,8-tetrahydro-2-naphthyl)ethylamine

2-(1,4-Dimethoxy-5,6,7,8-tetrahydro-2-naphthyl)-1-methylethylamine

, -Dimethyl-3,4-methylenedioxyphenethylamine

,-Dimethyl-3,4-methylenedioxyphenethyl(methyl)amine

Dimethyl(-methyl-3,4-methylenedioxyphenethyl)amine

N-(4-Ethylthio-2,5-dimethoxyphenethyl)hydroxylamine

4-Iodo-2,5-dimethoxy-a-methylphenethyl(dimethyl)amine

2-(1,4-Methano-5,8-dimethoxy-1,2,3,4-tetrahydro-6-naphthyl)ethylamine

2-(1,4-Methano-5,8-dimethoxy-1,2,3,4-tetrahydro-6-naphthyl)-1-methylethylamine

2-(5-Methoxy-2,2-dimethyl-2,3-dihydrobenzo(b)furan-6-yl)-1-methylethylamine

2-Methoxyethyl(-methyl-3,4-methylenedioxyphenethyl)amine

2-(5-Methoxy-2-methyl-2,3-dihydrobenzo(b)furan-6-yl)-1-methylethylamine

ß-Methoxy-3,4-methylenedioxyphenethylamine

1-(3,4-Methylenedioxybenzyl)butyl(ethyl)amine

1-(3,4-Methylenedioxybenzyl)butyl(methyl)amine

2-(-Methyl-3,4-methylenedioxyphenethylamino)ethanol

-Methyl-3,4-methylenedioxyphenethyl(prop-2-ynyl)amine

N-Methyl-N-(-methyl-3,4-methylenedioxyphenethyl)hydroxylamine

O-Methyl-N-(-methyl-3,4-methylenedioxyphenethyl)hydroxylamine

-Methyl-4-(methylthio)phenethylamine

ß,3,4,5-Tetramethoxyphenethylamine

ß,2,5-Trimethoxy-4-methylphenethylamine

 

[TheAzo]

I am feeling a little bitter about my US residency.

Do you think this will show up in any covert dual use products here in the states?

The vendors will ship to the US....

 

[13thfloor]

The 36 substances that fall outside of the catch all (catch most) clause include a couple of dihydrobenzofuran based molecules (e.g F-22), and therefore it follows that 6-APBD will also need to be specifically scheduled by name if/when they ban it (unless they decide to add a divalent clause in the catch all wording).

Hopefully, the parliamentary recess & our splendid new hung parliament mean they'll have better things to do for a while - all the politics should keep the tabloids busy too...

 

[EddieRocket]

First post.Just joined after reading the report on 6-APDB.Is this RC currently available?Sounds very interesting

 

[nuke]

The vendors will ship to the US....

It is illegal in the US/Canada however do to the Analogue Act/Can. Amphetamine Analogue Law.

It is most likely illegal in the UK as well:

"any compound (not being methoxyphenamine or a compound for the time being specified in sub-paragraph (a) above) structurally derived from phenethylamine, an N-alkylphenethylamine, alpha-methylphenethylamine, an N-alkyl-alpha-methylphenethylamine, alpha-ethylphenethylamine, or an N-alkyl-alpha-ethylphenethylamine by substitution in the ring to any extent with alkyl, alkoxy, alkylenedioxy or halide substitutents, whether or not further substituted in the ring by one or more other univalent substituents;"

Or at least, I wouldn't want to go up against that in court. It's very clearly alkoxy substituted. The argument is that F-22 and the like were scheduled separately, but I'm not sure that would really hold up in court. Substances are often scheduled that would fall under analogue laws so that they are very clearly and unambiguously illegal. The statement above contains "substitution in the ring to any extent with alkoxy substituents", which is a very broad statement and subject to considerably creative interpretation by either prosecutors or expert witnesses. For instance, it could mean that having any sort of ether on the ring in any configuration would be illegal, regardless of any other univalent substituent on the ring or whether or not it's cyclic. Thusly it's arguable that 2C-B-Fly is illegal too under the above statement.

 

[Skyline_GTR]

^that's a reasonable argument, however it should be noted that the catch all clause is not an analogue law in the context of US and Australian legislation.

The term used is "structually derived" followed by specifics of the said derivations and hence it's a lot less ambiguous than the term "structually similar" as in the US analogue laws - the latter indeed being open to wide interpretation.

To my knowledge there has never been a court case in the UK where the phenethylamine catch all clause has been argued over due to ambiguity (that's not to say that such a situation won't happen in the future).

The reason they specifically listed those 36 compounds was because they were simply not illegal in the eyes of the Government's scientists prior to the amendment, as per the Home Office press release in the link below.

Again, of course this doesn't rule out the Crown Proesecution Service in future trying their luck on this, but it would be difficult for them because a legal precendent has been set by the government themselves, by them declaring in 2001 that these substances were being specifically named because they weren't at that time illegal.

See:

http://www.idmu.co.uk/36-ecstasy-type-substances.htm

MDMA or ecstasy has been controlled under the Misuse of Drugs Act 1971 as a Class A drug since 1977 and is covered by a generic definition in the Act which also controls approximately 144 other identified substances with a similar chemical structure. However, these 36 substances are not covered by this generic definition and the Government proposes to control them individually by name.

I may be wrong of course, and would appreciate F&B's input on this as he has previously seemed pretty well versed on the UK legislation.