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[MEGA] God v.2

alasdairm said:
bluelight is a subset of the population of the world. around 80% of the population of the world believes in god in some form or another so why is it surprising that number is reflected in the number of bluelighters who believe in god?

alasdair
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QFT. Gay people tell everyone their gay... Why can't religious pple come out of the closet.
 
MynameisnotDeja said:
Thank you. ^^ :)

I believe in God because it's what I have faith in based on everything I have ever experienced in my life. I DO NOT have a religion or follow religion. Religion tries to define which can't really be defined. Spirituality is endless, constantly moving and growing, where as religion says "this is it. this is how it is".
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Thank you too.
 
I feel like you are saying, "Love the leaf instead of the tree." That makes no sense to me.

I also believe people often credit God with their successes simply because it is seen as egotistical to take the credit for yourself. For example, if an athlete is asked why his team won a match, and he thinks it was because of how good his teammates are, he will say "My teammates did great." If that same athlete thinks his team won because of how great he was -- that he basically had to carry the team -- he will say "I thank God for this victory." Which is code for, "It sure as hell wasn't my teammates."

~psychoblast~
 
Honestly I haven't noticed an excessive amount of God-love on here and I've been around for over a year.

If someone's belief in God gets them through an addiction then by all means quit your bitching, shut the fuck up and let them believe in God. It's not your problem.

Also, God is a loaded term. When I refer to God I most certainly am not referring to a patriarchal figure with a beard sitting in the clouds. There are many different interpretations of what "God" is. My belief is that "God" is the all-pervading non-descript force from which everything springs. It is the base essence of all existence.

-God is perception

"God" can be pretty abstract depending on the person.
 
Also, God is a loaded term. When I refer to God I most certainly am not referring to a patriarchal figure with a beard sitting in the clouds. There are many different interpretations of what "God" is. My belief is that "God" is the all-pervading non-descript force from which everything springs. It is the base essence of all existence.

-God is perception

"God" can be pretty abstract depending on the person.
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Thank you. THANK YOU. I sometimes feel like I could rip my hair out with frustration trying to get people to understand that "God" does not = "the Christian idea of God" or the some other religion. No particular religion owns the word God so it drives me mad when people say things like, "I hate how people believe in God, [insert whatever religion they have a problem with] doesn't make sense, etc".

Why is it so hard to understand that you can believe in God without being religious?
 
Although it goes against all my logical thought processes, I still believe. I am not certain why, yet it has always been truth to me.

Praise be to the Lord <3
 
Well, I've been around BL for some months now, mainly on PD and ED and didn't notice that much theism in neither forum... anyway I'm almost completely agnostic, the only thing I realy believe is that there is something "holy", eternal, etc. in every human being, a soul per se, but I don't think "I" am my soul, I think the soul is independent of the ego and have no idea what happens to this "spark" after we die, nor do I care. Is the existence of such a thing God? Maybe.

I think organized religions had their role in keeping society relatively stable before we had governments but that isn't that much needed anymore, for me now they are just another mostly harmless cultural manifestation.
 
I'm glad a lot of people seem to understand faith. :) I find hardcore athiests to be just as obnoxious as hardcore Christians. Anyone who thinks their way is the only way is blind, period. I also think anyone who is 100% sure about the workings of the Universe and the meaning of this life is blocking themselves off to a greater truth. Spirituality is always flowing and growing and learning. To say "This is how things are" stops that flow. I do "know" a lot, but what I've found over the years is the big picture just keeps growing and growing and it's bigger and more beautiful than I ever could have imagined in the past.
 
I really have not seen an excess of the kind of behavior that the OP is talking about, and when I have seen it I brush it off and dont trip about it. Its really none of my business even if I dont share their beliefs.

I have more esoteric beliefs personally. I have had issues with ex addicts who suddenly become holy rollers, but I have not experienced that here.
 
MynameisnotDeja said:
Thank you. THANK YOU. I sometimes feel like I could rip my hair out with frustration trying to get people to understand that "God" does not = "the Christian idea of God" or the some other religion. No particular religion owns the word God so it drives me mad when people say things like, "I hate how people believe in God, [insert whatever religion they have a problem with] doesn't make sense, etc".

Why is it so hard to understand that you can believe in God without being religious?
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Why use the word "God" at all when you know its been used primarily by people with fallacious conceptions of divinity and such?

Why use the word "God" if you are going to deprive this word of the meaning ascribed to it by the vast vast majority of human beings now and throughout history?

Why use the word "God" if you are going to define it as something so abstract when you realize that it is only limited and stereotyped and misconceived due to its existence as a historically and dogmatically loaded term?

It seems to me that the word God is so loaded that it should be abandoned all together because the comment "I believe in God" or "I don't believe in God" actually seems to reveal NOTHING about true belief.
 
Interesting question..

I'm unsure as to how I could define God, considering God is supposed to be all-seeing, all-knowing and alla that.. I guess God is what you need it to be.. I personally don't think God exists, I mean, how can there be one entity that controls all? Zeitgeist has it locked down as far as I'm concerned..

I asked my best mate, who's religious what he defines as "God".. He said "The premium human being who gave his only son to repent our sins. God is warmth, God is peace."

Mav <3
 
I think the latter part of your religious friends answer is right IMO. Idk, i see god not as any enetity of knowing or judging, as much as encompassing. Its hard to think of it, but i see god as the enternal present moment. like the moment that eveything in reality shares, this moment right now, thats god.
i wonder if people agree with that idea.

And zeitgeist shudent been seen as a kill to sprituality, just religion.
 
TearItDown said:
I understand that many people on here have had or still do have serious drug addiction problems. I don't mean to be anti-god, anti-religion but I'm pretty tired of seeing so many posts about god and religion.

I hate it when people say that they were saved by god, and god helped them get through their tough times. That isn't really true. YOU got yourself through the tough times. That was all you. There is no big guy up in the sky helping you become sober and safe. Everything happened because of people. Drastic, important changes occurred because of everyday people, because of ourselves. You may believe that god saved you, but he didn't. You saved yourself, YOU, the most important person in your life, YOU.

People need to understand that the way religion is practiced worldwide os detrimental to the advancement of humanity. I don't think religion is entirely pointless, don't put that in your head. Religion has a lot of important values to take and learn from. A couple weeks ago I was watching a pretty long and in depth program about Buddhism. I thought it was funny at times, because the stories were so fantastic and unrealistic, then it hit me. While some people actually believe the stories as fact, I saw them as tools to learn from. The teachings have higher motives, they may not be completely true at all, but you can learn a lot of good values from them.

I know my words will fall to deaf ears, but I just want to urge you all, don't put faith in god, put faith in yourself. In me, in your brothers and sisters, our mothers and fathers, in YOURSELF. Stop blaming god for bad things and praising him for good things. In the end, it's just us humans surviving through US. If god is so amazing to "his children" where has he been? If everyone would put more faith in humanity, maybe less would suffer because of conflicting religious views? Just some food for thought, I appreciate hearing your responses.
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No offence, i see your point, but u need to respect exoteric forms of healing. Of course the person did it them selves (esoteric knowledge) but they need a tool (god or angels) to help them do it, this would be exoteric healing. So even thought it would be better for them to understand their self power, if god helps em out of addiction, then by all means woruship w.e god. but if they become anvengelical and push ppl on to it, then fuck that shit.
It would be nice if people looked more at the esoteric side of religions (spirtual side) instead of the literal interpretational exoteric ones.
 
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