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So i had to go for about 3 hour drive to meet someone, havent been on hume for a while and didn't recall so many speed cameras, i got onto it, past a speed camera, past another one within about 5 minutes of each other. Then i got done on one about 15minutes further going about 130 on 110 road. Then their was a cop car parked a little further. I didn't get any more on the way to my destination as i was being precatious. However on my way back i was so over the drive so figured if i got behind a speeder i would see them get done first and no to slow down. However as i made this decision and had just got behind them i hit a speed camera. $50 petrol and 2 cameras made for a bad trip nights drive lol. Am curious though considering i was not the only person speeding and most of the way i was going the correct speed i saw a decent amount of cars overtaking me, so im wondering.. As they are so far out from anything is their a pretty high chance that they don't have any film in them?

P.S, its so rediculous to have gone past about 15 cameras their and back just on the one road. Other roads out of melbourne to other destinations have no where near this amount of speed cameras. I think having a speed camera and then one 1minute further down the road in numerous locations is abit unfair. It means people can get done doubly even if they accidently speeding just for a short minute and considering how tired you can get on a straight road that is done quite easily id assume.
 
Yeah sorry mate but I have to agree with COTB.

I mean seriously dude, you said yourself you saw 2 cameras before you got busted............ummmm, wasnt that a warning for you????


lol, cameras not have film...............yeah, believe that if it makes you feel better....lol.


By the way, if your so tired then you should not be driving at all.


If you take drugs then your only likely to hurt yourself. If your tired and drive or speed then you put everyone at risk.

Wake up.
 
Yeah i know its on me and all for speeding and i expected criticism because thats the easiest reply to retort just it was a long drive and with barely any cars and a strip in the middle to seperate trafic coming the other direction theirs was really no room for danger.

Seeming as though i passed 2 speed cameras i thought i would be alright to go a little bit over as its usually logical their won't be another one for some distance on most other roads in victoria. As it was a long drive that i thought was going to be much shorter i did want to pick up the pace abit. yes. and i have not gotten a speeding fine before, only a red light camera when i first got my license a few years back.

Anyway my question was about the possiblity of not getting caught for it, i know that that does happen with the older speeding cameras as its happened to numerous people i know including someone who was driving my car and went through a speeding camera and yet i never got a ticket for it.

and no i wasn't on drugs i was sober.
 
Were they they speed camera's mounted on a car or the fixed speed cameras which are on the hume?

No-one should speed but then I think speed cameras dont do much to reduce the road toll. Why allow cars to do over 200k, when you can only legally do at most 110 km on our roads?
 
sir pacman said:
Were they they speed camera's mounted on a car or the fixed speed cameras which are on the hume?

No-one should speed but then I think speed cameras dont do much to reduce the road toll. Why allow cars to do over 200k, when you can only legally do at most 110 km on our roads?
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It's a gritty situation;

the cars are mostly designed for european roads, which are in turn built to allow safe driving at 200km/h.

those are the same cars you can buy in Oz, but here the roads (for various reasons) can not safely handle speeds over 120km/h or so.
This is aside from allegations of less experienced or less responsible drivers in australia, it is also related to the large distances we have to cover and maintain roads on. Also an issue is the suicidal wildlife. (in Germany, deer have pedestrian overpasses with trees and vegetation to use to cross the highway with)

Truth of it is, this is not likely to change any time soon. If I could afford an Audi RS8 - that's an Audi

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RS8 -

I would seriously buy it in europe and keep it in europe, and drive it in its own element and to the best of its ability, instead of letting it get trashed in australia.
 
contrast dismissal said:
It's a gritty situation;

the cars are mostly designed for european roads, which are in turn built to allow safe driving at 200km/h.

those are the same cars you can buy in Oz, but here the roads (for various reasons) can not safely handle speeds over 120km/h or so.
This is aside from allegations of less experienced or less responsible drivers in australia, it is also related to the large distances we have to cover and maintain roads on. Also an issue is the suicidal wildlife. (in Germany, deer have pedestrian overpasses with trees and vegetation to use to cross the highway with).
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I wonder if its possible that they dont notice death tolls as much over there seeing as there are so many countries all cramped in together.

Any deaths here are ours.

A death over there may not be a local and hence may not be noticed as much.
 
OP - If the cameras involved are operational and you were traveling at a speed in excess of at least 10km/h over the designated speed limit and your operating a motor vehicle that is registered to you then you can expect to receive a traffic infringement notice in the mail.

The cameras don't have "film" in them and they do not need "film" so you can forget that idea. Now I have to say that I'm going to upset your little further.

The Hume Hwy has the latest in fixed speed camera technology (even though I believe Perth has had a similar system for a while) called Point-to-Point Traffic Speed Detection Fixed Cameras. This new system works by photographing a vehicle as it passes between two camera stations, it then calculates the time taken and works out the average speed of the vehicle. This calculation will then be compared to the authorised speed limit and if the motorist detected is exceeding that speed then they will be issued with an infringement.

These cameras aren't really all that new though, they have been operating since 2007 and not long after they started it was found that they weren't properly calibrated so you should feel confident that they work.

Also OP - I'm not telling you that your wrong in your opinion, but if you do feel that the amount of cameras are overkill then you should write to your local members or other road bodies for action. I doubt the victims of speed related fatalities would be too interested in your opinion though.

Good luck with the fine, I recommend paying it as you no doubt deserve it. Cheerio
 
Are speed cameras in Victoria not as well advertised here in NSW? With all the signs and warnings, you'd have to be seriously vague to drive through one here without realising it. Claytons policing at it's best in my opinion (and i'm not complaining).

Also, are you sure about the Point to Point stuff you mentioned Eggman? It's been in use here for trucks (called Safe-T-Cam), but not for cars. There has, however, been a hoax email circulating suggesting that the police are using the E-tag toll gates to calculate speed but i've not heard of anyone getting busted and have tested the system myself extensively.
 
They have just set up point to point cameras on the way to the Sunny Coast. They are set 13km before the northbound caloundra exit. I'm not sure if they are operational yet but I have hundreds of cars fly past me every week I drive up there so they will be making a killing if they are.

They have had them in Italian highways for years but they have service stations/rest areas set up just before the final camera so you can speed then have a coffee before continuing on. Yes I'm aware they could just stick to the speed limit and take just as long, but that's not the Italian way is it? ;)
 
100% sure about point-to-point

Also NSW has a set on the Sydney-Newcastle freeway. They are also able to adjust between 100km/h and 90km/h depending on if its raining or not.

Thanks for the heads up Busty. I have a unit at Alex Head (across the road from the surf club, sweeet) and I get a speeding fine just about every year I go up
 
eggman said:
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Also NSW has a set on the Sydney-Newcastle freeway. They are also able to adjust between 100km/h and 90km/h depending on if its raining or not.
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Are you sure? I thought they were just standard cams. They're spaced only about a kilometre apart (which I wouldn't have thought would give enough accuracy), going uphill and you'd have to be an idiot to miss them.

I have seen "aerial enforcement" when I drive south which i guess is a form of point to point. Something I thought they gave up on years ago.
 
They are technically point-to-point and they work the same way, however, they are not simple speed detection only cameras. They serve a range of purposes - all of which i'm not 100% sure about so I won't go into what I don't completely understand.

A colleague of mine (who explained them to me in the first place) is practically an expert on the issue and explained them to me. He got a bunch of speeding fines waived 5+ years ago because the serial numbers on the pictures didn't correspond properly with the offence. If I see him soon I will ask him, he loves talking about it so I'll no doubt have more info then we need
 
I've heard a lot of people saying aerial speed enforcement is making a comeback. I guess it's pretty easy to see who's being a dangerous jerk on a busy freeway from the sky.

I'm not really for it per se, I don't have a moral problem with people speeding, assuming they're not endangering people on a busy road. But the cunts who drive 3 feet off the back of someone in busy traffic, changing lanes erratically at 130+, I've no problem with the best technology being implemented to catch those pieces of shit.
 
Eggy I understood the ones on the Newcastle freeway were for RTA monitoring of traffic and heavy transport only.

Regards the aerial point to point, yes they have only recently made a come back..........I think middle of last year from memory. There was some media coverage when it happenned. The Hume down near Goulbourn I think it was has a stretch and they warn you with signs.
 
Op you cant complain, they're not even on half the time I know the cameras you mean and they're not point to point and they are not even on half the time.
 
It's pretty stupid to speed in Victoria due to the $$$ revenue they are. It's fairly well known they aren't there [mostly] to help save lives as from the various studies done, TAC decided to follow the 'worst' one, I think either from an Adelaide or Monash uni study that showed 5 below the speed limit saves lives. It only does *IF* all the various factors allowing it to work happen. Seeing the obstacle not to hit at the required distance, having the perfect working car/brakes to allow the braking distance to be same as the study. Most other studies do seem to show it is great speed variance from traffic flow is the greater cause of 'accidents', also 'stupid' high speed.

Also, Victoria as of December last year when I last checked, was/is the only state government that actually included speed camera fines in forecast budgets as revenue. Us Victorians won't be seeing a decline of speed cameras put in areas purely as revenue and not stopping any accidents. Also it's a traversity that the Aus legal rules can have a speedo 10% variance +/- from proper speed yet Victorian Speed cameras can get people speeding at 3% over the speed limit. Your speedo can be legal under Aus Design Rules but speed cameras can pick you up if you're doing say, 98 on your speedo (and real life speed is 106/7 for example).
 
sux2 said:
purely as revenue and not stopping any accidents.
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You cant make that claim. You dont know what may have happenned had they not been there.

Speed cameras are a necessary evil in the fight against safer driving.

For all you know, it could have been your life or that of a loved one that was saved by a speed camera.
 
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