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Which is most toxic out of LSD and Psylocybin Mushrooms?

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I know that LSD is one of the least toxic chemicals, but how does it compare to shrooms, my mate reckons shrooms are less toxic than LSD but i reckon the other way round?
 
out of those two, i will say neither. they are equally safe and harmless at reasonable dosages.

if you take 500g shrooms, you might see some toxicity on the serotonin system, but the raw shroom matter would give you more gastro distress as the human digestrive tract is not designed to process raw shroom matter (this is why we cook our food)

sorry, this is just a bad question
 
if you are eating field-picked shrooms, there is always the necessity of 100% positive identification. depending on which species you are hunting, there are a number of look-alike inactive (unknown toxicity, probably just give you an upset stomach) species. The Deadly Galerina needs no introduction, and can be found growing at the same time in the same place as Psi. cyanescens and related woodlover species.

but as long as you stick to 100% positively identified (habitat, morphology, spore print, etc) specimens, shrooms are safe.
 
As mentioned, the toxicity of both is negligible at best but I suppose 'shrooms would be more likely to make you feel ill if you munched a ridiculous amount - way more than anybody would ever actually take though, I suspect, and not caused by the sillypsibin so much as the mushroom matter itself as also mentioned. Toxicity just isn't an issue with the two substances in question :)
 
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The first part is easy. All it requires is simply the ability to throw yourself forward with all your weight, and the willingness not to mind that it's going to hurt.

That is, it's going to hurt if you fail to miss the ground. Most people fail to miss the ground, and if they are really trying properly, the likelihood is that they will fail to miss it fairly hard.

Clearly, it is the second part, the missing, which presents the difficulties.
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a la doug adams :)
 
Objectively, LSD's quite toxic, as the LD50 is 12,000 micrograms, or 12 milligrams*.The recreational dose is so low, and lsd is so expensive that it's never a problem. So gram for gram, LSD.

If we measured toxicity as the lethal dose divided by the recrational dose (known as the safety factor) I think mushrooms would be more toxic then.

*according to erowid; other sources have said 50,000 micrograms would be the ld50.
 
As nobody has ever taken a lethal dose of acid as far as I know I'd imagine those LD50 figures were somewhat debatable, myself. And there's quite a difference between 12 and 50mg too. There must be an LD50 for both drugs but for all practical purposes it's not something to be concerned about. There was the famous case of Tusko the Elephant or course, but people are not elephants and that was hardly a rigorous scientific study.
 
Cholly said:
Objectively, LSD's quite toxic, as the LD50 is 12,000 micrograms, or 12 milligrams*.The recreational dose is so low, and lsd is so expensive that it's never a problem. So gram for gram, LSD.

If we measured toxicity as the lethal dose divided by the recrational dose (known as the safety factor) I think mushrooms would be more toxic then.

*according to erowid; other sources have said 50,000 micrograms would be the ld50.
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Well, it should also be stated that recreational LSD doses tend to range in the hundreds of micrograms (say a "typical" hit of LSD would be sorta around 100 ug, but mileage varies a lot in reality, you can expect anywhere from ~60-250 ug, or even 0 ug, per hit depending on your source). If your tabs contained 100 ug each, you'd have to take 120 to hit the 12 mg mark, and 500 to reach 50 mg. If you're even thinking about doing that then you probably have other problems.
Having an unstable psychological background would be a bigger concern, especially if that includes schizophrenia.
 
greenmeanies said:
out of those two, i will say neither. they are equally safe and harmless at reasonable dosages.

if you take 500g shrooms, you might see some toxicity on the serotonin system, but the raw shroom matter would give you more gastro distress as the human digestrive tract is not designed to process raw shroom matter (this is why we cook our food)

sorry, this is just a bad question
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It is not a bad question.

The Smoking Man said:
Having an unstable psychological background would be a bigger concern, especially if that includes schizophrenia.
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More people have schizophrenic symptoms than you realize, and there is no proven connection between LSD psychosis and schizophrenia. It is just story to make kids feel safe. The connection lies in the frequency of time spent at the hospital, and the probability of getting correctly diagnosed.

Shambles said:
As nobody has ever taken a lethal dose of acid as far as I know
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There are two cases of lethal LSD poisoning referenced in "Criminal Poisoning: Clinical and Forensic Perspectives" 2011. A 34-year old male in 1975 and a 25-year old male in 1985. (and now you can't say that) as well as 8 other people who simultaneously overdosed and required medical care to survive.
 
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two drugs that every stupid human should try at least once in their small lives!

happy tripping earthlings!!

mushrooms do have the ability to make me feel poisoned though, whereas with lsd i just completely loose my ego and mind, what is body or poisoning?

get amongst it. its good for the psyche and the soul.
 
You can take a lot more psilocybin than you can LSD weight wise before dying so LSD would be considered to be more toxic in that sense. At recreational doses neither are toxic at all. Toxicity has nothing to do with "feeling poisoned", it is harm done to the body and the systems that enable it to function. They make you feel sick because these compounds bind to serotonin receptors and they do a lot more than make you see pretty colors obviously.
 
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