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Harmful cannabis use on the rise

"My auntie is in her only little world literally without her daily anti-psyche injections, do you really think giving her a bong instead of those injections would help stabilize her thoughts, delusions, voices and paranoia? It's the stupidest thing i've ever heard."

I simply said that SOME STUDIES have shown that SOME patients have shown an actuall improvement im their cases. I'm not saying your bloody auntie should go and have a bong mate, your being ridiculous now.

"Marijuana use helping schizophrenia patients? Smoking marijuana helping people with lung cancer?"

YES mate. As a matter of fact is DOES help with lung cancer. Don't you think that if all these weed smokers were getting lung cancer and dropping like flys that the government/ Health board would be parading around sets of black lungs telling us how bad it is for your lungs. No... Not one set of black lungs. Not one case of lung cancer from sole cannabis use. And not ONE single DEATH from said substance...


How can something that has literally cause not ONE single death remain illegal. When cigerettes and alcohol kill more people annually then all other drugs combined.

For gods sake ASPRIN and COFFEE have killed more people...imagine that?

But...no. The government doesn't want you to think that. They would like you to believe all of their little pamphlets and PDF downloads they provide and all of their little television adds that seem to have the same message "DRUGS = TOILET - Your drugs are made here. Your weed is grown in DEADLY setups that could EXPLODE and kill YOU! WATCH OUT FOR pot growers, it IS DEADLY! Its 20x stronger...this isnt the weed of the sixties no more folks! This is a super hybrid drug! STREET DRUG!"

I despise fear mongering and scare tactics.

Which is exactly what they do and will continue to do unless more people are aware of REAL facts and stop spreading myths that are perpetuated by ignorant people.


I know you don't want to belive such wild claims as what i have stated. But i wouldnt be making them if i didnt believe it and KNOW that it was all correct. I feel very strongly about the topic..

I CAN provide back up for all my claims as well. But i implore you to do your OWN resaerch into the matter as there is nothing like finding the information yourself..then you only have to distrust your eyes and not my words.


:-D have at it hoss.
 
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I wish I had $1 for every time the weed debate came to a head :p

Unfortunately, peoples subjective experiences of and relationship towards the drug are forever going to shape their opinions with regard to public policy development.... My old lady lost the plot as well from smoking the stuff - however, I believe that her mass consumption of it merely happened to trigger the pre-existing tendencies/chemical predisposition towards mania & psychosis. Fortunately for some smokers, these tendencies are not with them from birth.

Seeing as anyone can buy black market drugs, it is impossible to screen certain individuals out from obtaining & consuming it. Like any drug, weed is certainly capable of bringing out and potentiating the worst in people, particularly those using it as a mode of daily escapism. Moreover, it can be equally as difficult getting people to admit their motivations in the first place. There is a big difference between the user who puffs here & there on the weekend, and the addict who can't manage a good night's rest without the bong on hand....
 
@MrIbis
I just wanted to say, sorry to hear about how much weed has messed up your mum. But I also think you should consider what if she had've been a heroin addict the last 25years (wild guess) instead of a mariujana addict. Your heroin withdrawels whilst not as severe as what your mum may be like, but that isn't to say that over longer periods heroin wouldn't be far worse.
I know very little about heroin, it's not something I have read into, so most of what I know is the propaganda thats been shoved down my head since i was a kid.

My Dad is so anti-drugs that he for years had photo's on the fridge of what heroin "will" do to me if i took it, and had photos of people who have abused the drug to no ends.

I will always consider weed a far lesser drug, but I do consider the side affects to be very much real. And I agree that factors of weed are also good in some cases.

It's much of a muchness though, and maybe your right, maybe it is less harmful then ciggarettes or alcohol. But that said, the uproar if one of those were tried to be banned is huge, and they do try to cut them both down. Higher taxes on alcohol, less smoking in public venues etc.
But in their eyes if cannabis was legalised it would be taking a step backwards not forwards, I completely believe weed should be used medicinally, especially considerring these cases that it has been shown that you kind enough to link me too.

But I still don't think it should be legalised for everyone. Tough call though tough call :)


Party Safe bluelighters, my dinner is awaiting =D
 
"My auntie is in her only little world literally without her daily anti-psyche injections, do you really think giving her a bong instead of those injections would help stabilize her thoughts, delusions, voices and paranoia? It's the stupidest thing i've ever heard."

I simply said that SOME STUDIES have shown that SOME patients have shown an actuall improvement im their cases. I'm not saying your bloody auntie should go and have a bong mate, your being ridiculous now.

"Marijuana use helping schizophrenia patients? Smoking marijuana helping people with lung cancer?"

YES mate. As a matter of fact is DOES help with lung cancer. Don't you think that if all these weed smokers were getting lung cancer and dropping like flys that the government/ Health board would be parading around sets of black lungs telling us how bad it is for your lungs. No... Not one set of black lungs. Not one case of lung cancer from sole cannabis use. And not ONE single DEATH from said substance...


How can something that has literally cause not ONE single death remain illegal. When cigerettes and alcohol kill more people annually then all other drugs combined.

For gods sake ASPRIN and COFFEE have killed more people...imagine that?

But...no. The government doesn't want you to think that. They would like you to believe all of their little pamphlets and PDF downloads they provide and all of their little television adds that seem to have the same message "DRUGS = TOILET - Your drugs are made here. Your weed is grown in DEADLY setups that could EXPLODE and kill YOU! WATCH OUT FOR pot growers, it IS DEADLY! Its 20x stronger...this isnt the weed of the sixties no more folks! This is a super hybrid drug! STREET DRUG!"

I despise fear mongering and scare tactics.

Which is exactly what they do and will continue to do unless more people are aware of REAL facts and stop spreading myths that are perpetuated by ignorant people.


I know you don't want to belive such wild claims as what i have stated. But i wouldnt be making them if i didnt believe it and KNOW that it was all correct. I feel very strongly about the topic..

I CAN provide back up for all my claims as well. But i implore you to do your OWN resaerch into the matter as there is nothing like finding the information yourself..then you only have to distrust your eyes and not my words.


:-D have at it hoss.

Man i'm a weed smoker myself, i know all of what you're claiming, but i take all these research claims with a grain of salt. Some studies have shown that some people have benefits to their mental state through weed use, i call bullshit on that. And i'm talking skitzophrenics obviously, not trying to change the debate.

Also i beleive that burning any matter is going to produce carcenogens, be it tobacco, meat, bread or weed. But consuming carcenogens dosnt just equate to cancer, i beleive that has alot to do with ones diet, but thats for another debate.

But weed HAS been shown to reduce the size of cancerous tumours, but i dont beleive burning weed and inhaling the smoke is the way to treat people with lung cancer. Eating it however(or some other kind of non smoke lung delivery method) would have huge benefits for the person, for obvious reasons apetite ect. I just thought it is stupid to beleive smoke a plant is going to help someone with LUNG cancer.

As for cannabis alone causing cancer, a multitude of everyday shit we consume contains carcenogens, but like i was saying earlier, i beleive it comes down to ones diet, or maybe even perhaps genetic susceptibility, as we all know seemingly perfect people who appear to do the right thing by themselves on a daily basis for years develop heart conditions, strokes, cancer ect. So in short, obviously burnt weed contains carcenogens, but thats not the issue.

And i admit that stupid article is mad sensationalism. I've never known anyone to go to the hospital for cannabis dependency, its almost like someone showing up in the ER because they havn't smoked a ciggarette in 24 hours. The bit about cannabis intoxication is even fucking stupider, not even going to comment on that.

But mental problems albiet psychosis is a bit of an exaggeration, is a mad real potential result of consuming weed on a daily basis. I beleive mostly when people start using it before their brains have finally developed.

But yeah, basically my point is that cannabis isnt some deadly hardcore substance, but it does require a degree of respect for what it could potentially do to your mind.

Doing weed daily isn't healthy, and isnt beneficial to your life, when you look at the bigger picture. But in saying that i dont agree with it, or honestly any drug being illegal.

Alot of the shit that goes down, negative consequences and what have you is a direct result of, or exaggerated by prohibiting drug use, which we all know is one thousand percent inevitable anyway.

When you realise the fact that however many decades of fighting recreational(well all use really) drug use hasn't resulted in lower rates of drug use, but has just created a situation where people who arent bad are stigmatised for doing something that alot of the time isnt harming anyone but themselves, you start to think well is creating a thriving unregulated black market benefitting society? My answer is no, obviously not. And drug users arent bad people, almost every single person uses drugs, and those who dont are trying to make a neuron fire some other way.

So no matter how dangerous drugs are, i beleive they all should be legalised, regulated and taxed, with the resulting revenue pumped back into healthcare and whatever else would benefit society. I'm sick of this culture of people thinking everything that isn't 100% without risk of injury or whatever should be banned due to healthcare concerns and shit. Thats what hospitals are there for, and would you people also like to see every extreme sport, every little dangerous thing banned? What a stupid fucking society that would be. People have the right to do whatever drugs they chose so long as they're doing it in a responsible manner.

But the reality and bigger picture of my little dream is stopped in its tracks by the fucked up reality of our society. We live in a society that is 100% controlled by money, where a select few rule and live in luxary at the expense of the rest of the human population.

People have forgotten that the government is not societies parent, but a representitive of society. People are too fucking soft to stand up to the government and tell them to fuck off out of our lives.

The people in power do not have our best interests at heart, they're not acting as a representitive of our society. They're fucking us in the ass while being paid off by pharma companies, tobacco, car, logging you name it.

We're being completely fucked in the ass. Who here really beleives the governments of the world(and its not just australia, do your research), want to put an end to internet neutrality and create a list of restricted websites, that we're not allowed to know about, who buys into the save the children bullshit? It's all about supressing information from the society they're sposed to be representing. We rule the government, not the other way around, we pay them. It will create a system where the government and pick and choose whatever information they want supressed from the public. And that is because the internet is the final frontier for independant media, and news that is free of propaganda.

Then when you look into the economic system, fractional reserve banking and what have you, you start to realise just how badly the average person, and our society as a whole is being fucked in the ass.

What it comes down to is greed, things that truely benefit society as a whole, arent profitable to those at the top, and dont help them control us like the sheep we truely are. Any amazing idea that would benefit mankind, without costing mankind is stopped in its tracks by those at the top. And thats fact.

These people at the top, who arent the government, but who pay the government off ect, cannabis very much directly is in conflict with their best interests. Here you have a plant with a multitude medicinal and industrial uses, arguably the most versitile plant to exist on our planet, yet it can be quite easily cultivated by individuals for personal use, and the medicine and industrial products would be less profiting to those at the top.

The influence those at the top have over society is huge, to the point, we're actually beleiving the lies that we've been taught for hundreds of years.

So in summary; weed isn't a harmless wonder drug, but it's potential dangers are exaggerated for reasons i stated above, whether people actually buy into the lies or are acting in direct favour of keeping the status quo for those at the top to prosper at our expense. It has very real risks to it's use, but in saying that it could be of insanely huge benefit to our society if implemented in the right fasion.

The whole of above is my beleif and opinion reguarding the big corporations, drug prohibition, society and government. I love weed and consume the shit on a daily basis since i was 14 years old, but i'm not deluding myself about it's reality.

End painful rant, cheers for reading i know it must have been an effort../
 
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^ Read it all, loved it.

Agree with most of it.

But over these last 3 pages of reading stuff, links from TrippAR and your massive rant 8L4YN3 I think I have switched sides. I think I've just become Pro cannabis becoming legal. Mostly due to your bits about how can someone tell me what I can and can't take if it's not overly dangerous.

I still think heavier drugs should be banned, because people may be unaware of how severe the risks are. But with somethnig like weed, majority of people are very unlikely to go psychotic from trying it out. Yup... I've switched sides,

GO MARIJUANA! :p
 
Would like to examine some of the issues of long term cannabis use with a particular focus on the Public Health Model, as a means of examining drug use within the context of, Drug, Set and Setting.

A number of years ago when I was an alcohol and other drugs counsellor, Bob (not his real name and no I’m not a journo) presented to me, following a referral from a mental health team with a diagnosis of a significant cannabis related, psychotic episode. In his words, “It was terrifying!” He was hearing voices and had terrifying visual hallucinations following his morning wake up, ‘Session’. Bob stated that he had a 10 year history of heavy cannabis use with no problems and no history of mental health issues for himself or any of his biological family. For him coffee and cones was his prerequisite to starting the day followed by more of the above across his daily routine.

So what was different about this day? Why would someone present with no issues or quantifiable drug related problems over his cannabis using history? Within the context of the Drug, he was a heavy cannabis user, with a 10 year history of use with no identifiable issues. He was familiar with the drug and grew the cannabis himself and had no concerns with regard to the quality of what he was growing and smoking. In the context of Setting, he was at home in a very familiar, non threatening environment, nothing out of the ordinary. No immediate or perceivable threats.

With regard to Set, or his psychological makeup and other individualistic aspects of himself. At the time of his psychotic episode, things were definitely out of the ordinary and far from ideal. He was going through a relationship breakup with his partner of 10 years. He was emotionally devastated by this, not sleeping, not eating well and was extremely stressed by the whole ordeal. The love of his life was leaving him. He was experiencing a major life event and understandably was not coping.

At the risk of simplifying things, the cumulative effect of what was going on for him followed by his morning cannabis session; I believe pushed him over the edge, culminating in a terrifying event that was completely out of the ordinary with regard to his drug using history.

I suppose the point I’m trying to illustrate is that it’s very easy to simplify drug using behaviour and focus solely on the substance or the chemical in question. In the above scenario, the coffee and cones on that particular morning was the straw that broke the camel’s back. It was one factor on a continuum of unpleasant events, culminating in a life changing event. Sleep deprivation alone can cause hallucinations and in the extreme, death. The Americans have perfected this as a form of torture at Guantanamo Bay. Relationship breakdown is well documented as one of life’s most unpleasant events. Not eating well, particularly within the context of the above, creates physiological issues with regard to blood sugar and a whole range of other biological/physiological issues, i.e. brain chemistry? His expectations and perceived benefits with regard to smoking cannabis on that particular morning were at odds with all of the above.

Yes, long term smokers/drug users will present with drug related issues at medical settings. I have no issue with the evidence of this phenomenon. The cumulative effect of any persistent behaviour has the potential to create problems for some individuals whereas others have the resilience to work through these issues with or without the issue of drug use. As to the context of the presenting drug related behaviour, it is far too easy to diagnose a cause and effect relationship between drug use and the presenting problem without looking at the bigger picture.

After all, “Drugs are Bad, mmmKay!”

With regard to some of the above posts, I am neither pro drug, nor anti drug. Drugs are drugs; it’s a part of the human condition. There will always be degrees of harm from minimal to extreme with all aspects of the human experience and not just limited to the use of drugs. I believe that prohibition adds another layer of harm to that continuum.
Just for the record, I am unequivocally, PRO HARM REDUCTION. I dream of the day when governments will be providing funding for Bluelight without bureaucratic, ideological government constraints. But as deluded as it might sound, I actually think one day it will happen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It’s nice to dream :)
 
Top post again De_quincy, since you've joined this site I think nearly every post you have posted has been spot on.

Like you I feel drugs are drugs and I am Pro Harm Reduction above all else. Ever considerred politics? I'd vote for you :P
 
Good post 8L4YN3, I agree with most of what you said.

I am pro legalisation of ALL drugs, especially cannabis, I think a lot of naive smokers deny the shit out of the potential negatives of cannabis (I was one of them until about a year ago) and seem to almost think its fucking good for you.

I can say in all honesty, it has caused me problems with anxiety which affect me to this day. It definately made me very anti social at the time I was smoking a few grams a day and I would cough up black phlegm often. I weighed significantly less than I do now with a similar diet, although I do admit I also used amphetamines quite heavily during this time.

I still love marijuana, infact I have been smoking it daily since my last clean drug test (silly me) but to say that heavy use has no impact on ones mental health and physical is ignorant. Also I personally find marijuana addictive. I have often fucked up and smoked it at stupid times even though I take drug tests, if its there I just find it so hard to say no. Infact last time I smoked before my most recent drug test I told myself I wasn't going to smoke, got offered and smoked right away but turned down a free burn of meth that same night, and consciously I prefer the effects of meth to marijuana! I don't know what it is for me personally but I find marijuana the most addictive out of all drugs I have tried and I have tried many. I am aware that I am a rare case and for the most part this isn't true but for anyone who says weed isn't addictive at all they are definately wrong.

Even still though what does it matter? We are here living our own lives, we aren't wrapped in cotton wool and taking risks is where a lot of the fun in life comes from. It is ridiculous for a Government to disallow a person to explore altered states of consciousness in the privacy of their own hone and an atrocity that one may actually face incarceration for doing so!
 
So something that would be reasonable would be, legality of personal possession and intoxication within a home, but not in a public place for drugs that would otherwise be illicit?

I would be very pro something like that, one of my biggest concerns about the legalisation of drugs (not cannabis) is the way people behave on them in public places. I've seen one of my best mates get furious on MDMA

Have myself been and friends done angry stupid shit on Meth

And have been so uneasy with my surroundings on mushrooms (clubbing in the city terrible terrible idea) that I felt like lashing out at the next person to walk past me.

But in the privacy of ones own home with their own body I think it's OK for people to experiment. something like that I would vote for. Not because I think it's perfect, but I think it has less holes then the current system of going through the black market to get goods, constantly being at risk of being caught.

In many careers background checks are done, and this prevention of getting certain jobs is more then not more harmful then the drug itself.

So a legalisation of drug use within ones own home I approve of, but the reality is that people would still go out and act out on these substances =(

The government should lighten up instead of coming down harder on drugs. You only live once, so let people live a little.

I would love to see a trial run of legalisation of cannabis for 12months, and weigh up all the pro's and con's. Governments need to take a step in a controversial direction like a slow legalisation of drugs in certain conditions to see where it could leed up.

Although I guess this article was about the long term damage and addiction of weed, hardly something that 12months would give a fair trial for.... *sigh*
 
...Even still though what does it matter? We are here living our own lives, we aren't wrapped in cotton wool and taking risks is where a lot of the fun in life comes from...

I couldn't aggree more. Everybody has to weigh their own personal risks for themselves, because everybody wants different things out of life and some want more risky things than others. I jumped out of an aeroplane once, its a risky sport, but the half a minute free-fall was unbelievable. I know other people however who would never unnecessarily risk their life for 30 seconds of anything, even if its one-million to one odds they'll be fine.

That said, I don't actually mind government health campaigns warning people of the risks of things - such as those horror pictures on cig packs, or those new teen drinking adds, even some of the drug adds are okay (though not perfect.)

Not one set of black lungs. Not one case of lung cancer from sole cannabis use. And not ONE single DEATH from said substance...

How can something that has literally cause not ONE single death remain illegal. When cigerettes and alcohol kill more people annually then all other drugs combined.

For gods sake ASPRIN and COFFEE have killed more people...imagine that?

I believe the statistic you are referring to is that "no one has ever died of a known cannibis OVERDOSE."

Apart from a handful of cases where people have combigned nicotine patches, nicotine gum, and cigarettes, nobody dies of a nicotine OVERDOSE from smoking cigarettes either. They die from long term health problems to which smoking cigarettes contributes or exacerbates. And I'm sure heavy weed use has contributed to comaparable long term effects for some people - ie. heart disease and various cancers. This however would be hard to measure as patients rarely tell their doctors they smoke weed, heart disease and cancer occur anyway, and many heavy weed smokers would also smoke tobacco.

And I'm not actually certain that this cannibis overdose claim is necessarily true. I believe this "statistic" is based on the notion that you can't smoke untill you die because you green out long before lethal levels are reached and are incapable of delivering more into your system while in this state. People may have died from eating a hash cookie overdose before though, or from making THC extractions, I don't know.

In regard to alcohol, I think accidents that occur to people whilst they are drunk may be included in the alcohol death statistics, as well as harms caused to other people by drunks. People do get stoned, drive, and then die in the resulting car crashes. I think there was a stoned truck driver in Vic a couple of years ago who wiped out a family in a car, please include this in your weed statistics :)

And coffee? Well maybe.. But unless you have a seriously dicky heart its very hard to overdose on actual coffee (though of course quite possible on caffeine pills and powders) I think a normal person has to drink two strong cups an hour for 50 straight hours before they reach potentially lethal levels, because the body matabolises it quite easily even if your still drinking more. Then again I have serious ongoing problems with my coffee drinking, sometimes I choose buying coffee over buying food, and the withdrawls are the worst headaches I have ever had in my life :!

I don't think I have anything more to contribute to this argument, though I will continue to read future posts with interest.
 
Argh lol!

THERE HAS NEVER BEEN ANY DEATH FROM CANNABIS. NOT ONE SINGLE DEATH PERIOD. Literally ALL possible ways NEVER occured. Never a death, never will be a death. You cannot eat a hash cookie big enough to OD. You have to smoke or ingest several pounds in 15 minutes or less.


Anyways.


My end point is that I do not smoke tobacco, therefore i believe marijuana on its own to be perfectly harmless FOR ME PERSONALLY as i have no history of mental ilness (pot will not give me one either), i have no respatory problems. I went and got a lung test 2 years ago and my capacity and overall lung stregth has NOT CHANGED (only 2.3%) but the doc said that was negliglble as we live in the city..sad. BUT! Doesnt this at least show somewhat that the smoke isnt actually that dangerous. Its only bad because the actual properties of smoke stop silica from occuring which is the lungs natural cleaning process...

But im DONE ! Rather over writing massive posts for now haha I hope i taught some people some stuff. It feels good to be able to contribute well after reading for so long !


Cheers..

P.s everyone should watch a movie called "THE UNION"
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-9077214414651731007#

And everyone if you would like to know the real state of affairs of this world then refef to this movie. Zeitgeist! Amazing shit..pretty much everything 8L4YN3 was going on about i'd say ;-) I think there is probably a few of us in here that know whats really up.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-594683847743189197#
 
^ You can make all the claims you want about marijuana being fine for your lungs but in my experience that is so far from the truth. A few years ago I was on hiatus from smoking bongs, still smoking cigs, and I stated boxing up again. I got way fitter in a period of a few months and then started smoking bongs heavily again. My fitness deteriorated quickly and every session was becoming harder to put in the effort. Not to mention the black mucus I started to cough up after a few years of heavy bong smoking.

It is my opinion that marijuana smoke is probably less carcinogenic than tobacco smoke but that it is also harsher and worse for your lungs from a fitness perspective. Obviously I am not a doctor but it is my experience that weed has a more profound effect on cardiovascular fitness than tobacco does.
 
^ You can make all the claims you want about marijuana being fine for your lungs but in my experience that is so far from the truth. A few years ago I was on hiatus from smoking bongs, still smoking cigs, and I stated boxing up again. I got way fitter in a period of a few months and then started smoking bongs heavily again. My fitness deteriorated quickly and every session was becoming harder to put in the effort. Not to mention the black mucus I started to cough up after a few years of heavy bong smoking.

It is my opinion that marijuana smoke is probably less carcinogenic than tobacco smoke but that it is also harsher and worse for your lungs from a fitness perspective. Obviously I am not a doctor but it is my experience that weed has a more profound effect on cardiovascular fitness than tobacco does.

Were those bongs or were they tobacco and cannabis?

Anyhow as I previously stated a recent survey showed that cannabis didn't contribute to lung cancer but was still bad for the lungs.

And TrippAR is correct, there has never been a death souly from cannabis, short term or long term, it does not severe enough to kill at all. That isn't to say it still isn't bad for you though.
 
One thing we shouldn't forget is that long term smoking of anything can result in COPD which is the forerunner to emphysema.

To quote Wiki: Worldwide, COPD ranked as the sixth leading cause of death in 1990.
 
I didn't argue against the lack of deaths caused by cannabis, but imho it would be pretty ignorant to presume there weren't a decent number of deaths that cannabis contributed to heavily, both through lung damage contributing to emphysema and motor accidents.

TripppAR was talking about the lack of negative effects on his lungs caused by cannabis so I was just commenting on my experience which is quite different.
 
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Pfffft pleaaaase .

Cannabis dependence is there but wow , who the fuck goes to hospital for it .

It's NO WHERE near that bad .


Shows Aussies are pussies haha .

... I joke sorry
 
Not that I think you can compare herion and cannabis, but i have seen the negative effects of both drugs in my family.
I had a partner who was an ex herion addict. She said the first time she used it it made her sick the second she time she used she knew she was an addict. Ended up stealing over $40k from her parents to support her habit plus a whole lot of other bad shit.
My brother "disappeared" for 6mths because of herion, mum found him on the streets and brought him back home and got him better.
He then spent the next ten years smoking pot and the change in his personality was obvious....
Both bad but very different, i would say though that cannabis in moderation is possible.
There aren't many people who can use herion moderately.
 
Lol at our friend over from Canada :p

And at Drug_mentor I didn't mean to sound like I thought you were arguing against the lack of deaths :s

Purely I meant to back up TripppAR's claim independently :p

And sucks about the lung damage you have taken D_M, Moderation is the key.

Party safe
 
The amount of people attending cannabis help has increased because it's the best option when it comes to getting caught with cannabis on you. Oh yes im an addict, I will attend this bullshit act so as to avoid jailtime/a massive fine. I fucking hate the media cunts. Hopefully they get cancer.
 
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