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Oxymorphone - New Experience - I am disappoint

Noboru Wataya

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I picked up some opana ER 20's the other day, 7 of them to be exact. now, i've never been one to bitch about prices but i paid $XX each for these and was expecting great things to come. i've never paid more than $X/mg but i figured there was something special about oxymorphone.

anyway...

the first night i got them, i waited until about 9pm to take them. until that time, i spent hours on bluelight researching the drug in my bedroom. i read trip reports and experiences from erowid.org. basically i found out that swallowing opana is a waste. this really bummed me out. i'm an oral route kind of guy. i'm really a hydrocodone kind of guy, not really into oxy any more at all (weird i know). i don't bang anything into my veins and i don't snort stuff up my nose. i'm not knocking it, i'm just saying i'm not comfortable with it.

i made an exception on the opana since i paid so freakin much for it. so alone in my room, i shaved the green coating off the outside of the pill, crushed half of it (10mg) up on my countertop, rolled up a twenty and snorted the white powder up into my nostrils. it didn't burn. it was VERY smooth but not very pleasant to taste.


+ 15 min: i'm sweating. i don't feel the usual oxycodone warmth and tingle in my outer extremities. i just feel hollow, weighed down. i'm pale and sweaty.

+ 30 min: i'm still sweating. i feel like snorting the pill is robbing me of some part of myself that i had up until insufflation (dramatic). i smoke some pot. that helps. i feel more normal and level headed, less depressed. i begin coughing from the smoke and hack up some pretty nasty shit from my postnasal drip. i continue "dragging" on my postnasal and get up some stuff that feels harder than mucus and after inspection is kind of white. it's the powder, it's gelled up on me (i should have swallowed it but i spit it in the trash).

+ 60 min: i'm in the bed. i'm not nodding (very disappointing), i'm not tired, but i'm also not jacked and happy. it's getting annoying. i snort another 5 mg.

+ 90 min: i'm still in bed, watching television. where the hell is the euphoria? all i feel is disoriented and angry from paying too much for pills i don't enjoy. i get over the anger and just watch some NCAA BB highlights and fall asleep.

that's it really. the next morning i felt like shit. my nose was all fucked up. i called my dealer back and asked to trade them back to him for some percocets or something with a "codone" at the end of it. he obliges me and happily takes back his pills. we have a conversation about opana and he tells me he loves them. he also mentions that he knows he shouldn't IV pills but these opanas are a lot stronger that way and a waste of money if you're just going to swallow them, even crushing and swallowing. the oral bioavailability is something like 10%. i know that different opiates affect different people, well, differently. but why would chemists make a drug that is designed for oral administration but has such low oral bioavailability?

oxymorphone is not for me though. i'm very glad i got to try one of, for me, the more rare opiate painkiller pills. i actually still have about 15 mg of this stuff at home that i couldn't sell back to my guy. i'm not sure what i'll do with it.

i wish they made a high dose hydrocodone pill without APAP (not syrup, i know about syrup..). i'd never ask for anything else. from this whole situation i arrived at a conclusion about myself and drugs. i don't care about the intensity of a drug's effect on me. i don't care about how "strong" or potent something is. in this case, i'd rather have the much "lighter" hydrocodone, even in smaller doses, than any amount of oxymorphone. i simply do not enjoy the buzz of the latter. 10mg (and beyond of course) hydrocodone better suits my drug style and comfort level and is more enjoyable than any amount of oxymorphone or even oxycodone.


thanks for reading,

nw

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Thanks for sharing. I've heard a couple of people say they don't care for oxymorphone, and a couple of more say they love it. And the vast majority of people have never even heard of it, let alone tried it. :)
 
I cant see why people overlook oxymorphone. It is so much stronger than oxycodone mg for mg. After trying opana it was nearly impossible to go back to oxycodone, unless i wanted to spend my entire paycheck in 2 nights lol.
 
I cant see why people overlook oxymorphone. It is so much stronger than oxycodone mg for mg. After trying opana it was nearly impossible to go back to oxycodone, unless i wanted to spend my entire paycheck in 2 nights lol.

i hear ya oppy. when i returned the pills to my dealer he said i was like the first person he'd ever heard say they didn't like opana. i must be very strange. but nonetheless, i sincerely do not enjoy the morphone high. i got ahold of some dilaudid yesterday and tried it...again it's just not what I look for in an opiate/opioid high (i'm not sure about the distinction here). i utse'd and read the opana report that'd been posted before mine and it's strikingly similar.

mg for mg, oxymorphone is supposed to be 2-3x as strong as oxycodone, according to the opana website. i cannot confirm that. i could say that the effects certainly last longer but they were not more intense in any sense.
 
Did everyone forget the amount as well as ROA that is correct in order to get high on this drug.

From worst to best:
Shitty orally.
Terrible nasally.
Disappointing rectally.

Fucking famtastic I.V.ed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Under-dose or Overdose? sorry for length but read it.

Opana is kind of hard to abuse recreationally, if you don't do it just right you could fail to get high. There are other smaller things, but a few main points to keep in mind with opana:

1) Use it at least 1/2 hr. after a big-ish meal (preferably fatty food). I found from experience that this not only increases bio-availability, but also makes the high more comfortable/euphoric.

2) Check your snorting technique: because of the gelling factor, it's important to get as fine a powder as possible. Simply crushing/chopping is no good IMO. I rub that shit on a hose clamp slooow (now we're talkin). Also saline-wash and dry your nose out prior because boogers and moisture increase gelling, and snort it just to the top of the nasal passage, not into the sinus. If you get a drip, you did it wrong.

3) Titrate your dose. This means start low, then add every 45 min. or so until you're groovy. It's very easy to overdose on opana, even an unnecessary milligram of OM could do it.

A question for you now: what is your perfect dose of hydrocodone? Is it really around 10mg? Keep in mind that snorted opana is at least 3-4x more potent per mg than oxycodone. And oxycodone is 1.5x the potency of hydrocodone. So transitively, snorted opana is around 5x as potent as hydrocodone.

^Let's be generous and say you absorbed only 7mg of the 10 because of gelling. So 7x5 is 35. You took roughly the equivalent of 35mg hydrocodone, which does not factor in the intense opana "rush" that will make it feel like more than that until the high plateaus, and eating hydrocodone delays/weakens the onset, so let's say (after assuming the loss due to snorting problems) your opana dose should have felt more like 40-45mg hydrocodone initially.

Having said all this, is it possible you could have overdosed? How would 35-45mg of hydrocodone make you feel, and what is the maximum you could handle? I find that when I overdose on opana, I could easily have mistaken it for an under-dose, because I feel irritated, hot/sweaty, and feel ZERO opiate-warmth.
 
It sounds like you just pulled too much through, and got more of an oral 'high' rather than the snorted effects. You have to sniff lightly with morphone, so you don't pull it through. But when it's chopped up good, and sniffed correctly, it's amazing.


But, people like the drugs they like. Good luck with the remaining of your stuff, brah.
 
Having said all this, is it possible you could have overdosed? How would 35-45mg of hydrocodone make you feel, and what is the maximum you could handle? I find that when I overdose on opana, I could easily have mistaken it for an under-dose, because I feel irritated, hot/sweaty, and feel ZERO opiate-warmth.

i really doubt it. i averaged 80mg oxycodone/day for about six months during my most abusive binge. i can handle up to about 100mg of hydrocodone in a day without feeling too nasty. 35-45mg would have me happy as a Hindu cow. but really, i don't like to push it like that. that's why i mentioned 10mg being perfect. it relaxes me, gives a little buzz/euphoria but isn't too heavy. most importantly, that dose doesn't concern/worry me while i'm taking it. i have a tendency to worry about overdose while intoxicated (i'm a pussy).

i've still been messing some with the little bit of OM. i crushed it up finer after reading your posts and got less gelling. it was a bit more intense but still not the same quality of a hydrocodone high. i even smoked some FINE powder mixed in a bowlpack of good herb. that was a rush but tasted nasty (i know fully how bad this is for my lungs and throat).

anyway, it's (the opana) almost gone and i've tapered down to 15mg hydrocodone/day now so i should be ready to stop for a while in a few days. yaaaay!
 
i really doubt it. i averaged 80mg oxycodone/day for about six months during my most abusive binge. i can handle up to about 100mg of hydrocodone in a day without feeling too nasty. 35-45mg would have me happy as a Hindu cow. but really, i don't like to push it like that. that's why i mentioned 10mg being perfect. it relaxes me, gives a little buzz/euphoria but isn't too heavy. most importantly, that dose doesn't concern/worry me while i'm taking it. i have a tendency to worry about overdose while intoxicated (i'm a pussy).

i've still been messing some with the little bit of OM. i crushed it up finer after reading your posts and got less gelling. it was a bit more intense but still not the same quality of a hydrocodone high. i even smoked some FINE powder mixed in a bowlpack of good herb. that was a rush but tasted nasty (i know fully how bad this is for my lungs and throat).

anyway, it's (the opana) almost gone and i've tapered down to 15mg hydrocodone/day now so i should be ready to stop for a while in a few days. yaaaay!

Okay, so most likely you did not over-dose. I don't know about you, but the tell-tale sign that I have done the perfect dose is when I get real itchy. I don't get very itchy in the case of an under-dose OR an overdose even (<--weird).

The only time you should be really concerned about overdose is when you start using again after a period of abstinence (tolerance drop). If you've been using a good amount of hydrocodone the days prior then you should be straight.

Don't get me wrong, as strong as opana is, I must admit it's got to be one of the weirdest opiate highs ever. The high like switches back and forth between subtle/almost sober feeling, strong heavy-headed rushes, and adderall-like jitters in the spine. It's so erratic/unpredictable

For some odd reason the only point at which I'm at true bliss with opana is like 6 hours after the initial dose when I re-dose. The re-dose comes on much quicker, is much warmer/euphoric, and gives insane eye-rolling nods. I guess there's a "break-in" factor with OM lol.

Based on this I can see why you prefer hydrocodone, because like oxycodone, the high is comfortable, steady, and predictable.
 
I snort oxymorphone, never once have I had gelling. I think it is the most consistent producing opioid I have ever tried. I can use either 300-400mgs of oxycodone a day or use around 100mg of oxymorphone to set me for a day. The high from opana lasts longer, is more euphoric and gives me MORE energy than oxycodone ever did. It is the holy grail of opiates for me, considering I still have not tried heroin. But I have tried most other pharmaceutical opiates/opioids. The only real problem I see with opana is your tolerance goes sky high and withdrawing from it is pure hell. I am shuddering even thinking about those days :-(
 
Don't get me wrong, as strong as opana is, I must admit it's got to be one of the weirdest opiate highs ever. The high like switches back and forth between subtle/almost sober feeling, strong heavy-headed rushes, and adderall-like jitters in the spine. It's so erratic/unpredictable

Based on this I can see why you prefer hydrocodone, because like oxycodone, the high is comfortable, steady, and predictable.

perfect way to explain both my experience with OM and preferences for oxy and hydrocodone. i'm glad i did this report; now i understand a lot more about drugs and their effect on me. i understand the true difference between potency and quality or character.

erratic is NOT something i'm looking for in a high. steady comfort is prbly the best way to phrase what i enjoy about being high.
 
Disappointed as well

So I got about 48 hours of opioid sobriety and used the excuse of it being a close relatives birthday to be naughty, lol.

Opana skyrocketed my opioid tolerance it seems, well having been a heavy user years ago (not opiates really but a lot of benzos and ketamine and mdma, coke, some speed (wasnt really my drug thank god lol)

Apparently some people who used drugs heavily in the past have problems where medicines just aren't effective in regular doses. My internist MD knows all about my history, so he has to give me the strongest things for simple stuff...(like zofran for nausea...he said it was commonly prescribed to chemotherapy related nausea. Well 160mg of opana ER (4 40s) isnt even makin me nod out yet, that was about 32 minutes ago, ill wait a full hour before doing any more though, just to be on the safe side. I think it's just my ridiculous tolerance combined with eating a lot today and being about 140lbs overweight hahaha.

Starting to feel a little nauseous, uh oh, lol

Lied down for a while and took 8mg of zofran, hopefully no puking haha. Well, I guess if they just dont work for me recreationally anymore than maybe it's a blessing in disguise.

I'll just try to take em PRN when the pain is really bad, but I won't allow myself to get physically dependent on them, I'm too scared of having to go through crazy withdrawal and being totally hooked. I like the nod out feeling but it's just not worth all the negative side effects in my opinion lol, for me personally. I shouldnt have to do like 6 opana ER 40mg for a nod out lol, thats just insane to me lol, thank god my insurance pays for them, i think the going rate here, 6 of them would be like $360 rofl. That's about half my monthly rent! 8o

Anyways yea, I see what you guys are talkin bout with the disappointment....can doctors even prescribe the OC version of oxycontin in US? or does it have to be the OP? cuz those OP ones just sucked haha, I even tried doin the whole microwave/freezer thing and it was a totaol joke lol...using sandpaper to powderize them...I think my favorite opioid experience was a lot of oxycontin with multiple ROAs (nasal, swallowed whole, and chewed) about 400mg with 10mg of rohypnol. With my ridiculous benzo tolerance it was just enough to get me extremely euphoric and not pass out haha, which is hard to find sometimes lol. Anyways, it's too bad people used rohypnol as a date rape drug, or it might still be legal in the US, but who knows, I doubt it ever will be again, especially with drugs like alprazolam (Xanax( and triazolam (Halcion) still available Rx.

Ok sorry I'm babbling, so maybe the opana is kinda working? what a let-down lol.....I'm not too familiar with opioids and how quickly tolerance will go down....can anyone throw out a rough estimate? Cuz it seems that tolerance is different with different substances, lol, I wish oxymorphone tolerance was like cannabis :P

Ok it's been an hour but i dunno if I'll do another 80mg or not, apparently theres something in them that makes snorting em really unhealthy...Timerex or something, I know next to nothing when it comes to chemistry so....lol. Well more than that but, blahblahblah, jesus, im like a tweaker motormouth lol, or motorfingers...ok guys hope u all have a good evening, and if you're partying hopefully having more euphoria than me :P haha...

That zofran is so great, nausea gone in like 10 minutes, and they arent even the quick dissolve ones lol

Edit: OH! Hey morphine-type opiods, except dilaudid for some reason, give me the worst constipation imaginable lol, sorry TMI i know....whats the best OTC and/or Rx laxative for morphine related constipation? I'm sure some of you guys know! lol. Thanks :) (Ive tried taking this OTC stuff called "Leader" well basically I took 17.2mg of "sennosides" and 100mg of "docusate sodium" the pharmacist said some people have to take it everyday with the pain pills i was just like GD! lol The doctor said to eat lots of fruits and vegetables and drink tons of water, and if I still have issues combine it with another OTC one called Senekot? Never heard of it...I had a prescription one once tho, forget what it was called, ovular, red see-through geltab lol. Worked well, but I didn't have constipation from opioids it was from some anti-psychotic medication I was taking for insomnia, seroquel...or maybe it was zyprexa, one of the two. So give me a hand whats the BEST laxative for morphine type (oxymorphone) constipation, without turning you all acidic? lol..Oh and one other thing, Would anyone like to be friends and talk about drugs and other stuff on yahoo messenger sometime? lol Or ventrilo, aim msngr, etc etc, lol. Ok I'm really gonnna STFU this time lol, sorry :P

Peace,
Pauly~
 
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