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Few Benzo and Opiate Questions

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I am prescribed and take about 2mg of clonazepam (sometimes 3mg ;)) a day and, and have been on this regiment for about 2 weeks so I feel like my tolerance is building. took a 2mg dose after a long day. Slept like a freakin' baby for like 5 or 6 hours, woke up and decided to eat another 1.5mg. These didn't do to much for me and I was obviously looking for a little fun. So it's been about...an hour and a half or 2 hours since I took the Kpins. Also, on note with the benzo tolerance, I on occasion will eat 2 or 3mg and drink heavily, like a 40 and hard liquor or a 5th of a handle.

I also have about 35mg of oxy, and just did 5mg smoked. Got a little high but was interested in bumping more, and have never combined these two drugs. My breathing is a little slow (but it always is on oxy).

Mainly my question is, how cautious do I need to be with my doses on these drugs together? Especially with no opiate tolerance.

Just being cautious, sorry if this is the wrong place. :D
 
Ah thanks, I'm not AS worried as a few weeks ago I would eat 40-50mg of oxy a day, and I just quit for a month or so.

I was always interested in combining them, like REALLY interested so I just didn't want to overdo it off the bat. Well, this is incredible after smoking about 5 or so mg and snorting 5-10mg. It is like being opiated out with a light, floaty drunk feeling.

EDIT: I had never smoked OC before, but I have friends who fucking fiend for it. I like it so far, but it tastes like shit and I'm not sure if it is worth it. Can anyone elaborate a little as searching didn't yield very specific results for OC80's. (I would never smoke anything under, but I figured since I had these...)
 
how about withdrawals in the event that you can't get your supply? If you keep upping your dose, and stop all of a sudden (due to unforseen circumstances), you might suffer some intense withdrawals. I'm on between 2-3mg of klonopin a day. One day i thought fck it im off the meds, didn't take it for 2 weeks....within the end of the first week i was already feeling the anxiety and midway thru the 2nd week i had a panic attack and had no choice to continue the klonopin. Now i try to take it only when i need to (2-3 days a week).

This might be just me, but i don't want the drug to control me, I wan't to control the drug so that's why the question of tolerance and withdrawal comes to mind here. Moderation is the key.

Just my 2 cents worth.
 
Well, my question wasn't "I am addicted to benzo's, explain to me why they aren't good". I realize there are many dangers with these medications, and I was on them for 7 months, quit for 6 years, and then started again for anxiety issues. I am glad for your concern, but I was curious about how benzodiazepines and opiates would interact and how paranoid I needed to be.

If I cannot get my supply, I have xanax for anxiety attacks that I do not use otherwise and am not worried. I am under care for my anxiety, and would like to continue helping me as they are helpful in my situation.
 
When combining opiates and benzos, be very conscious of your doses, and try to keep them low as possible. You need to be extra careful of the compounded depression of your CNS when combining the two. Also, smoking OC is a big waste as far as I am concerned. Just snort little bumps, and wait 20 minutes or so before re-dosing so you can accurately gauge where you are at. Combining benzos + opiates is one of my favorite combos, but it is very easy to go too far and get yourself into some problems.

Be safe, and enjoy !
 
Just wanted to agree with you on something:

If I run out of say Xanax, I have Flurazepam and finally Zopiclone collecting dust just incase.

Or if I run out of Oxycontin, I have Percocet and finally Tylenol 4 to back that up.

Anyways, to answer your question, refer to Phatass' post.
 
What Brokedown Palace said I totally agree....combining benzos and opiates can be fun but be careful to keep an eye on your dose because of the compounded depression of your CNS and the lowered heartrate. NEVER EVER bring alcohol into the picture as this is likely to suppress breathing even further when already taking a high dose of benzos and opiates.

that being said, im lucky as fck to be alive because I OD'ed once on benzos and sleeping pills (how ironic, having an NDE with prescription drugs and not illegal narcotics). It was a good thing that i was not under the influence of alcohol, if I was, most likely it would have been fatal.

I was sent (wrongfully, damn doctors) to the psych ward for 3 weeks and placed under observation. According to the report the first two days there i was totally comatose from the high dosage of pills that i swallowed. Comatose, yet those freakin' doctors jsut left me there and see whether I would be able to wake up (monitoring they call it, pffftttt).
 
Why would you smoke oxy? Such a waist.. The longer you are on Klonopin the more they reduce your anxiety and they make you tired less...
 
lightitup said:
I am prescribed and take about 2mg of clonazepam (sometimes 3mg ;)) a day and, and have been on this regiment for about 2 weeks so I feel like my tolerance is building. took a 2mg dose after a long day. Slept like a freakin' baby for like 5 or 6 hours, woke up and decided to eat another 1.5mg. These didn't do to much for me and I was obviously looking for a little fun. So it's been about...an hour and a half or 2 hours since I took the Kpins. Also, on note with the benzo tolerance, I on occasion will eat 2 or 3mg and drink heavily, like a 40 and hard liquor or a 5th of a handle.

I also have about 35mg of oxy, and just did 5mg smoked. Got a little high but was interested in bumping more, and have never combined these two drugs. My breathing is a little slow (but it always is on oxy).

Mainly my question is, how cautious do I need to be with my doses on these drugs together? Especially with no opiate tolerance.

Just being cautious, sorry if this is the wrong place. :D
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How do you smoke Oxy? Powder heated on tin foil like heroin?

Never tried that.
 
BrokedownPalace said:
When combining opiates and benzos, be very conscious of your doses, and try to keep them low as possible. You need to be extra careful of the compounded depression of your CNS when combining the two.
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Considering he is on a maintanance dose of 2mg kpin, I don't see why he would have a problem adding the OC on top of that - but the be on the safe side start lower than usual.

Stay safe and have fun
 
Thanks for the help everyone, it worked out excellently.

As for the smoking, I had never done it but the kids that I had been with were obsessed with it. They said this was the only kind they could smoke (not sure of the imprint), and would just do foilies. After seeing them get real high I decided to try it.

It got me high, so I don't think it was a complete waste. And it was an 80 so it had the least fillers, but it was still nasty and something I will only do once. The rush was kind of nice, but it is much more worth it to do small bumps as posted above.
 
yo dude i'm not prescriped clonazepam but my mother has a prescription and i have unlimited access to her drugs which she gets in bulk in like the hundreds (b/c she is crazy and i know where she keeps the key to her safe, lol), and i take about 3-4/5 clonazepams a day along with 6-7 8mg codeine pills. that is like my daily drug regimen and usually it keeps me calm and happy and shit, until i smoke a fuckin cigarette and then i just pass out TOTALLY. what's it like for you guys?
 
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vertigo8 said:
Comatose, yet those freakin' doctors jsut left me there and see whether I would be able to wake up (monitoring they call it, pffftttt).
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I'm curious, vertigo, how much do you know about comas? Because if you truly were medically comatose, there is no way to induce consciousness artificially. In the best scenarios, your consciousness will move across a continuum from deep coma to light coma and onward towards full wakefulness as the brain recovers from the drug toxicity and possible edema (swelling); this has to happen organically. They monitored you to provide your body with what it needed to stay alive whilst you were in the coma!

I should know, as the same thing happened to me twice in 2006 with Xanax and Heroin contaminated with Fentanyl. Be grateful for the doctors man :)
Also, what sleeping pills did you OD on with the benzos? I'm kinda curious as to which ones could induce something as serious as a comatose state, kinda scary...

~ vaya
 
rpm said:
Considering he is on a maintenance dose of 2mg kpin, I don't see why he would have a problem adding the OC on top of that - but the be on the safe side start lower than usual.
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I do agree with you man, but in the spirit of harm reduction I figured it should be pointed out, incase others who don't have a tolerance like he does think it would be a good idea to take 3 mgs of clonazapam and then rail an 80.
 
Clonopin doesn't even make me tired, just relaxed. Same with valium. Not the case with xanax thou, that stuff makes me pass out. 30 min after 1-2mg I can't keep my eyes open and that's rare with anything. All benzos can be CNS depressants but some like xanax and temazepam are particularly stronger hypnotics.
 
Vaya: Also, what sleeping pills did you OD on with the benzos? I'm kinda curious as to which ones could induce something as serious as a comatose state, kinda scary...
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Ambien (zolpidem) were the sleeping pills i took. The actual amount of the combined pills i took that caused me to OD were 20 ambiens (total 200mg), 20 clonazepams (10mg) and 10 triazolam
 
I'm not positive cause but I think smoking most pills can cause talcosis of the lungs which is bad times indeed...and yeah it tastes like asshole. Be extra careful when taking methadone and benzos as methadone kinda has its own set of rules for stuff among the opioids.
 
They always say take half of each drug you'd normally take for combos. 20mg insufflated seems pretty common as a first-timer dose (definitely do not go above), without the benzos in consideration so do the math, half both. It's alright to experiment with various ROAs as long as it doesn't involve needles or smoking. After I did that, I've personally found insufflation to be the way to go (I personally don't care if it has APAP in it in the case of percs, even though that may be quite irresponsible). If you wanted to be perfectly safe with insufflation, do a CWE, take an oral syringe, extract the fluid contatining oxy and shoot the syringe up your nostril(s). Much more pleasant than snorting any powder too.

Yes, and don't smoke pills as I and others have said..
 
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