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Phenazepam - New Experience - Phenazepam And Me

Yeah most people only feel the need for milli scale when it comes to psychedelics(which I don't blame :) but benzo's/opiates/any potent drug active in the low milligram range should not be risked with the ol' eyeballs...trust me I know from being a dumbass in my younger days.
 
One more quick funny story about phenaz. I just ran out of the shit and it's doubtful I'll be restocking for a while. Anyway, the other day, I had maybe 5-10mg (eyeballed, stupid, I know, and high dose, so sue me) and everything seemed perfectly fine. I had put the phenaz in pills i estimated to each be around 1-2mg, although im sure there was really a lot more variability. I took maybe 6-8 of the pills, and that's where I get my 5-10mg estimate, but I could be off. Anywho, point is, didn't feel much of anything except a bit of relaxation, went to sleep, woke up with a huge puddle of water next to me and popcorn literally ALL over the room. I went "WTF" and looked around, to see that my phone was sitting in the water. I opened it up and sure enough...white screen...I killed it. I broke my phone thanks to phenazepam. I swear I didn't pee the bed, although all of my friends claim that's what must've happened. I still haven't figured out where the popcorn came from or what the liquid was. Be careful with the compound guys, it's hard to work with. You take a little, feel nothing, little more, nothing, little more, getting relaxed, little more, feeling good...wait, what just happened? Why is it Thursday and why is everything sticky and reeking of cheap malt liquor? Trust me, these things happen.
 
Zardokk said:
I went "WTF" and looked around, to see that my phone was sitting in the water. I opened it up and sure enough...white screen...I killed it. I broke my phone thanks to phenazepam. I swear I didn't pee the bed, although all of my fri
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No, not to be a dick, but you broke your phone thanks to you being careless and stupid when measuring an incredibly potent drug.;)

But seriously, there are all these horror stories about phenazepam where people act like it is this unique benzo with other-worldy powers to make you do incredibly stupid shit. Its just a potent, long acting benzo-but the problem is people are getting it in bulk powder and are taking 10X the amount they meant to take. If you did that with alprazolam powder you would have the same experience.

Anyone even considering messing around with this stuff NEEDS to figure out an ACCURATE way of dosing (by either investing in an extremely accurate mg scale or by making a uniform solution in a proper solvent). There are no exceptions to this. If you fail to do this don't blame the drug. You have no one to blame but yourself.-DG
 
Diazepam powder did the same type of shit to me once. It also led to the deaths, rapes, jailings, etc. of many other Bluelighters.

Do not fuck with benzo powders. Make an accurately measured liquid solution using a scale, and make sure you don't have access to more of the solution while you're already under the influence. Benzos are known to cause compulsive redosing to chase the 'euphoria'... and they're also known for making you forget you're even ON anything, so you want to take more...
 
I cannot understand why you people who use this drug do not get a milligram scale.....a 0.00mg point isn't accurate for doses like 1mg-10mg, never actually. I know for a fact that every single head shop in my area sells scales. It is almost an impossibility that they do not carry a miligram scale as well. They are right next to the 2 point scales and are in the exact price range. I bought from the same shop a 2 point one for about 40$-$50 while I also got a miligram one for 40-50$ as well.

This is the main reason people are saying only negatives (I think) though I've not tried it either. Same pricipal as with MDPV. From the description it sounds like a cross between alprazolam and midazolam. I know that midazolam is about 3 times stronger than xanax and xanax ALWAYS knocked me out much less midazolam.

In terms of euphoria however and stress relieving propreties you guys are saying it works.....right? The only problem then is the proper dosage/weight/scale, correct?

The most euphoric benzo for me was/is Temazepam followed by Nitrazepam. All others give an euphoria in regards to the relief of stress/overstimulation.

Anybody that actually preffers it to other benzos?
 
Thank you for a well written report.

Your Phenazepam binge sound crazy...50mgs a day 8o

I hope your finger is going to be ok. Stay safe.



MrIbis said:
i got a gram of phenazepam some time near 6 weeks ago... i awoke about 3 weeks later, - the gram of phenaz, with a dent in my rear bumper and a smashed tail light. in hospital, overdosing on heroin some how, short $15,000 in cash and kicked out of home.

interesting experience, just wish i knew what happened in the time i was 'gone'
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I know I shouldn't, but I couldn't help to giggle when I read that.
 
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Scales don't really help when you're intoxicated and willing to ingest more while the scale reads *$*%$*%$ cause your vision is so blurred.
 
thelung said:
sounds like a disaster waiting to happen , for me!
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=D I'm thinking the same.
Found a reliable looking vendor and I'm gunna get some in the near future whilst nobody who can harm it's availability is still uninformed of it's presence ;)
Gunna be careful as fuck though from the multiple reports I've read 8o

Good report mate! :)
 
While this isn't exactly in the interests of harm reduction, I have used phenazepam frequently without a scale. I didn't experience any blackouts or negative effects worse than with my use of prescription benzodiazepines. The cheap price made me use it way too much and ive been off it two days now, but taking small dabs with your finger seemed to be an ok dosage method for me. I never really got too fucked up. I dont think this is near alprazolam/clonazepam potency, probably at least 3 mg to equal one of xanax, but what do I know, you shoudl all be careful and use a scale. Phenazepam did make me dos ome stupid shit, including almost ODing on oxy, so be careful with this material, you lose all sense of reason.
 
Just for a different perspective, my girlfriend and I have been using phenazepam in place of my prescribed alprazolam for well over 5 month now and have not blacked out, got in a car accident, gone to jail, or any other crazy shit that I read here. If you're not a dumbass and actually weigh out what you have, and dissolve in ethanol it can be used responsibly.

Problem we have here is a major lack of responsibility it seems....
 
I have a seriously huge benzo tolerance stemming from my past addiction to clonazepam. I take over 40mg on an empty stomach while barely feeling a thing. I feel pretty safe about eyeballing phenazepam.
 
even with volumetric measurments where you know the exact dosage the stuff goes from barely being noticeable to severe blackout lasting several days within like 1mg. by far the worst decision i made in a long long time. i would have been better off just shooting heroin for the weekend or something.
 
Sorta forgot about this TR.... figured I'd answer a few questions in case somebody stumbles upon it.

muie said:
I cannot understand why you people who use this drug do not get a milligram scale.....a 0.00mg point isn't accurate for doses like 1mg-10mg, never actually. I know for a fact that every single head shop in my area sells scales. It is almost an impossibility that they do not carry a miligram scale as well. They are right next to the 2 point scales and are in the exact price range. I bought from the same shop a 2 point one for about 40$-$50 while I also got a miligram one for 40-50$ as well.

This is the main reason people are saying only negatives (I think) though I've not tried it either. Same pricipal as with MDPV. From the description it sounds like a cross between alprazolam and midazolam. I know that midazolam is about 3 times stronger than xanax and xanax ALWAYS knocked me out much less midazolam.

In terms of euphoria however and stress relieving propreties you guys are saying it works.....right? The only problem then is the proper dosage/weight/scale, correct?

The most euphoric benzo for me was/is Temazepam followed by Nitrazepam. All others give an euphoria in regards to the relief of stress/overstimulation.

Anybody that actually preffers it to other benzos?
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I checked my local head-shops and their scales were all only accurate down to 0.5g which is obv useless for this. I should have just looked harder, but I was kinda broke at the time and didn't realize how dangerous eye-balling this substance can be.

My fav benzo is xanax because of the short half life.... I can't go through life in a benzo-induced haze anymore. :)

Coolio said:
Scales don't really help when you're intoxicated and willing to ingest more while the scale reads *$*%$*%$ cause your vision is so blurred.
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Very good point. It takes a TON of self control to use phenazepam responsibly (recreationally responsibly obv).

SpecialKid said:
how does this compare to klonopin?
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Similar to klonopin, but seems to keep you "stupid" for a lot longer even with similar half-lives (iirc, please look that up to confirm if you're basing that on dosing). I enjoy clonazepam far more than phenazepam, but subjective opinions on benzos vary widely. Closest I can describe it is as xanax-like cns effects and a diazepam like half-life.

Docus said:
I have a seriously huge benzo tolerance stemming from my past addiction to clonazepam. I take over 40mg on an empty stomach while barely feeling a thing. I feel pretty safe about eyeballing phenazepam.
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As long as you understand your body's tolerance (and you're SURE) I am not surprised at all that 40mg of phenazepam wouldn't seem strong. I'm not a regular benzo user (1-2x a month), so my tolerance is basically zero.

kakti said:
Just for a different perspective, my girlfriend and I have been using phenazepam in place of my prescribed alprazolam for well over 5 month now and have not blacked out, got in a car accident, gone to jail, or any other crazy shit that I read here. If you're not a dumbass and actually weigh out what you have, and dissolve in ethanol it can be used responsibly.

Problem we have here is a major lack of responsibility it seems....
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Phenazepam could be a great replacement for xanax imo, but like all benzos they have lots of negative side effects. Please be careful, and I hope a doctor or other medical professional is involved here.

Methafriendsofmine said:
if i ate 1mg phenaz. how long would i be high
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Prob wouldn't feel much at all, but it depends on lots of stuff (stomach content/ph/enzyme levels, tolerance, etc).

BehindMind said:
Thank you for a well written report.

Your Phenazepam binge sound crazy...50mgs a day 8o

I hope your finger is going to be ok. Stay safe.
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Thanks for the concern.... my finger is actually getting close to 100% better after 6 months of no improvement (actually was an injury to the ulner nerve that runs though the elbow but controls sensation in the pinky, ring finger, and palm).

Take care my friends and be safe.
 
Well, if anything, this thread has pushed me towards getting some scales sorted out.
 
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