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Preparing for my first 'real' psychedelic experience with 2c-c: need some guidance...

Oxymorphone

Oxymorphone

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I'll start off by saying I have always been interested in psychedlics and in my history drug use I've tried some along the way but never felt I have had a true psychedlic experience. Over the past several years I have tried pretty much every drug imagineable outside of the realm of psychedlics. Along my path of drug use I have tried several along the way but I was never really satisfied with the experience and knew I that there was a whole world I was missing. This was due a good amount because of their lack of availabilty to me at the time and then I got into opiates and got addicted to heroin and pretty much forgot about anything else. Well you know how that story goes... now I'm recovering from this horrible addiction and hope to never use it again.

Now that I'm clear headed and trying to piece my life back together I have become interested in trying psychedelics again. I have been doing a good deal of research and I think certain psychedlic experiences could actually be quite benefitial to my life and give me some direction and a different perspective on things, that and I have always wanted to trip balls... :D What are your thoughts about using psychedelics as a recovering addict?

So on to specific things. It seems the 2c series would be a great place to start and I decided on 2c-c due to its low body load and reputation for not being overwhelming or producing nasuea and other unpleasant effects. Would you say that is a good choice?

Now I am currently taking bupropion (wellbutrin) which is a heterocyclic and the antidepressant FAQ said it has no dangerous interactions and nothing else. That's good, but how could it affect the experience and would I need a higher dosage as a result and is there anything else I should know? I may also discontinue the medication, I'm not sure yet...

Would 20mg be an appropiate starting dose of 2c-c? Also, what's the deal with IVing phenethylamines, is there any benefit and how does it compare to oral? I bought a 0.001 scale for accurate dosing which should help here. Thanks for the help and any inisght! :)
 
after taking some 2c-c a few days ago me and a friend remarked that it would be a good "beginner" psychedelic. As for wellbutrin, to the extent of my knowledge it doesn't affect 5ht receptors, so it shouldn't blunt the effects of 2c-c like an SSRI would. 20mg oral would be the dosage I would recommend for someone relatively "psychedelic naive," good call.

I couldn't really tell you much about IVing PEA's. I'm a needle-phobic, so beyond the shortened duration and quick & intense come up I can't really tell you much. Seems like a recall a mention of IV 2c-c in PiHKAL, but i'm not sure.
 
Im only starting to read about IV 2c-xx's but from what I gathered, the duration is really short, depending on the substance it can lessen the body load. I really need to read more on it, but I won't have a chance to do it for a while anyway.

In regards to 2c-c its a very gentle chemical from what I could tell. It was pretty kick back, good feelings, maybe a little bit psychedelic but nothing overwhelming. I think its a perfect entry into the world of PEAs
 
any major dude said:
after taking some 2c-c a few days ago me and a friend remarked that it would be a good "beginner" psychedelic. As for wellbutrin, to the extent of my knowledge it doesn't affect 5ht receptors, so it shouldn't blunt the effects of 2c-c like an SSRI would. 20mg oral would be the dosage I would recommend for someone relatively "psychedelic naive," good call.

I couldn't really tell you much about IVing PEA's. I'm a needle-phobic, so beyond the shortened duration and quick & intense come up I can't really tell you much. Seems like a recall a mention of IV 2c-c in PiHKAL, but i'm not sure.
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Sweet, glad it seems like I made the right choice ordering some 2c-c. It was between that 2c-d and 2c-t-2. 2c-d sounds weak and lacking on its own while having more negative effects so 2c-c is the winner there. 2c-t-2 sounds very interesting and more intense than 2c-c but I'km weary of the body load and reports of lots of nausea in some cases making the trip not worth it. I may give it a shot though if I can't find any 2c-i and or 2c-e which seem to be the big two.

I have decided to stop the wellbutrin for reasons unrelated to my interest in psychedelics so it won't be a fractor. I have read it acts as a weak SRI so it could have dulled the effects or require a higher dose- just something to think about for anyone on bupropion...

As for IVing PEAs I'll have to do some more research. Any idea on how much it shortens the duration? If it lowers the required dosage by the same factor it shortens the duration then that would definitely be something I would want to try. I wonder if IMing would increase the duration comparred to IVing while keeping the dosage low. I know people IM ketamine so I wonder if It is safe to IM a PEA since they are high purity and it is such a small amount- it would seem safer than IMing K... Has anyone here IVed or IMed any 2c's?
 
Any possible interaction/danger taking this while on buprenorphine maintenance?
 
No idea about buprenorphine, never used it myself so I've never really read into it, but in general I suggest a mild oral dose of a classic psychedelic for your first time, probably your first few times.
 
2C-C is not a "good beginner psychedelic". This reputation is given because everyone is underdosing on 2C-C. Taken to 100-150mg oral doses it induces nausea worse than 2C-B and becomes as visually and spiritually intense as psilocybin, 2C-E, or LSD. It's one of the more powerful ones, actually. If you want to take a low dose, I don't think there's anything special about low dose 2C-C when compared to low doses of other psychedelics.
 
Coolio said:
2C-C is not a "good beginner psychedelic". This reputation is given because everyone is underdosing on 2C-C. Taken to 100-150mg oral doses it induces nausea worse than 2C-B and becomes as visually and spiritually intense as psilocybin, 2C-E, or LSD. It's one of the more powerful ones, actually. If you want to take a low dose, I don't think there's anything special about low dose 2C-C when compared to low doses of other psychedelics.
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Well I would definitely not be taking a 150mg oral dose, that's just asking for problems. From all the reports I have read it is advised to keep orql doses under 50mg and trips at 30mg seem to have very positive results.

For any higher dosage plugging reduces the required dose by half and seems to greatly reduce nausea. I'm going to try it outy at the lower and moderate doasge range and judge for myself, I don't want a heavy body load nausea induced experience like 2c-e might produce for my first time.

For higher doses (well higher equivalent to oral doses, much lower actual dose) I am very interested in IMing it. I think that would allow more intense trips without so much nausea or feeling your bowels are on fire and you have to shit for half an hour.
 
Looks like it might come tomorrow which would be sweet. My .001 scale came today and I'm ready for this and really looking forward to it.

This is a basic question but how do 2c's affect your pupils? They dilate them right? If so how long after the main trip i over does that last and in general what is it like after it wears off and can you act normal once you stop feeling the bulk of the effects? How hard would it be for someone to tell you are/were tripping if they didn't know anything about psychedelics, can you pull yourself together on it if you need to for a moment?

Also, I like the idea of conserving the dose by half by plugging and avoiding any potential nausea even if it is a small risk with 2c-c. What would be the harm or disadvantage of not trying oral first and going straight to plugging?
 
2C-C isn't a terrible choice for your purposes, but it isn't ideal if you're primary goal is a "real" psychedelic experience. The 2C-halogens tend to feel a little shallow in terms of the mental/emotional/spiritual psychedelic effects IMO, even thought they can be very visually impressive at high doses. Granted, I am not as experienced with 2C-C as I am with 2C-I or 2C-B, but at the doses I have tried it, it hasn't had the same depth and intensity as a moderate dose of 2C-E for instance.

Plugging is a good route of administration for 2C's. I wouldn't halve your dose though; the reduction in body load and nausea will allow you to handle a higher effective dose, which you should take advantage of if your goal is a powerful experience.
 
Saucy said:
2C-C isn't a terrible choice for your purposes, but it isn't ideal if you're primary goal is a "real" psychedelic experience. The 2C-halogens tend to feel a little shallow in terms of the mental/emotional/spiritual psychedelic effects IMO, even thought they can be very visually impressive at high doses. Granted, I am not as experienced with 2C-C as I am with 2C-I or 2C-B, but at the doses I have tried it, it hasn't had the same depth and intensity as a moderate dose of 2C-E for instance.
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Like I said... as you increase the dose, 2C-C becomes on par with 2C-E for "real" psychedelia. 2C-I and 2C-B are the 'shallow' ones.
 
Coolio said:
Like I said... as you increase the dose, 2C-C becomes on par with 2C-E for "real" psychedelia. 2C-I and 2C-B are the 'shallow' ones.
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coolio, you do a lot of drugs. I wouldn't everyone mind to your chemcial level.

If you think 2c-b is shallow, that's just you being shallow, not the 2cb lol. The mass amount of experiences that differ from yours pretty much deter it from being fact. You should try to be less absolute in your advice lol. Some people don't get much from 2c-e at all.

You increase any amount of chemical, it's going to be stronger. If you increase it to the point that each your side effects massively increase outside the level of usual discomfort, you're taking too much. Drink too much and for the wrong reason, you can have fun, but it's not good for you in any way. Even to your person. 2c-c is just different.

Don't come in here and shoot this guys experience down. He's already got the stuff and wants to do it. That's like telling someone that their weed sucks but you have the same kind at home and YOU have to smoke a massive blunt to get as high as a bong rip would to someone else.

You have a predisposed idea about psychedelics and what you like. Promoting massive doses when the chemical is just purely different than the other psychs and leaves much more up to the mind you already have it not reducing harm, or even good advice.
 
All right today is the day! I think I am going to skip oral and start with 15mg plugged.

I remember the plugging thread said you needed a 10ml syringe and have to stick the whole thing up there, that's like getting fucked by a Thai ladybot, is 1ml not enough water? What about 3ml? I have these 2" plasatic cannula syringe tips could o just stick that part in or do I really need to jam a whole barrel up there?
 
Honestly, if you want a "real" "true" psychedelic experience, get a hold of some LSD. 2Cs are just visually/body feelings/mindfuck imitations.
 
if you have a serious scale don't use more water as needed to dissolve the compound.
don't expect too much...put in a good playlist, lay down, dim the lights and close your eyes. you can get the most from (the weaker/low dose) 2cs that way ime.


btw: enjoy yourself! learn as much as u can! <3
 
johannes kreisler said:
if you have a serious scale don't use more water as needed to dissolve the compound.
don't expect too much...put in a good playlist, lay down, dim the lights and close your eyes. you can get the most from (the weaker/low dose) 2cs that way ime.


btw: enjoy yourself! learn as much as u can! <3
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I just plugged 15mg 5 min ago and am on my side typing this. I used 6ml and a big 10ml syringe which was.... interesting. next time ill use less and a 1ml or 3ml. I want and can handle a stronger trip. Should I do more now so it is a better experience?
 
before u didn't experience a "stronger trip" u can't say u can handle it.. ;)

I don't know 2c-c personally but 15mg seems like a good starting dose. let it go at that.
the comeup may be quite long and subtle. so don't get disappointed too early.

ah: I love walks on 2cs. don't know where u live but if it's day, sunny and you're close to nature go outside and walk and breath and feel yourself. :)
 
johannes kreisler said:
before u didn't experience a "stronger trip" u can't say u can handle it.. ;)

I don't know 2c-c personally but 15mg seems like a good starting dose. let it go at that.
the comeup may be quite long and subtle. so don't get disappointed too early.

ah: I love walks on 2cs. don't know where u live but if it's day, sunny and you're close to nature go outside and walk and breath and feel yourself. :)
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Oops, I just plugged another 5mg, this should be fun.... Yeah I can go for a walk in the park. It has been 20min since first dose, feel a little different but nothing significant yet. :D
 
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