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First acid trip, turned out to be DOB, long lasting negative effects.

its soooo hard to put stuff into words, but in short im saying lighten up, open up, smile.. its okay..
 
PinkPanther2 said:
thats fair, but your also assuming i havent been through the exact same thing in my life, or at least something similar. just because i don't pity him doesn't mean i don't empathize. i think that my guess on what's gonna help, based on personal experience, is probably just as good as anyone elses.. and i think that cutting loose, smoking pot, and trying to just have fun is the healthiest thing to do.
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everyone's body reacts differently to drugs.
 
Sykoknot said:
PinkPanther: E is the same as weed, it can work for some but can lead to making it worse. OP has already stated he would lile to stay clean, please respect that.
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im trying to help here. someone that's ocd might want to get their hands really really clean, but that doesn't mean its healthy.. and i see some connections to that here.. some of the stuff he's experiencing is probably pretty legit, other aspects probably aren't that bad but he's scared cause its new and different.. what do you think dougdoug?
 
PinkPanther2 said:
im trying to help here. someone that's ocd might want to get their hands really really clean, but that doesn't mean its healthy.. and i see some connections to that here.. some of the stuff he's experiencing is probably pretty legit, other aspects probably aren't that bad but he's scared cause its new and different.. what do you think dougdoug?
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yeah, it hasn't let up for a day in over 2 months. because of that it feels permanent, i'm scared as hell. i could have some ocd, but i can deal with that. it's the physical discomfort that's really bothering me.
 
i think that having these changes happen accompanied with the stuffy head feeling could be freaky, but your brains not dying or anything.. it'll work itself out.. you might also have to do a little reconsidering of what you consider "normal".. what's really getting in the way of you enjoying yourself here, what's just different than what you're used to? ya know? its gonna be alright man..
 
thanks man, i just need to hear that people went through this and came okay, i plan to make many more albums in my lifetime, you know?
 
i was pretty freaked out when i first had lasting effects from psychs.. i thought, oh shit.. i also thought it looked pretty trashy.. stuff wasn't as still as before.. turns out the mind is constantly scanning, creating what we see, and making mistakes while doing it.. i cant say for you, but for me the altered perception seems to be more of an awareness of the process of creating the visual field rather than the damage of it. no one, and i mean no one, sees everything right all the time. also, we all have anxieties that keep us up at night.. i just don't want you to throw in the towel.. oh well.. and again, smoke some fucking pot dude.. not just a little, smoke until you chill out, maybe even relax a little.
 
To that one guy who said to smoke pot... no dude... if he's already this hardcore anxious and is suffering panic attacks, that will only exacerbate it. Trust me, I've been there.

Depersonalization and Derealization are two of the most fucked things to experience ever. You'd assume it wouldn't be that bad if you're used to tripping, but it is, because you haven't done anything to warrant the crazy paranoia or spaced out imagery... it's pretty shocking.

Basically, you've just gotta realize it's all up there in your head and work it out... exercise, read, eat healthy, get out and do social things... if you let the anxiety take you down, it's just going to get worse. Pills as a last resort, Benzo addictions are terrible things.

A couple of counselling sessions of CBT helped me a bit, but not really... most of the shit they told me was what I already knew... but having proof that you're not doomed and going bat-shit crazy is a nice feeling.

Hope shit works out for you man.
 
PinkPanther2 said:
i was pretty freaked out when i first had lasting effects from psychs.. i thought, oh shit.. i also thought it looked pretty trashy.. stuff wasn't as still as before.. turns out the mind is constantly scanning, creating what we see, and making mistakes while doing it.. i cant say for you, but for me the altered perception seems to be more of an awareness of the process of creating the visual field rather than the damage of it. no one, and i mean no one, sees everything right all the time. also, we all have anxieties that keep us up at night.. i just don't want you to throw in the towel.. oh well.. and again, smoke some fucking pot dude.. not just a little, smoke until you chill out, maybe even relax a little.
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i somewhat agree
 
DrugOmen said:
i somewhat agree
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thank you! im not being mean, and im not being stupid.. im speaking from experience here.. regardless, dougdoug, i think the WORST thing you could possibly do is start to see yourself as somehow "damaged"..
 
for the record i love pot, and i want to do it again but when the crazy shit wears off/gets worked out in me.
 
dougdoug said:
for the record i love pot, and i want to do it again but when the crazy shit wears off/gets worked out in me.
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dude, just live your life man. not smoking pot cause you had a bad DOB trip is like not drinking coffee at brunch on sunday cause you drank too much friday night.. see what i mean? honestly, you might actually start to like the visual stuff.. the stuffy head feeling, that will go away.. enzymes, chemicals, fancy hoopajup.. the brain and body will work itself out.
 
dougdoug said:
for the record i love pot, and i want to do it again but when the crazy shit wears off/gets worked out in me.
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well also, thank you for saying that, because my response was off the cuff but you know what, it felt right. i could still be wrong but as far as medicine to calm and heal the body in a gentle fun way while at the same time relaxing the mind and easing tension in the soul, pot is great! also, not just once, because that will certainly cause a spike in anxiety.. you gotta smoke regulary till you reach that nice chill pot platue, where smoking doesn't seem real instense, just kind of gives you a small lift.. then maybe stop smoking again after a few weeks and see how you feel when you get you're "sober" levels of energy back. hey, also, do you have access to a sauna near you're house? the sauna's great for getting everything flowing and feeling refreshed.. like a rec center or something.. ya know, a good sauna and swim could do wonders for you! :)
 
dougdoug said:
i just don't want to throw any other chemicals in the mix
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alright, fair enough. but chemicals on the whole aren't the enemy. and grouping DOB, which i accidentally did myself years back and hated it, with anything that changes mood or brain chemistry is just not fair! you know, you seem pretty level headed from what i can tell..
 
yeah i get it man. that sauna idea sounds really good. i'd like to do that and ride my bike and see how that makes me. i recenly stopped working out because of the anxiety and how sweating makes me feel like i'm tripping when i wipe it from my forehead. it's weird.
 
PinkPanther, i think you've been taking my words the wrong way. I am not discrediting your experience, I have even had success from medicating with weed. Its effects just vary to much to be given as concrete advice.

DougDoug, I'm glad you're sticking to your decision to stay sober for the time being.
If you DO decide to smoke, start off with a very low dose. If it makes you feel better, great. If it doesnt, drop it.
 
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