Major dude, it's not overestimating when it's fact. There are some things you cannot change. Like how humans are biologically structured and how people's realities are formed off a controlled society.
Citation please. I read the whole discussion, and you make a lot of claims of fact that are utterly unsupported. While i agree with you that socialization plays an extremely important role in the way people perceive things, and that socialization varies from culture to culture, the way you relate that to 2c-c has no empirical basis.
I said "intense" as to try to relate it to what D9THC said on the previous page. He was the one looking for "intensity". The overall "trip" of the drug is just different. And leaves much more to your OWN drive of intelligence, awareness, and creativity than other "pushier" psychs. Less push for people who aren't normally as "open" leaves much more room to hide in your comfort zone and just chill and not have as much fun, especially if your a person who uses psychs to create your experiences instead of creating experiences with psychs. It's all coming from you. And since this drug isn't making you go along as much as the others, combined with your expections perhaps, it's pretty obvious why some people think that way and others don't, even to the uneducated reader. It just leaves a LOT more up to you. Which is amazing IMO and many others. Resisting body loads on those psychs is much more uncomfortable and often times thus forces the user to extend..
I agree wholeheartedly with the underlined sections, however the bold section is incorrect. Some of its coming from a drug, otherwise drugs would be useless. Furthermore, if you choose to use meditative or spiritual practices to drive a 2c-c experience, then the intensity is at least partially, if not wholly, coming from that, and not the pharmacological action of the drug. I don't think that's bad by any means, and quite interesting to boot, but that is obviously different than an experience with a drug & not those practices.
Any major dude, read above. Don't play into the ignorance. I'm not talking about experience. We're humans. We're all connected. Just because you don't understand things doesn't mean you have to throw out or believe a generic call such as that, and actually think about it. Read and think dude. Seriously lol. Not trying to sound knowitally. You just don't know so you pull that out. Don't bother dude it just hinders your own enlightenment... We're evolving into a new species.
This paragraph doesn't make much sense. I did read above. I'm not playing into ignorance. No one said we weren't humans, and in some senses, yes we are all connected, but that really has no bearing on this conversation. I read constantly. And if you really weren't trying to sound "knowitally," epic fail. This is one of the most condescending posts I've read on BL outside of some of the ethnobotany threads
. Again, we may be evolving into a new species, but evolutionary time is so long as to have no bearing on this conversation.
You really should have avoided weighing in on this. Your point was already brought up and stamped down. Since you think of yourself as "one major dude" and you're from the Dirty South capital U.S.A. Those single things alone make you a candidate for someone who would need more or need practice to appreciate this tool.
Are you referring to yourself or 2c-c... just kidding, but sorry I had to... I don't think you meant it to, but those couple sentences came of quite prickish. Also, any major dude is the name of a steely dan song I like, and I'm originally from the east coast, I live and go to school in the south right now b/c its one of the most inexpensive places to live. And the point wasn't stamped down, I think D9THC just felt like he was talking to a wall because you won't really listen to anyone elses opinion. You just glance over it and restate your opinion, in effect waiting for your turn to talk. My basis for thinking that is that in this long & rambling post you don't even address what I said at all, even after quoting my message. Additionally, your use of the word single to refer to more than one thing, in addition to various other structural & grammatical issues make some of your thoughts all but incomprehensible (they may well be anyway) and tend to make me want to take you less seriously (yes, its possible).
Which you actually did. The positive push that time was just you. The fact that you needed to basically still be in the afterglow from a previous dose and had to take a pretty high dose to finally appreciate it more indicate that you really should be looking as to whyyy you should have to do that. You had the ability to enjoy your experiences just as much the first time, you just hold yourself back in many ways, which manifests physically and come's from the physical you. This time, you took a lot and let your mind go more. So you're resisting the blasts in your previous experiences. Not really the right way to use psychs. Sounds like you have some underlying issues that you're avoiding..
Maybe the positive push was me, maybe it was the drug, there isn't any way to know, so don't pretend to. I never said I didn't appreciate the lower doses, just that they weren't specifically what I was looking for at the time... I wasn't resisting the blasts in my previous experiences, I just personally find this drug to be lighter on the mind than others. That isn't a bad thing, all drugs are different, and that is one of this ones differences. Several of my friends have referred to it as a "psychedelic light," which I agree with personally, but other people may not experience it this way. I wouldn't say that makes them wrong.
And again, wow, that last part really comes off as condescending. I don't think you're ideas are all bad, but the way you present them with a smug sense of superiority is borderline disgusting. This is the type of shit that makes me want to go all Eric Cartman on you hippies... done
