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Mephedrone Megathread VIII: Hnnnng!

After polishing off 3g's in 21 hours between 11pm last night and 8pm today. I found myself out of breath a bit later and had a tension headache focused on my temples, my head did feel different. Was worried it would explode or something. :/ Hands and feet were also very cold still.

Is likely because I scoffed 3g's and didnt keep hydrated properly.

Have had some lorazepam to try and take the edginess away and wrapped up warm. Headache is still persisting though not as bad as it was. Took a small amount of bupe just now to try and help with the headache. My hands and feet have warmed up too :)

I guess I was inviting bad side effects with the crazy amounts but hoped that I wouldn't get any.
 
He's going to die from some weird cancer in no time, it's uncharted territory.

Mugabe, maybe it's time to grow up?
 
He's going to die from some weird cancer in no time, it's uncharted territory.

Mugabe, maybe it's time to grow up?

eeeek. So meph gives you cancer then? You should have said you had been doing research, we would all love to to know the results of the tests. 8)

seriously though, mugabe: i think because you were so vocal about your addiction on this forum, you are going to get a lot of people telling you that you're silly for touching meph again. Although i don't know you, I am going to be one of those people. You can tell me to piss off, but is it really a good idea?
 
My main reason for my addiction was mainly the amount that was available. I've done meph a few times since quitting and only ordered what I planned on doing and it has been fine everytime. Yesterday I did go a bit overboard with the dosing, 150mg/hour is quite extreme but I have not got any meph today, and don't plan on having any more anytime soon.
 
THIS JUST IN VIA TWITTER: Prof Nutt article on Meph

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/mar/01/drugs-mephedrone-class-d

A couple of weeks ago, seven students from Lancaster University were arrested for possession of a drug, even though the policeman leading the arrest team made it clear that the drug was not illegal. This was not the first time the police had exhibited such behaviour in relation to this drug, so what is leading to this apparently irrational police behaviour? The drug in question is mephedrone [not to be confused with the opioid substitute treatment methadone], a synthetic stimulant drug that is relatively new on the UK drug scene although it has been popular in Israel for a number of years.

Mephedrone is one of a number of so-called "legal highs" – these are drugs that users find pleasurable but which are not yet illegal, and indeed may never be. Mephedrone goes under various trade names such as "meow meow", "plant food" and "bubbles", terms derived from its chemical structure, commercial uses and subjective effects respectively. It is readily available from "head shops" and is popular with university students and other groups of clubbers. Its pharmacology is hardly studied but it is chemically related to the amphetamines. Users describe effects that suggest its actions are between those of amphetamine (speed) and MDMA (ecstasy); it activates, energises and makes them feel good but is relatively short-lasting.

There are several reasons for its current popularity. Mephedrone is sold as the pure substance, so users know what they are getting. This contrasts with current street supplies of ecstasy and speed, which are often very low quality after being cut with inactive agents and may even contain some other, more dangerous, drugs such as methylamphetamine. Another reason for its popularity is that it is legal, so can be purchased without having to make contact with drug dealers who may pressure buyers towards other drugs, and currently there is no risk of a criminal record from being caught with it. In contrast, being caught in possession of MDMA and other class A drugs means one risks up to seven years in prison, and for amphetamines [class B], five years. Users see benefits in avoiding the limitations to their careers that a prosecution for drug possession would bring. Prior to the rise of mephedrone, another stimulant known as BZP was popular, but the government has recently made this a class C drug, which may have displaced users to mephedrone.

Is mephedrone harmful? Because its use is so recent there is relatively little evidence on this point, but from its pharmacology we could not make the assumption that it would be completely safe, especially at high doses. Users report effects such as a faster heart rate as one would expect from a stimulant. In the UK, there have been scare stories of mephedrone deaths, but so far none has been proven, though mephedrone was involved in the death of a Swedish teenager in 2008. The Israel experience was that it could lead to repetitive use and stereotyped behaviours in some users consistent with the likely release of the neurotransmitter dopamine in the brain.

The European Monitoring Centre on Drugs and Drug Abuse (EMCDDA) is currently gathering Europe-wide evidence of use and harms to decide if mephedrone should be made illegal by the EU. The government would be advised to wait until this report is published, rather than rushing now to make changes to the classification system.

Last year, the Advisory Council on the Misuse of Drugs (ACMD) suggested that new drugs of uncertain harm might be put into a holding class – such as the "class D" approach adopted by New Zealand several years ago to deal with BZP with some success. Drugs in class D are allowed to be sold in limited quantities to adults, with appropriate warnings of health risks and advice on safe use. Manufacturers are licensed, provided they comply with quality control of manufacture and report sales on a regular basis. This allows an accurate knowledge of the use of the drug against which harms such as hospital presentations can be compared so that a good estimate of harm/use ratio can be obtained; an informed decision can then be made whether to make the drug illegal or not. Mephedrone would seem an ideal candidate for instigating such a holding class in the UK.
 
I had a look at the local paper today when I arrived home (how depressing that was) and they always seem to be running articles on 'bubbles' aka meph. They decided to ask 8 shoppers in Dundee city centre their views on meph. They couldn't have picked a worse bunch. Two blokes in their 70s who said it should definitely be banned because you can't have people going to work on the stuff and that it's dangerous but I bet the only thing they know of 'bubbles' is what they read in the paper. The other bunch were much younger and clearly not drug users or had any clue either, they all said it needs to be banned for consumption but kept legal for those who use it for it's proper purpose of feeding plants.

They should have interviewed some jakies, junkies and neds, would have made for a more interesting read.
 
This paper seems to have some sort of vendetta against it, I don't read this paper very often as I've not lived in Dundee for years but whenever I'm back they are demonising it and they claim it was them who brought it to the attention of the Tayside Police. What do they want Tayside Poilice to do, it's legal and there's fuck all they can do.
 
^ There was a woman in Dundee died from taking mephedrone apparently. That was quite recently so that would probably explain the bad press it's getting there. I posted that article about it being banned in clubs and pubs in Aberdeen now. Think it's a few pages back in this thread.
 
I posted that article about it being banned in clubs and pubs in Aberdeen now

What do you mean by they've banned it though?

I'd imagine every pub or club in any town would throw you out for whipping a baggy of a white substance out of your pocket, whether it's legal or not!
 
This stuff has totally destroyed my brain. I have been in a constant panic attack since thursday. Just this constant overwhelming sense of fear.I have tried everything i can think of to calm down, long walks, relaxation tapes, controlled breathing etc but i just cant calm down. I know i am not in any immediate danger but it really feels like i have lost my mind and am on the verge of psychosis, i am so fucking scared.
 
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