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Benzo (Temazepam) Question

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Like I said in my other thread, I also found a full bottle of temazepam (in 15mg Capsules) that belonged to my Uncle's friend who died about six months ago.

So far I've taken about 25 pills, and took 5 over the course of last night. I'm prescribed Klonopin right now, and I'd taken 3mg of it early in the day around when I woke up (I don't really have a tolerance to benzos, but I save up my prescription so I can get a bit of a high when I want to since the panic attacks I got them for have been happening a lot less recently).

I was wondering what the recreational value of temazepam is and what's the best way to take it. Last night I railed 3 or 4 of the pills over the course of a few hours, and they got me feeling nice and relaxed with a little bit of euphoria that came and went as the night went on. I also broke open two of the capsules and held the powder under my tongue, which didn't seem to boost the effects at all.

Is railing them the best way to get the effects? Should I be doing more than one every hour or so to maximize the high, and what's the best dosage to be taking? Also, since I do use my klonopin for panic attacks, if I end up running out of those before the month is over (sometimes I do), how effective is Temazepam at dealing with them?

Thanks.
-Recordplayer
 
There is no need to insufflate temazepam because it is not water soluble. Dose orally. It will be effective treating panic attacks if you happen to go through your clonazepam faster than expected. Try to not mix the two, especially in higher doses, as temazepam is a strong benzo and can cause overdose.
 
So sublingual would probably be the best way to go?

What's a good dose? The pills are 15mg each, and 2 got me pretty relaxed and buzzed last night, but that was also with 3mg of klonopin.
 
You can sublingual them for a quicker onset.

~30mg is a good dose for treating panic, or up to 60 for recreational doses. You do not have a high tolerance, so again, be careful.
 
I only know of 10 mg Temazepam gelcaps, which were banned in Sweden for abuse reasons, but personally it is one of the best hypnotic Benzos out there and I feel good on 30 mg while having a reasonable Diazepam habit (50 mg/day) so watch out because I have blacked out more than once on those.

You might want to check www.benzos.org.uk for information and harm reduction. It has all the answers you need. :)

-- Peace o/
 
I'm pretty careful with benzos after my first experience with them.

Basically, my mom abused me when I was growing up, and one day I ended up getting a script for klonopin which I was told to take "whenever I felt like I was going into an anxious situation or about to have a panic attack." What ended up happening was I ate 20mg of it (2/3 of my month's prescription), confronted my mom about the abuse, and got kicked out of the house. So I kind of learned from that. Now I just save them for when I actually do have an attack or when I just want to get high for a day.


Also, how much temazepam or klonopin is good to take to get to sleep on a meth comedown? Would I just be taking the normal prescribed dose or the "normal" recreational dose?
 
I would take the prescribed dose speaking as a Ritalin (Methylphenidate) user myself, it's comparing cheap cigars vs. Havanas though but a stimulant comedown still sucks when trying to sleep etc. so take around 10-20 mg Temazepam or 2-3 mg Clonazepam (I love those minty ones from Roche, keep them under your tongue and it works fastest for attacks IMHO). Try keeping it at one Benzodiazepine is my advice though, the withdrawals are hell, believe me I've been there. :)

-- Peace o/
 
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hydroazuanacaine said:
dont say that. yes he should swallow or sublingual his benzos, but not because they are practically water insoluble. you say that, people think you know instead of repeat, they repeat=ignorance.
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Temezapam is practically water insoluble along with most other benzos, which is a pretty good reason for not snorting them. Any effect from snorting them is down to swallowing the drip and placebo.
 
Sublingual for sure. I usually just crack it with my teeth (like a bite) and swallow it or suck on it. Whatever I am in the mood for ;)

For panic attacks I take 30mg, and that too works for sleeping at night. I'd say try 45-60 for a bit more than a medicinal dose. I do have a tolerance to benzos (a mild tolerance), so keep that in mind.
 
Rexeh said:
I only know of 10 mg Temazepam gelcaps, which were banned in Sweden for abuse reasons, but personally it is one of the best hypnotic Benzos out there and I feel good on 30 mg while having a reasonable Diazepam habit (50 mg/day) so watch out because I have blacked out more than once on those.

You might want to check www.benzos.org.uk for information and harm reduction. It has all the answers you need. :)

-- Peace o/
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benzo.org.uk is the best website for information on benzodiazepines. If you read it, you'll see that 20mg of Temazepam is equivalent to 10mg Diazepam and 0.5mg of Clonazepam. Taking higher doses of Clonazepam would be more dangerous than Temazepam when combining the two.

In America Temazepam is available in 7.5mg, 15mg and 30mg dosage forms. In my opinion I find that taking it orally works just as well as subligual. Don't snort benzodiazepines, its not really effective.

Temazepam is the only benzodiazepine that produces a euphoric effect on me. Generally speaking, in the U.S. 30mg is the most prescribed medicinal dose unless your old or tapering. My personal comfort dose is 90mg. That gets me nice and fuzzy.

Clonazepam would rather be my benzo of choice for panic attacks but if you are low, Temazepam can certainly help take the edge off. All benzodiazepines are non-selective so, even though Temazepam is a more useful sleeping aid, it still carries the anti-anxiety effects that other benzos do.
 
Shambles said:
Temezapam is practically water insoluble along with most other benzos, which is a pretty good reason for not snorting them.
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i did not say they were not practically insoluble in water. though re-reading my sentence i can see how that might not have been clear. let me re-phrase:most benzos are practically insoluble in water, but that is not why they should not be snorted (and i do agree they should not).

Any effect from snorting them is down to swallowing the drip and placebo
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on many an occasion i have already posted the abstracts of multiple medical journals looking into the intranasal bioavailibility of different benzodiazepines in humans. water solubility is not all that is involved in a chemical passing through a membrane. lipid solubility or something like that is huge. I don't know much more, I am not a PhD/MD doing research in the field, but i do know you are wrong. believe what you want. I already gave up. bluelight is full of myths. they cannot or will not be debunked.
 
^whatever, last time. you seem nice. it isnt your fault that doing this wont help debunk anything. you will be one of the few to even read it.

an abstract from a peer reviewed med journal:
Bioavailability and pharmacokinetics of lorazepam after intranasal, intravenous, and intramuscular administration

DP Wermeling, JL Miller, SM Archer, JM Manaligod, and AC Rudy

The purpose of this study was to evaluate the pharmacokinetic profile of intranasal lorazepam in comparison to currently established administration routes. Eleven healthy volunteers completed this randomized crossover study. On three occasions, each separated by a 1-week washout, subjects received a 2 mg dose of lorazepam via the intranasal, intravenous, or intramuscular route. Blood samples were collected serially from 0 to 36 hours. Noncompartmental methods were used to determine pharmacokinetic parameters. Lorazepam was well absorbed following intranasal administration with a mean (%CV) bioavailability of 77.7(11.1). Intranasal administration resulted in a faster absorption rate than intramuscular administration. Elimination profiles were comparable between all three routes. The concentration-time profile for intranasal delivery demonstrated evidence of a double peak in several subjects, suggesting partial oral absorption. Females were found to have significantly higher AUC values than males for all three delivery routes. Overall, this study demonstrated favorable pharmacokinetics of intranasal lorazepam in relation to standard administration methods. Intranasal delivery could provide an alternative, noninvasive delivery route for lorazepam.
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ok? plenty of med journal articles just like this one out there. not just about lorazepam. no more, bluelight.

obviously the lorazepam used in this study was not held in pill or powder form. they dissolve it in a nasal spray. i've already had a discussion about that spray in ADD. it is just saline and a chemical that allows the benzo to dissolve in the saline. that chemical--from what i took from the ADD discussion--is not responsible for the benzo being able to pass through the membrane.

"Toto, I've a feeling we're not in BDD any more."
 
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