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Official Heroin Discussion II
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Philly vs. camden dope scene
Hey i always copped in camden and now that it is so hot im wondering if anyone can tell me what is up with philly............ive heard its been hot there too and i wouldnt wanna take the chance if it is..........not sourcing just trying to stay safe with this dope gamejake your always worried about the police but you keep goin to the same spot you know that got raided, i dont get it?...and now your gonna travel outta state but only if its not hot like NJ...lol come on bro your not talkin about weed where half the people including cops could carless..heroin is looked down upon so if your gonna use or deal with it and go to the hood to cop it then expect it to be "hot"...theres no guarenteed safe way, just use your head and use common sense and you should be fine...
i gotta ask dont you have a phone connect that will deliver to you outside the block? even if its just one of the dudes from the corner, and if not whats the point of even having the number?....just say the blocks been hot and ask if they can meet you at the gas station or 7-11 down the street or better yet let them pick the spot so they feel safer delivering it, i doubt they would tel you no
to me from reading your posts and threads..it just sounds like you go to a stupid spot where they do things so obvious and out in the open...why not find a new spot or dudes who run their shit a little more lowkey and professional...instead of the little kids or goons who are 10deep on a corner slanging to everybody and their momma?ognobognob
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makes a lot of sense to me!Jonny8369er
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Ditto. If you are in the dope game you should expect to have to deal with police at some point. I like how Chinky pointed out, something that isn't obvious to everyone even though you think it would be, that heroin and weed are looked upon by society very differently. I have been caught by police multiple times while in possession of marijuana. Luckily to this day I haven't ever had a drug charge against me (I had my car impounded for having a glass weed pipe, no citation was written). Now if I ever get caught with heroin (knock on wood) there is not a doubt in my mind that I would be going to jail. That is why it's a dope game, when you play the game there are rewards and consequences.
The shit I've been reading on here about Camden would def have me going elsewhere for my shit. I'm not sure if I would be willing to transport drugs across state lines though. It's going to be pretty hot anywhere you go where there are people selling heroin. So either get a phone connect who will meet you somewhere safe, quit using, or suck it up and go get some.
Me personally, if I had to go to the hood for my stuff I would quit. But again that's just me.Jonny8369er
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I feel ya Jake. My phone guy doesn't have a drop off in quality, but he def charges more. I figure I'm paying for him taking the risk of copping so I don't have to. Small price to pay if you ask me.
JosephTHeSequel
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Sucks about Jersey. Man, in Baltimore, like, it is wide open. There are so many fucking murders, rapes, and violent crimes happening at all times, that the cops have no time to even fuck with the open air dope scene. I cant even begin to describe how wide open the shit is. Needing a phone connect and shit, lolzzz, not necessary in bmore. My god you could end up with pillz/vials of dope in your lap whether you want em or not. People literally sling right in front of cops, it's ridiculous. Never seen anything like it in my life~my guy is an older dude say late 20s early 30s, and only delivers you know he aint on the block dealin with that shit...he doesnt charge more or less depending on where i meet him, shit i mean he wont even let me go to the hood..sometimes if im in a rush ill be like" ill just come to you " and he will go naw man just park on a side street in this area real quick and ill call you in 5mins when i get outta here and get closer to you...
then again in chicago a 5min drive can and will take you from the hood whre its 90% black, 8%mex, and >1% white to the the gentrified yuppie area where its 50%white 25%mex and 25%black....those arent real stats i was just making a point
like i said jake you should just try and get one of the dudes on the block sellin those stamps you like to meet you somewhere off the block...im sure if you go to the spot often they know you and trust you so suggest it and who knows maybe your dude likes the idea and has enough people who call him on the regular to start his own little deliver off the block business..it doesnt hurt to ask right?
sure he can be on the block all day but when you call he grabs what you need only, jumps in the car and meets you 5min..you know just a couple miles outside of the block in a spot he decides and not the same spot alwasy switch it up...and hes gone for no more then 10mins and can be back on the block...i say pitch the idea to the dudes on the block im sure one will like it..Jonny8369er
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So Hamsterdam from the Wire is really coming true in Bmore? Not to wish anyone would get raped or murdered but cops not being so hot about drugs would be a nice thing.
BoulderBob
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...also, isn't heroin possesion a simple misdemeanor in Baltimore County? I'm pretty sure it's a felony everywhere else in the country, but I seem to remember someone posting this fact about Baltimore a month or two ago. If that is the case, we all need to move to Baltimore, start up some company, and live happily ever after. %)
Jonny8369er said:
Of course it's an utopian pipe-dream, but if there really is a completely run-down area of the city with no residents other than squatters/homeless/etc, implementing a Hamersterdam-esque drug market is a WISE decision, imo. For one, in theory it would displace drug dealing and open-use from residential neighborhoods to the "Hampsterdam" area. Resulting in a better atmosphere for children/elderly, and generally everyone involved. Secondly, it would divert police attention to problems that are a tad bit more serious than drug dealing/possesion/use/etc. Of course violent crimes would be commited in the 'Dam, but everyone involved in the trade in any form should know beforehand that Hampsterdam may be unsafe at times. Nevertheless, the dealers who are interested in making money would police THEIR area just like a police officer would...again, in theory. There would still be dealing in residential 'hoods and police wouldn't always turn a bline eye...but I do think, overall, it's a good idea.
Feel free to add your pro's and con's...I love this discussion...Last edited:Jonny8369er
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Good points Bob. Your from the chi. If a crack head ripped us off on the block, I know for a fact that I would be better off going to the corner boys to get my shit back rather than the police. The gangs do a very good job of policing.
I know it is cliche but it applies here: when you criminalize having a gun, only criminals have guns. This is true with drugs too. Having them illegally is what is creating such a lucrative market for them to be sold in. Think about the lengths that people go to for this shit. People are getting locked up for 10-20 years and that isn't a deterrent. People are gonna do what they want to do regardless of laws or consequences (if they want to do it bad enough). I say let the people who are going to go crazy on this shit go crazy, and let the rest of society do whatever it is that they do.bmore$finest
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Depends on who u know
I just moved from NY myself. I found even tho Baltimore is supposed to have the bomb, I haven't seen anything worth while. But then I guess its who u know, back home I knew some hardcore bangers. But that was then this is now...Jonny8369er
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Thats what they are saying about Bmore, it shouldn't matter who you know. Right?i am a 30yo white male who is slightly overweight and otherwise pretty healthy...basically i dont look like a junkie, but i am. i also drive a nice car (late model 5 series) which makes it seem like copping in one of these east coast markets would be tough for me (heat wise). heres the issue i am having. i am currently living in vegas but am definitely moving, just not sure where to just yet. i work for myself btw and do pretty good (100k or so) so i can basically move where i want.
thing is, more and more i WANT to live near one of these massive markets, at least for a year or so and actually have access to good powder instead of shitty ass tar. reading these forums (and others) though it seems that if i drive into these places day in and out, im gonna get hassled a ton by 5.0. is this accurate? lets say there are 3 scenes in play A) PHI, B) BAL C) Jerz at ANY of these scenes can i roll in and out each day and NOT be a favorite to be pinched? are any of these markets habitable by a middle classish white person(be great to wake up and walk to get coffee AND heroin!)? how hard will it be for me to meet a guy who will do weight deals off the scene via phone? the philly scene in K looks like i COULD live in that area, am i mistaken? what about the bmore scenes?
i read on another phone that NYC still has a solid scene, just that its mostly delivery for guys like me. how the eff do i find a delivery service in that huge ass city?
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also Chicago seems like a possibility, although if one wanted FIRE it appears i would be driving in and out of housing projects.
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alteknj
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If your making mad money like you claim, move to NYC for sure. You would have to do some heavy networking and get into a delivery service, but once your in and done a few deals.. you can buy weight for sure. It's over the phone, they come to you, very safe and GOOD quality. Might be a bit pricey than going to Newark or North Jersey, but what's an extra $10$20 a b if you make 100k/yr. Also North Jersey is a 20 min ride away from Manhattan, so if you ever wanted to try it out you could and the open air there is OPEN AIR, so no problem finding dope there. Thing about that is 1) Quality varies heavily, you would have to shop around and find a good, solid connect with good shit. You might end up with some shitty dope even in Newark sometimes. 2) NJ is hot and has that rep. If you know what you are doing, you should be aight, but still always watch over your shoulder and know who your dealing with. I say go with NYC and the delivery service, the quality can't be beat and they cater to high clientele just like you (making 100k/yr if you really do).
Ktown in Philly is another good place. Cops usually turn a blind eye, but you never know. They occassionally do raids to keep things clean, but it's always popping. Plus it's a big city. Narcotic violations in big cities are better than smaller ones in court, trust me. But why would you wanna live there? It's a piece of shit hood. Unless you lived nearby and took the El or drove. Driving and parking on a busy street and walking around getting what you want and walk back to your car and be out. That's what I do.
I don't know much about Baltimore, although I hear it's nuts there and dope is everywhere, but purity wise, not as good as Philly or NJ/NYC, but again it's everywhere and it's a grimey city.
Chicago.. I heard mixed things. I heard it has good dope, shitty dope, cops are assholes, cops turn a blind eye. I don't know. Ask someone from Chicago if you wanna know more about that city.
If I was in your position and making that much money, I'd move to NYC and make some friends. Plus NJ is a 20-25 min drive away. Once in your in a delivery service and got an apartment, never have to worry about cops again. Feel like trying some Jersey D? Take a drive.- Status
