I've got mild Vasoconstriction from Methylone (not Mephedrone)

[effie]

Not quite. Vasoconstriction is the body constricting the flow of blood by narrowing the blood vessels.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasoconstriction


...and as regards keeping warm, I only say this because I know that it works for me. I am not saying wrap yourself up in 20 layers of clothing, just keep yourself at a nice temperature. As I said, in my experience keeping warm and hydrated minimises vasoconstriction. There may be some physiological reason for this, but I'm not sure what it is...

Vasoconstriction can be a physiological response to cold - to preserve core body temperature your body diverts blood away from the extremities and the skin, where a lot of heat is lost. So if you have drug induced vasoconstriction and you are also cold I imagine it would make the problem worse.. then again I can see that it would not be good to be too hot either, in case you become hyperthermic. Comfortable temperature sounds about right!

 

[MikeHawk]

Vasoconstriction can be a physiological response to cold - to preserve core body temperature your body diverts blood away from the extremities and the skin, where a lot of heat is lost. So if you have drug induced vasoconstriction and you are also cold I imagine it would make the problem worse.. then again I can see that it would not be good to be too hot either, in case you become hyperthermic. Comfortable temperature sounds about right!

That makes sense. Just had my first meal for 48 hours and it helped a lot. I was almost too weak to stand beforehand.

I slept pretty well too. I find it strange how Googling Vasoconstriction and Methylone returns almost no results. There's obviously something unusual about my physiology that caused problems. Unless I deteriorate I'll leave this topic alone now. Thanks for the advice everyone. I think I'm staying away from RCs from now on as I'm pretty sure my vasoconstriction is permanent and anything further will just aggrivate it.

 

[MUSHET]

That makes sense. Just had my first meal for 48 hours and it helped a lot. I was almost too weak to stand beforehand.

I slept pretty well too. I find it strange how Googling Vasoconstriction and Methylone returns almost no results. There's obviously something unusual about my physiology that caused problems. Unless I deteriorate I'll leave this topic alone now. Thanks for the advice everyone. I think I'm staying away from RCs from now on as I'm pretty sure my vasoconstriction is permanent and anything further will just aggrivate it.

Alright mate, same kind of shit happened to me with a 50/50 methylone/mephedrone mix. It was a shiter!

Check out my reports here on it:

http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showpost.php?p=8163568&postcount=587

I was in a mild form of psychosis after days as well, I was typing at my computer thinking I was wearing gloves, when I wasn't. It was horrible.

 

[Solipsis]

I'm doing this way too often and in larger quantities per sitting, residual stimulation and nasty things for heart and bloodvessels are apparent.
In the very beginning, like with other drugs like GHB I only noticed positive effects and no hangover whatsoever. After chronic use it can turn from perfect to uglier and uglier.

One time I went to the emergency room when I took GHB, methylone and 4-AcO-DMT in the same evening. I had taken a small amount of codeine for an ache and became very worried that it would combine badly with GHB. I developed a panic attack and thought I had to consciously breathe to stay alive. In retrospect it was a panic attacked triggered by the comedown of an extended period of GHB use and the residual effects of methylone plus a psychedelic in the mix.
Hyperventilation caused my blood gases to do weird shit though and my blood pH was way off from hyperventilating. That caused some symptoms that felt very real to me. What a mad night.

 

[DankmasterD]

Well, I came pretty close to a hospital visit last night, I am pretty freaked out. I have no Benzos and keep entering a state of psychosis. I never even knew Methylone was renowned for vasoconstriction, I didn't really think about it. I've not slept for about 30 hours and my heart is resting at about 110bpm. This sucks. So bad.

I'm gonna ask a friend for a Xanax, that should hopefully help.

I wish I would have seen this thread last night! My fuckin arms & legs are purple! hahaha! I haven't slept or eaten in 3 days!! I sure as shit had fun though!!

I definitely went overboard. 6 Grams of Methylone by myself in about 30 hours. My last dose was a whole gram plugged & 200MG mixed with water. That was about 9 & 1/2 hours ago. Not even remotely sleepy or hungry.

Needless to say I enjoy the EXTREME stimulant high that comes from abusing the shit out of it! Now... no more Methylone for a while.

For all you guys that wanna know how much to take to get an X type high!! No more than 200MG & don't redose!! When you redose this stuff it changes from an MDMA'ish happy feeling high to sucking on Satan's Meth Pipe in Hell kinda high! I like that... you probably won't. This stuff seems to hit everybody different too so do a small amount first! REMEMBER! Less is more & you don't want purple fucking arms & legs!

 

[kulasatree]

I'm feeling that heart pain you mention strongly this time. Felt it before but it quickly disappeared. This time it is very worrying. I know I'm old for this at 43, so if I get through this then that's my lot.
If only I could get hold of weed on a regular basis I would not bother with other things, including too much alcohol. Made the decision to stick to weed at 39, but without that I go for anything to fill in the gap. Thought I'd learnt my lesson after years in se asia with yaba, crystal meth and ecstacy. Only survived by switching to 4-6 xanax/day with alcohol for 2 years.
Pain is still very strong. 999 ready. Drinking water.
Shit, I should know better. Concerned about heart attacks mentioned above. This was not reported in the UK media during the debate on mephedrone/methylone dangers. Can anyone confirm these deaths, and point to some coverage or comment on web?
Heart throbing badly but feel ok otherwise...

 

[kulasatree]

Thought I'd checked this stuff out on web thoroughly and lack of comment a good sign - indicating low risk and no related deaths, especially after the UK tabloids were shown to incorrectly linked Meph to deaths.
Accurate, easily available information is so important to this lifestyle.

 

[kulasatree]

Heart pain/tension is moderating slightly. Been checking the web and nothing clear cut, which again is reassuring. But I'd say the effect is worth noting, and very likely suggests risk to heart especially among groups with increased risk of heart problems (old fat heavy drinking smokers!). I always draw comfort from the high risk category that doesnt apply to me - i'm not fat - and then overlook the fact that the others do!!!

 

[kulasatree]

Still, from experience it beats climbing mountains. Why do crazy climbers get all the admiration, while ceribral summiteers are condemed??
For gods sake legalise cannabis, it keeps me out of trouble (climbing and unreseached subs)!

 

[MikeHawk]

Oh heh it's this thread I made half a year ago! I seem to be a fairly good case study so I feel confident in telling you that you should be fine. I was better in a few days and have been fine since. I never touched Methylone again though. Nasty shit no matter what anybody says. Personally I believe Mephedrone is safer. I know many people will disagree but people hate on it because of it's fiendish nature. If you dropped 200mg of each 2 weeks apart I am certain Mephedrone would be less harmful.

I hope everybody else is okay.

Kulasatree. Don't worry about the heart pain, I was 18 when I wrote this report (19 now) and I had that. It went away after 2 days and I had an EKG recently showing my heart was fine. I hope that puts your mind/heart at rest.

 

[blobbymahn]

Kulasatree. Don't worry about the heart pain, I was 18 when I wrote this report (19 now) and I had that. It went away after 2 days and I had an EKG recently showing my heart was fine. I hope that puts your mind/heart at rest.

Was your heart pain a massive crushing feeling right in the centre of your ribcage? How long did it last? I had the same after a night on Methylone.

 

[das_feuer]

I got into a methylone kick several years ago. Tingly extremeties and lots of difficulty urinating. Looking back on one experience, I probably should have called 911... I'm glad I'm done with that kind of stuff. The stuff turned me into someone I didn't like. My judgment flew out the window. I ended up finding out from a friend online that this really cute goth girl in my German course had the hots for me....

So, being on methylone at the time, I reasoned that it would be a great idea to send her some home porn videos of me and a bunch of pictures.

Thank goodness that the course had ended and I never had to see her again. Once I started coming down I realized what I had done and I set my Gmail to send her e-mail address immediately to my Trash folder... just in case.

Every time I'd come down from that stuff I would find all sorts of strange porn playing on my computer and lube all over everything, even though I couldn't get hard for the life of me.

I would compulsively redose on the stuff even though redosing only made it worse. I gave it up shortly after the goth girl porn incident.

 

[kulasatree]

I'm sort of hooked on the sex effect

I got into a methylone kick several years ago. Tingly extremeties and lots of difficulty urinating. Looking back on one experience, I probably should have called 911... I'm glad I'm done with that kind of stuff. The stuff turned me into someone I didn't like. My judgment flew out the window. I ended up finding out from a friend online that this really cute goth girl in my German course had the hots for me....

So, being on methylone at the time, I reasoned that it would be a great idea to send her some home porn videos of me and a bunch of pictures.

Thank goodness that the course had ended and I never had to see her again. Once I started coming down I realized what I had done and I set my Gmail to send her e-mail address immediately to my Trash folder... just in case.

Every time I'd come down from that stuff I would find all sorts of strange porn playing on my computer and lube all over everything, even though I couldn't get hard for the life of me.

I would compulsively redose on the stuff even though redosing only made it worse. I gave it up shortly after the goth girl porn incident.

I understand the girl's reaction. I'm adicted to the sexual effect though. I used to work in Bangkok, now in UK - it makes me want to do anything remotely sexual with everyone. It allows me to earn a lot of money selling sex to groups. But I'm bound to have had enough soon. It's used a lot for sex in east asia, especially in China. You should try it with some people you love.

 

[kulasatree]

cont

Scrap that last suggestion - it is a bit dangerous. Some girls would use it to get rid of older guys they didnt like...
Dont redose and focus on the sex. Smoke weed to boost. You might have seen me in some of that wierd porn