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GBL Megathread 4: End of an Era?

I dont think so because this crackhead that would deliver it to your dor said he going to change to it when the ban comes in...
 
(3) In Part 3 (Class C drugs)—

(a) in paragraph 1(a), after “Flurazepam”, insert “Gamma–butyrolactone”;

(b) in paragraph 1(b)—

(i) before “4–Androstene–3,17–dione”, insert—

“5α–Androstane–3,17–diol.

Androst-4-ene-3,17-diol.

1–Androstenediol.

1–Androstenedione”;

(ii) after “4–Androstene–3,17–dione”, insert “5–Androstenedione.”;

(iii) after “Boldenone.”, insert “Boldione.”;

(iv) after “Bolmantalate.”, insert “1,4–Butanediol.”;
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nope, crackhead was wrong
 
Treacle said:
It might not make sense, but I assure you it's the case. A lot of other people on Bluelight report the same. I believe it's because GBL kicks in harder and quicker that the side effects are enhanced. They feel quite different to me.
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GBL passes into the bloodstream a lot quicker than GBL because it's a lot less polar. Combine this with GBL having a plasma half life of about 3 minutes (before being turned into GHB) and for the same dose, GBL produces much higher peak plasma levels than GHB, even though it ends up the same active drug - and higher peak plasma levels means more addictive and shorter acting (like comparing oral vs IV amphetamine - one method of admin is much more likely to produce psychological cravings for the drug)

Weird thing pharmacodynamics
 
fastandbulbous said:
GBL passes into the bloodstream a lot quicker than GBL because it's a lot less polar. Combine this with GBL having a plasma half life of about 3 minutes (before being turned into GHB) and for the same dose, GBL produces much higher peak plasma levels than GHB, even though it ends up the same active drug - and higher peak plasma levels means more addictive and shorter acting (like comparing oral vs IV amphetamine - one method of admin is much more likely to produce psychological cravings for the drug)

Weird thing pharmacodynamics
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Would that also account for the more hellish withdrawals?
 
Oh so do I,have THE addiction again. This is because of 4 weeks of taking certain drugs that can give one addictions, especially multiple addictions but not GBL.And I took Guice on Wednesday night to sleep and found I forgot to use my stopping methods on Thur,Fri,Sat, looking like next Thursday I will be more than desperate then, and now it seems the problems are worse this time. Well actually I broke my flat. People keep ringing me up when I'm asleep, and I am in a non-awake stage and I have fucked so much of parts of my flat that now my phone is off and staying off every time I go to bed....although GBL is known for inducing sleep in unlikely places:|

I have to do a clean up with this hell as it won't go away,there seem to be 1000 newspapers and magazines and cd's and I've broken the on button on my desktop:XThere is one room with rotting milk in, one with cheese that smells awful, and I burst a box of soup ALL over the bathroom.
PS on Thursday I was fully psychotic for at least 2 hours after some text messages woke me up out of an attempted longish sleep.

I'll see if I can get all the shit out the place, I've started crying as its got so bad.Before Thursday so by the next Saturday when I am recovered I will be in a tidy flat. No one can live like this its breaking squat levels.
 
^ I have some left (not much) but I just don't take it anymore. GBL doesn't do sh.. to me anymore. I don't want to throw the remains of my bottle but I just don't think about it. Even benzos I think about them but I don't feel the need to take some.
 
Tangerine Dream said:
I'm glad I have no more GBL!

(Not very helpful comment, sorry)
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Oh and its not making me feel good at all.In fact twice now its made me vomit and I'm scared it will at work or fall asleep. And I've been very careful about those sort of things so much in the past.

The vomiting could be acidic food. or something undercooked. Not at work though,I nearly fell asleep at work on Thursday a few times but just got asked if I was alright and just pretended I was studying a paper or letter thoroughly.

I would get sacked instantly from both my jobs if the truth of any or all of my addictions come out

Actually its scaring me because I never do these things at work or parents or ever tell anyone I'm on it and its easy to keep hidden because I have various methods. I have a feeling it might be to do with everything I took in the 4 weeks without.
 
I feel slightly better, well much better today.I know that I need 2 days to come of it.Once I did it for 1 day a few months ago and coming off it the next day was a piece of piss.Its all about the longitude and the latitude of the addiction.
Someone offered to build me a pc,so all is not lost. The urge to spew seems to have gone a lot, I hope it was the undercooked tagliatii I had earlier.

I have never been this messy its obscene, I think it was the burst soup box that went over 5 jumpers, 1 t-shirt,a pair of trousers and I don't have a washing machine:|Have to take things to my parents until I tidy up and spend some real dough on a new one.
 
OK the magic is gone I have felt shit all week. There is only one other possibility, I was on opiates strong and weak, benzo's and quite often alcohol (though small doses for me) and weed and I have prepared my body for a new line of multi-drug taking.Even took K on top of opium pods,alcohol,heroin and phenazepam a short while ago and felt really happy.

Either all these drugs agree with me or I am lining myself up for death.....6 people I know have taken phenazepam, 1 really liked it, one has now decided its dodgy, one took obscene amounts and went insane the next day, another took too much and wasn't himself for 2 days, one likened it to lorazepam, and one really shouldn't have taken it on top of £40 of heroin and some nitrazzies.

But it has been useful to me apart from when I took 30mg of it,though I just slept and called in sick to work.

I want off the GBL train now, I lost my glasses last night when I was asleep, fuck knows how and I spent 3.5 hours searching for them, luckily I have a spare pair. But I turned the place upside down looking for them and have no idea what I did to lose them as they were right on a pillow beside my bed.

I feel better after having a long soak and eating healthily. SO tonight might hopefully be better and tomorrow...and hope for Thursday and then gone on Friday.back to being a junkie.
 
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