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[MEGA] God v.2

I'd assume God is hostile to me, and thus engage the subject until the contact is a kill.

Then brag about how much I pwn.

more seriously;

I don't believe in God to start with, and if I was capable extinguishing something, I wouldn't call it a God as it would be non omnipotent. If its the God of the Torah/bible/Qu'ran, and I could kill it, I would I disagree with its ethics, and i would end most of the wars in the world in a single hit. making me a cool guy.
 
I recommend reading The fantasy series "His Dark Materials" by Phillip Pullman if you are interested in this idea.

The books are set both in fantasy worlds as well as our own world and the traveling between dimensions which allows for amazing interpretations of science and god that differ, yet are the same in each world/dimension.

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Without trying to spoil too much they deal with the issue in such a way as that it is a positive thing when God dies allowing God to actually be free and liberated from a world that has deemed him irrelevant and unnecessary.
 
punktuality said:
I recommend reading The fantasy series "His Dark Materials" by Phillip Pullman if you are interested in this idea.

The books are set both in fantasy worlds as well as our own world and the traveling between dimensions which allows for amazing interpretations of science and god that differ, yet are the same in each world/dimension.

***SLIGHT SPOILER ALERT***








Without trying to spoil too much they deal with the issue in such a way as that it is a positive thing when God dies allowing God to actually be free and liberated from a world that has deemed him irrelevant and unnecessary.
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That's book sounds amazing. I'm going to look into buying it. Thanks :)
 
Would you dig up an artifact that proved God to be false?

If there were a stone burried somewhere in the dessert, which had written on it "God does (does not) exist", would you dig up the dessert to find the stone?

Modification:
a) Would you do it if you knew you would find the stone before you die?
b) Would you do it if there was a chance that you don't find it?
 
Nope. The writing on the stone might not be true, making the whole task pointless.
 
You know a priori that the writing is valid. My point was to bring out the meaning (or to use a contemporary word: 'function') of God for people behind the curtains of "having faith in god".
 
The knowledge is a priori, in the same way we can deduct that a triangle can't have two angles of 90°. This knowledge is not based on empiricism, scientific theories, or religious texts. The knowledge is a priori and necessarily true. The premisses of this thought experiment is actually not that important. I wanted to question the importance of the existence or non-existence of a God to people.
 
Depends what kind of stone.

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I probably would look for it out of curiosity as that would be half the fun. I already know God exists but finding a nice piece of Mother Nature would be like icing on the cake.

Peace,
Seedless
 
Psyduck said:
You know a priori that the writing is valid. My point was to bring out the meaning (or to use a contemporary word: 'function') of God for people behind the curtains of "having faith in god".
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There is no way I could know a priori that a stone saying "god does (or doesn't) exist" is valid. There is no logic to validate it.

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I know god exists within my soul, so why would I need to look anywhere to find it?
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Knowing and believing are two different things. In philosophy, knowledge must meet three criteria: it must be true, you must believe it is true, and you must be justified in believing it is true. There are a few counter-arguments to that, but I think it's still pretty solid. You cannot know that a god exists - none of us can.
 
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no, i would not.

if i spent my whole life searching for an answer i might not even find, i'd have been wasting it. the knowledge one way or another won't really make a shred of difference in the long run, so i'd rather just live.

but to be pedantic (as this thread seems to be about), of course god doesn't exists, well not in any way we can comprehend. the something is highly unlikely to fall within our means to grasp, describe or label. so the question is still misleading.
 
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this stone would tell you nothing, nor would it convince anyone else of anything, without a unilaterally accepted definition of god. sure, you could have a priori knowledge about whether 'god' exists. but without the expression 'god' singling out some unique entity or concept...
 
i think i am missing something. the stone says "God does (does not) exist"?

that statement in itself makes very little sense to me. even if the stone said either "god exists" or "god does not exist", why would i have any reason to believe what was written there? it could have been carved by anybody and placed there 20 minutes ago...

alasdair
 
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