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Buphedrone (alpha-methylamino-butyrophenone) megathread - spread your knowledge!

I've been experimenting with my 500mg of Buph. I've found doses of 50mg-100mg insufflated to produce the best effects. I find it very similar to Amphetamine, as amphetamine itself doesn't give any profound euphoria or stimulation but still present.

I tried smoking 30-50mg in a crack pipe with pretty good success, melts easily.
 
I've found the best way to use this chem is by snorting a bump every 30 minutes. It can be quite fiendish this way though, went through about 400-500 mg last night. Very reckless of me, however I was fine the entire time. Had some trouble sleeping, though it wasnt to bad, was asleep within two hours of my last dose. Very nice in combination with JWH-018, quite a nice body high.
 
Looks like this one is more of a combo drug then something to take on its own, cannibinoids are reported to be great with it i wonder how it would be in combination with MDAI.
 
Here is my TR from the previous combo which I mentioned being MDAI 100mg , 40 mg Tianeptine and 5 mg Buphedrone. However I staggered the dose of buphedrone so frist ingested MDAI and Tianeptine then half an hour into it ingested Buphedrone. please dont shoot me down over this TR Ive tried to keep it as informative as possible.

everything here was weighted

0.15 starting to feel effects of Mdai not unlike a 180 mg dose
0.30 effects are now at their full intensity same as MDAI on its own
ingested 5 mg Buphedrone
0.50 no noticeable effects made decision to increase buphedrone effect by another 15 mg
1.10 effects starting to become pronounced no eye wobbles , just an increase empathy and a big grin.
1.30 decided to re dose again at 10 MG buphedrone

Effects lasted a total of 4 hours before starting a journey to baseline. Overall the effects were similar to MDMA minus any nasty kickers etc etc . Lots of euphoria , lots of empathy , tactile sensations were increased, the clarity was one thing I have to comment on everything was sharp and clear but not displeasing to the eye, musical appreciation was also heightened.

Another interesting point for this is that there was no pupil dialation and no gurning in fact no dry mouth as with mephedrone and Mdai combos

I think if you were looking for the dirty Ekkie effect you will be disappointed this is a combo that you can get up and dance to or lax out have those deep and meaningful convos.

There was some desire to redose but not a "feinding" effect

Come down was very minimal if any, sleep was some what difficult. Another note to mention is that mental tiredness was non existant two days on from my experience and I am still surprised that I havent had a "Crash" will see if there is a wacky wednesday tho.

Friends who were with me did comment that they thought you could increase the Buphedrone dosage 10 - 20 mg they also par took of this combination

have also posted this in mdai thread
 
thanks for the report.I agree that it s defintley a combo chem. It s also combo s well with certain party pills,have had excellent results combining.Basically 30-60mg lines every 30-45min. totally added a nice euphoric rush that lasted . on top of the already speedy/euphoric pill buzz=)It was just one of those unplanned successful events, I didn t think would be that NICE.:) Worth repeating with latest 'party pill'- r.d
 
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Some people participating this thread have taken doses near 100mg and seem to have been more disapointed than buzzed in an amphetamine like way. Others get stim effects on doses inbetween 5-20mg. This confuses me a lot.

I usually take 70mg Dexedrine or inject 150mg racemic amphetamine sulphate (purified street amp.) to catch a nice amphetamine buzz.

How much buphedrone would one need to get this level of stimulation?

Wikipedia claims this compound to be more potent than MCAT but reading through this read makes me seriously doubt that. It wouldn't be the first time the "facts" in wiki are not so on point.

I also have an amount of this stuff on the way to me and am anxious to get it so i can judge it's potency on my own.
 
this chem is fantastic!

its alright on its own but with MDAI it really shines.

just dosed:

120 mg MDAI - oral (T:0) - 2 hours ago
1 ml GBL - oral on empty stomach (T:20)
45 mg buphedrone - insufflated (T:30)
and just did another 20 mg insufflated

i am very pleasantly buzzed right now and quite shocked at how potent this combo is. no jitters, no anxiety, no peripheral stimulation or gastric side effects (which MDPV cripples me with) - just a nice, smooth euphoric high.

i highly recommend this combo.
very similar to MDMA in all respects.
 
See my earlier trip report for what it would be like on it's own the dosage range was set low because I was using tianeptine as a potentiator.

At some point I will be attempting an mdai and buph combo on it's own. It's been a couple of weeks since my report and out of all our experiences this I think is my fab but there are many more tests to come ;)
 
YopoDrono said:
this chem is fantastic!

its alright on its own but with MDAI it really shines.

just dosed:

120 mg MDAI - oral (T:0) - 2 hours ago
1 ml GBL - oral on empty stomach (T:20)
45 mg buphedrone - insufflated (T:30)
and just did another 20 mg insufflated

i am very pleasantly buzzed right now and quite shocked at how potent this combo is. no jitters, no anxiety, no peripheral stimulation or gastric side effects (which MDPV cripples me with) - just a nice, smooth euphoric high.

i highly recommend this combo.
very similar to MDMA in all respects.
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Nice, thx for the report, this combo looks interesting.
 
I have already posted this in an ADD thread, but this combination is so good (and cheap) that I feel compelled to share it in this thread too:

Mixing Geranamine, which has primarily CNS NE releasing\reuptaking inhibiting effects with a relatively low PNS profile, with buphedrone which seems to be more of a mild DARI lacking the NE 'push', in a 3:2 ratio (30mg buphedrone : 20mg Geranamine, etc) is WONDERFUL.

It feels very similar to cocaine, but less edgy, and with much less fiending. Also, it seems to last a good deal longer (You get a nice plateau for around an hour).

Geranamine is fucking CHEAP too, I picked up 2 grams(2000mg) from a site I quickly found on google for $5 shipping included... 0_0


This is an excellent way to stretch out the buphedrone, and honestly the high from 50mg buphedrone and ~30mg geranamine is WAY better than the buzz from sniffing 100mg buphedrone by itself...you're not only stretching it out and saving money you're getting a better drug-experience.

Their durations are also both very similar. I took all of my remaining buphedrone and combined it with geranamine in a 3:2 mix, there's really no reason to do it by itself. =D

EDIT: All doses in this post are for insufflation. I've come to the conclusion that although buphedrone has a nice rush smoked, it's very inefficient and I feel like a good amount is probably wasted because after 10 minutes you just feel slow and stupid. Sniffing it with geranamine produces a nice euphoria with ample stimulation but very little "jitteryness". I'm on a few fat rails right now ^_^


Also, geranamine burns like HELL snorted. It only hurts for 10 seconds tops though, but it is absolutely excruciating. Still a very nice combo though!
 
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^I don't know, I always felt that geranamine was like the bodily part of ethcat, so I don't believe geranamine has primarily CNS NE releasing/reuptake inhibiting abilities. I wonder how it mixes with ethcathinone though?
 
immad said:
^I don't know, I always felt that geranamine was like the bodily part of ethcat, so I don't believe geranamine has primarily CNS NE releasing/reuptake inhibiting abilities. I wonder how it mixes with ethcathinone though?
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According to wikipedia, 1,3 DMAA is a central NE releaser\reuptake inhibitor. Solo trials with it have confirmed to me that it has a relatively small effect on the heart in contrast with the mental stimulation and energy until you get to pretty high doses.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methylhexanamine

Also, searching through body building forums (which is primarily the field geranamine is utilized) show that most people find it mentally clarifying and stimulating but physically benign.
 
N0 W4RN1NG said:
According to wikipedia, 1,3 DMAA is a central NE releaser\reuptake inhibitor. Solo trials with it have confirmed to me that it has a relatively small effect on the heart in contrast with the mental stimulation and energy until you get to pretty high doses.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methylhexanamine

Also, searching through body building forums (which is primarily the field geranamine is utilized) show that most people find it mentally clarifying and stimulating but physically benign.
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Wiki also states that "Geranamine itself has not been researched intensively, with its pharmacological profile not looked at since Eli Lilly filed its patent in 1944, stating that the stimulant effects on the CNS are less than that of amphetamine or ephedrine.[5]"

Ephedrine hasn't a good cns/pns ratio and geranamine is even worse.
 
immad said:
Wiki also states that "Geranamine itself has not been researched intensively, with its pharmacological profile not looked at since Eli Lilly filed its patent in 1944, stating that the stimulant effects on the CNS are less than that of amphetamine or ephedrine.[5]"

Ephedrine hasn't a good cns/pns ratio and geranamine is even worse.
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I think those claims were made on a weight(mg) basis, I.E: Geranamine is less potent a stimulant in general than ephedrine or amphetamine.

I agree that ephedrine has a terrible ratio of central : peripheral effects, but 1,3 DMAA is not worse in this regard by any means. I have a 2 gram bag of the stuff and I've already done several bioassays,mostly with buphedrone but a few times by itself; I also have plenty of experience using 25mg "Bronkaid" ephedrine tablets over the past few years for energy.

I have found that, in agreement with the literature and experiences out there, 1,3 DMAA is DEFINITELY less PNS-oriented than ephedrine.

Shambles said:
Geranamine is also one of the main ingredients (along with piperazines) in many "herbal ecstasy" pills and other legal high concoctions. Not generally held in high regard even by legal high standards.
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I'm aware of that, and I agree that there is very little recreational effect to be gotten from 1,3 DMAA alone, but in combination with buphedrone it is a GREAT complement.
 
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