Esoteric [Bad Trip Subthread] How Do You Define "Bad Trip"?

[pf echoes]

Everytime I eat mushrooms I think the cops are outside and are surrounding where i'm at, I see perfect images of them shooting me and everything. So I flip out and grab knifes and hide behind the couch. When I look at stars they get bigger and seem like they are planets coming to smash into the earth. And I literally feel them smashing into the earth as time halts. Most people would think that would be the definition of a bad trip but not for me I think it's fucking adventurous lol.

 

[Redred]

There are no "bad" trips. That is, I don't trip for "fun", so I'm not dissapointed when I bring up some negative thoughts while tripping. Just need to work through them. Learn, progress, move on.

Amen,

Waking up naked in hospital with absolutely no recollection of how i got there was pretty unnerving, after i thought about it for a few months and remembered some of the experience it was in retrospect not really a bad trip in the sense that i was at any point scared, (except for when i was sober again) it just had bad outcomes.

 

[mushmind62]

I had freind who hardly ever tripped much. Well, at keg party he thought he was a grey squarle, and climbed a tree and jumped from tree to tree. Problem being, it was dark out. and no one saw him till he fell like 20ft. to the ground, he got pretty messed up. But he lost reality. so that would be the bad trip

 

[Mad Scientixst]

Now that I'm older I find seemingly negative experiences positive if I take the time to understand them. This happens about 25% of the time with smoked DMT and to a less extent for brief periods on other psychs. I still feel great, but can go through periods of utter terror at times. Other than these experiences, my only "bad trip" came as a result of bad intentions.

It was a high dose LSD experience in my early 20s. I slipped out of my girlfriend's mom's house to take LSD with a girl with which I was cheating...on Halloween...costumes required...at a large club venue in a medium sized city. Started feeling the effects upon arrival at the club. The first person we see is my GF's best friend; who tears me a new one for being a horrible person.

Venturing into the venue was a TERRIBLE idea in this state of mind. The fear was paralyzing. Acid takes hold and I hide under an RV in the parking lot for an unspecified period of time. Eventually mustered the courage to slink out from under the RV. Took seemingly an eternity to find my car, about 1/2 that time unlocking the mystery of unlocking a car door. I knew I couldn't drive.

The next task was debating who/how to call for a ride. I settled on calling the GF/mom and they thought I was just sleeping on the couch and joking. In my broken psychedelic language I explained the situation the best I could. They came to get me and were not impressed to say the least. The trip mellowed a bit upon arriving back at the house, but they insisted on taking to the ER the following morning as I continued my nonsensical behavior.

Combination of bad intentions, bad setting, bad motivations, bad interactions on the come up, bad results = really bad trip. It was years before experimented with psychs after this. IMO, younger or less mentally/emotionally developed users are more susceptible to "bad trips".

 

[tylerwashere]

The two times ive had a "bad trip" it has definitely been definitely a noticabley traumatic experience. For a few hours I had this horrible feeling that I've never had before and havent had since. It was a feeling I can only describe as dread. It felt like my mind was a huge bowl of soup just being stirred as I laid on my bed in the dark watching my popcorn ceiling change into different shapes and figures. After I finally fell asleep the feeling kind of lingered for a few weeks. Every once in awhile I felt that same horrible feeling come over me. It was really bad, but I feel like I learned from it. I learned about myself and what kind of feelings and emotions to stay away from while i'm tripping. I've always had alot of respect for acid and the entire experience, but before this trip i was feeling a little cocky and did not prepare the way i usually do before the trip. I was the only one tripping (4 blotter hits) in a house full of my friends arguing with each other over oxys. I now have alot more respect for LSD and don't go into the experience just "to trip balls" anymore

$0.02

 

[ford442]

i have heard that a 'bad trip' lasts the entire duration of the trip.. i have never had one or been witness to one i am pretty sure..

 

[Mjäll]

There's always a possibility of rationalizing any bad experience as a potentially strengthening och enlightening one.

 

[B9]

Bad trip = hospitalisation/arrest & or physical damage to another person.

 

[malakaix]

^ Yeah i would agree with that, anything else can usually be rationally thought through.

I drove myself to the hospital one morning after ingesting 3 tabs of an unknown psychedelic, and was displaying symptoms of speech impairment, thought disorder and uneven balance while walking. I ended up been fine from the basic practical tests they did.

I'm pretty certain i tricked myself into believing i had these symptoms, although 10-12hrs after ingesting the tabs and experiencing this had me a little concerned

 

[kobilica]

Bad trip - whole trip being shitty, scared and so on.

Sure great trips consist of shitty moments and feelings too, but you also get even greater part of goodness.

 

[she phoenix]

Hmmm.... the negative thought loop as I'm sure many of you will agree.

I had a very euporic mushroom trip once, for the most of it. It by the end I switched to a horrible dysphoria when I was consumed with guilt thinking of my Jehovah's Witness grandmother who passed away in Aug and I couldn't stop pictureing her face and I could hearher voice so clearly - the way she always used to shout my grandad's name.

 

[JBrandon]

I think there's a huge fucking distinction between an "unenjoyable" or "terrifying" trip where you become paranoid or have a terrible experience but are still cognizant of the fact that yes, you did take drugs, and yes, it will pass

vs.

a truly "bad" trip where you are DOSED incorrectly, unknowingly, or with the wrong substance, and suffer true physical torment, complete panic, feelings of true physical death, and complete inability to grasp any thread of reality or understand what is going on.


I'd also say anything that leads to physical, emotional, or fiscal damage is a "bad" trip too. A little psychological trauma is alright when it's isolated, but when you scare the fuck out of your girlfriend / mom / whoever and ruin a relationship, well, that's something else.

 

[Mr_Skunkyfingers]

it took me years to have a bad trip... thats with salvia exluded... i always gt a bad one with salvia... its something to do with the lack of control and outta body shit. Lsd can give me a bad trip.. sort of a deep paranoia followed by intense self consciousness. acid somethimes makes me feel lke a mangled freak with flappy cardboard limbs. i never see ghosts or monsters but i analyse relationships and always end up at the conclusion the whole world is agaisnt me... i think there is gangsters and police waitinng outside ready to kill me or arrest me for tripping the bad effects normally come after the peak of the trip. Mushrooms never ussed to get me it was always just a fungussy bliss but i get a bad trip off shrooms everytime now... it is always the same... my hand turns blue and it goes all limp then i think its expanding and gonna explode it goes nomb too. if i touch myself a hole forms and bits off my face fall off it i scratch it.. my eyes feeel like thy gonna fall out and i wanna scratch at them. i scratched my tongue up pretty badly after eating loads of liberty caps and scraping imaginarry metal off my tongue. ketamine aswell... always the same k hole that i never enjoy im normally asking for help after my body deteriates into a kind of bacteria and i cant think.. and then when i do i get stuck on old dark memeories off when girlfriends cheated on me when i was in the k hole.. i dunno if she even did but i hate that sniffy snuff these days. 2cb was by far the worse tho i took a ridiculous amount for some stupid reason when i was 21 and i was screaming the roof down at this squat. i was saying whats goin on what the fuck is going on tell me tell me or il just kill myself... i couldnt decifer who was a boy and who was a girl, language made no sense people seemed like pretend slaves i couldnt trust my best friend i thougfht the whole of london was a warehouse and i was being filmed by secret cameras hidden on busses. after running madley from the safe haven i was at i ended up alone in london convinced i was being followed by everyione i was with.. i had times where i couldnt bare to have my eyes open because they woudnt stop seeing... that was a nasty trip i wouldnt wish it on anyone... i cant describe it well and i dont remember all of it but i kno it was terrible because i still dream about it sometimes. Salvia trips are bad trips in my opinion... anyway dont listen to me i dunno what im on about
- peace and love

 

[Mr_Skunkyfingers]

my friend smegg was tripping on acid and loads of k on a roof of a museum by a massive glass sun roof thing when she tripped on a little brick edge and fell through the glass down like 2 stories onto the floor in the middle of this museum and after that she couldnt get the good vibes back she kept on getting really scared and kept on thiking she was still falling... poor smegg we all helped her as much as we could but she wasnt ok till the acid had calmed down... it was fucking strong shit

 

[Ender-]

Had my first "bad trip" last night. Throughout the night I kept getting more and more paranoid, I kept putting myself in situations I should have avoided, and it ultimately lead to me completely geeking out in my basement. I was extremely terrified and had no idea who I was. I begged for the trip to end, and time frightened me. I was hiding under a blanket on my coach and was sweating. This lasted for about 2 hours which sucked, but overall, in the end as I look back to it, it truly is a one of a kind experience and I do not regret it at all. Now I'll be more prepared next time if a similar situation occurs where I begin to have a bad trip. Bad trips should not be frowned upon because it adds a whole new aspect to your voyage, although it is completely and utterly terrifying throughout the duration. It literally is a nightmare you cannot wake up from.

Anyways, the religion channel (fucking hilarious on shrooms) and Finding Nemo (this shit blows your mind) saved my life for the last 3ish hours of my trip during the heavy tripping duration. So overall, 1 hour of good tripping, then 2 hours of bad trip, and finished off nicely with 3 hours of good tripping again, wasn't so bad.

 

[Raw Evil]

When this happens.

 

[Xtc <3]

My first panic attack after a bowl on mushrooms.
Most terrifying experience I have had to date.

Also is it possible for psychedelics to to create pain as a result of tripping?
During this panic attack the pain I felt in my chest was unbelievable (what made me worry)
Im wondering now whether it was actual pain or just a result of my anxiety building while tripping face.

I dont neccesarily fear many of the negative aspects of tripping.
However I do fear pain, have been weary of mushrooms since (Still love them though) :D

 

[egor]

I don't think its actually a "bad trip" unless you end up hospitalized, get arrested or have some kind of psychotic break. Other than that, all trips are learning experiences...

 

[Gungho510]

I consider a bad trip eating 5g shrooms your first time, having a death trip in your bathroom, and being driven to the hospital by your parents. Trust me, its not fun. At all.

 

[alantis360]

i agree if you dont have a psychotic break then its not really a bad trip. Although I think thats what most people are referring to ..