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What is the most harmful drug?

Tronica said:
I think Professor Nutt would have been including methamphetamine in the amphetamine category.
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I'd doubt that. If so, he's rating methamphetamine as less harmful than Ketamine, and only slightly more harmful than tobacco, which I don't believe for a second. I think Thizzerfershizzer is probably right that the survey reflects drug use in the UK, where meth (as opposed to speed/amphetamines) is extremely rare.
 
Immediately meth comes to mind. I find it hard to believe that it is possible to function within society's walls at all with a big meth habit. I can't really judge mth users too much; seems I have a permanent addiction to opiates and benzos, whereas meth users seem to crash and burn and then quit over a relatively short cycle.
 
captainballs said:
Immediately meth comes to mind. I find it hard to believe that it is possible to function within society's walls at all with a big meth habit.
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I think you've hit the nail on the head. Myself, and every other meth addict I know, are unemployed and pretty much living on the "fringes" of society. It's impossible to have a normal place in society while you're hooked on meth, and it's not an addiction that can be easily hidden. The majority of meth addicts are painfully obvious, even just to look at.
 
The answer completely depends on how you define harm.

And then, I imagine that any individual's most harmful drug will depend on their own characteristics - for some it might be meth, others heroin, still others alcohol, etc.

Furthermore, the harm experiences depends a lot on the setting of use.

Ranking drugs by harm attributes all the harm to the drug itself, when we know that 'drug, set, and setting' is the best way to understand harm.
 
Tronica said:
The answer completely depends on how you define harm.

And then, I imagine that any individual's most harmful drug will depend on their own characteristics - for some it might be meth, others heroin, still others alcohol, etc.

Furthermore, the harm experiences depends a lot on the setting of use.

Ranking drugs by harm attributes all the harm to the drug itself, when we know that 'drug, set, and setting' is the best way to understand harm.
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not eating is very harmfull and alcohol, meth and heroin, cocaine are all known for causeing this effect when used to excess.

simple most damaging thing to your body- malnutrition and having no energy to combat damage done by drugs
 
@The Chemist I and several of my friends have OD'd on datura. Dangerous stuff. Stopped my heart, super high fever, amnesia/blackout & several hours of unresponsiveness.
But if we're talking long term, intrinsic damage, I would have to say alcohol. It has a negative impact on EVERY organ and has a 20% mortality rate upon withdrawl.
 
I would have to say fentanyl is number one because an extremely tiny amount can cause an overdose, and it is often disguised as heroin.
 
D.O.I -> 2,5-dimethoxy-4-iodoamphetamine

I took strong hit of D.O.I and had fatal harmful effect (necrosis btw) and crappy stuff like that but i survived :D
 
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Can't underestimate nicotine, obviously not pure but cigarettes cause more health related problems just by the sheer number of people that smoke them. I don't think H should be number 1, its no a harmful drug per se, all the bad effects come from impurities and bad technique not the drug itself.
 
alcohol. leads to other things. very physically damaging. can be very mentally damaging. hangovers are terrible. addicting, and even more so since majority of people dont realize that.
 
Tronica said:
Sorry, wrong forum.

Drug Studies ---> Drug Culture? (I'm not sure DC mods. Please move if I'm wrong!)

Good question though. Have a look at Professor Nutt's work.

He used research evidence to rank 20 different types of drugs on 3 categories each with 3 subcategories: Physical harm (acute, chronic, intravenous harm), dependence (intensity of pleasure, psychological dependence, physical dependence), and social harm (intoxication, other social harms, health-care costs).

Mean harm scores for 20 substances

1. Heroin
2. Cocaine
3. Barbiturates
4. Methadone
5. Alcohol
6. Ketamine
7. Benzodiazepines
8. Amphetamine
9. Tobacco
10. Buprenorphine
11. Cannabis
12. Solvents
13. 4-MTA
14. LSD
15. Methylphenidrate
16. Anabolic steroids
17. GHB
18. Ecstasy
19. Amyl nitrates
20. Khat

He was recently sacked from the UK Drug Advisory board. His list makes the point that the illegal/legal split has little to do with harm.
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that study is a crock i think. i mean look at where he placed cannabis. so far NO ONE has ever overdosed from marijuana. and yet it ranks higher than solvents? solvents do one thing, kill brain cells. and GHB is at the bottom of the list? whatever. i watched a thing about this on the BBC. i feel like a lot of those results have to do with the popularity of the drugs.
 
alcohol, and I'm so sick of people saying heroin is bad for you because, as long as you're safe with it, it's really not, especially when compared to alcohol
 
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