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Mephedrone Megathread VII: Misunderstood Marvels & Malingering Metabolites

Sorry but this page is a bit daft IMO. Firstly the guy who ended up on hospital, it sounds like you had a panic attack, not the meph put you there. Also crackhead man, no offence but why do have to sniff the lot? If your going for moderation I'd say start of with a couple big bombs ~ 250-300mg, then redose the same around 45mins to an hour later with a small 50mg line 10mins after the redose if necessary and you should be battered! I was overdoing it a bit at one point last year when I had big bags of it laying around at my disposal.

If I do a g in a night... 300mg starter, 250mg an hour ish after and a wee line, then wait a couple of hours and another 250mg and another couple of small lines. Thats the perfect amount for me for a night. From say 12am-7am, completely spannered and enjoying my night. No need for more really. I think if you stick to around a g max its fine the next day after some sleep. Not drinking too much with it and I wake up with an afterglow. But as I was drinking the other night when I had it I was rough a bit for the first hour of waking up.

I think its better to dose with bombs first though, if you just sniff its more speedy and fiendish fo sho! If you don't want to go mad try just buying less between you and your mates?

Alot of the problem is going too mad with the stuff. Which most of us have been guilty of as its cheap and easily available.. :\
 
^ Oh I can relate to the fiending - it's why i won't touch it I know exactly how susceptible I am to redose stims/mdma etc - and i know what the consequences have been for me as well.


Criticism of people for fiendish behaviour isn't particularly useful IMO - they aren't in their right mind at the time then afterwards the guilt gets piled on top of the self pity - it's a pretty bitter tasting experience is fiending. it is also very difficult to learn not to do
 
sundayraver said:
IM DONE WITH MEPHEDRONE. This shit has put me in hospital...

I stayed up alll night friday night, consumed just 2/3g which iis less than normal for a friday night and gave me slight signs of vaso. Throughout saturday after the vaso faded I consumed around 150mg throughout the day in tiny bumps mainly to keep me awake. Immediatly after my final dose I got tingles all round my arms legs and back then the dark red blotches appeared on my arms and legs, my elbows and knees being mos effected. After a major panic and taking the usual anti vaso supps and drugs I go to a+e. Got an ECG and bloodwork, results came back fine but they put my vaso down to anxiety (it was cold in the hospital and the docs hands and arms were dark red also) and I am discharged.

Now my arms and legs are going from pale to dark redwith weird tingling sensations going aaround them. I'm very concerned I've done some serious damage, infact I'm freaking out because I'm scared if I go to sleep I'll never wake up. Fucking amxiety is killing me :(

BE FUCKING CAREFUL WITH THIS DRUG, IT MESSED ME UP ON A DOSE LOWER THAN I'M USED TO
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Sorry but this sounds mostly like anxiety. Of course it is from taking the drugs, partly.. but then if I had a scare, then took 150mg the next day, I think it would make me think there was something wrong too. :\

Hope your ok man, but even if you were tired I don't understand why anyone would do more the next day after you thought you were seeing signs of vaso. Surely if you needed to be awake and you had stuff to do, if you still have the PV that would have been a better option for getting stuff done. Mephedrone would not help me get anything done.
 
yeh that post was ridiculous tbh worrying about seeing sighns of vaso then doing more the next day is a bit stupid thats all there is to it
 
Meph had been in the states on a small level, but now it is being FLOODED in here at an alarming rate. 3 months ago none of my friends had heard of it, and even if they had they thought it was methadone, and now it has started to hit here. After reading on here about what kind of momentum it gained in europe, and seeing as how drug users in the US are all about moreish behavoir(i.e.-massive meth problem, H problem, crack) I am scared at what damage it might cause here.
 
B9 said:
^ Oh I can relate to the fiending - it's why i won't touch it I know exactly how susceptible I am to redose stims/mdma etc - and i know what the consequences have been for me as well.


Criticism of people for fiendish behaviour isn't particularly useful IMO - they aren't in their right mind at the time then afterwards the guilt gets piled on top of the self pity - it's a pretty bitter tasting experience is fiending. it is also very difficult to learn not to do
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I'm not trying to criticise him at all. I just think if people dosed it rather than just sniffing lines it works better and creates a bit less problems.

I've been pretty fiendish myself. But eventually you do learn things from it. Like I would not want to do 2 nights no sleep again on speed or any other stim. Eventually there comes a stage where redosing is just not worth it really. It is very hard to stop though, especially with meph. Its on par with coke for fiending or perhaps more fiendish even. Better not to have it in bulk aswell really..
 
Seriously that was a generalised coment i didn't know you'd been critical of his dosing techniques - more just an observation that over a long period of time much advice has been dished out with good intentions to people who aren't or cannot receive the message - maybe a different strategy would be more effective.

Obviously you're paranoid from all the meph your doing Captain ;)
 
B9 said:
Drug induced mental issues are drug induced you cannot dismiss it because he didn't have a limb amputated as merely nothing.
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Sorry but where are you getting this from? You are saying things I simply have not said! I'm not dismissing it as nothing!!! All I said was it sounds mostly of anxiety but of course it is partly from taking the drugs. Because stims do tend to heighten anxiety. And if you were already feeling anxious and seeing signs of vasconstriction then of course taking another 150mg the next day is going to make you think further there is something wrong... That is all I said. I did not dismiss it so stop putting words in my mouth.

B9 said:
Seriously that was a generalised coment i didn't know you'd been critical of his dosing techniques - more just an observation that over a long period of time much advice has been dished out withn good intentions to people who aren't or cannot receive the message - maybe a different strategy would be more effective.

Obviously you're paranoid from all the meph your doing Captain ;)
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Sorry I thought that was aimed at me for what I said to crackhead.

Haha I'm the face of moderation these days B9 :)
 
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been head said:
yeh that post was ridiculous tbh worrying about seeing sighns of vaso then doing more the next day is a bit stupid thats all there is to it
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This was the post I was responding to :)


& for no other reason than it demonstrates one of the usual type of responses - essentially well meant but seemingly proving ineffectual so many times.
I'm not criticising peoples intentions just wondering if there's a more effective way to do it.
 
yeah I often think that the advice given to people is obviously correct yet fails to work - so what can one do - something else maybe - just give up trying - i dunno but I can tell you someone with a drug problem may sit & listen to what is being said but the words just go into the head & remain their unprocessed as the mind is thinking other things.

They often have to edit their posts for typos as well :o

A better/different style or way would be worthwhile trying - of course working out what that could be isn't easy.
 
This was the post I was responding to
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Yeah fiending is crazy if you have alot around and can make you do daft things. I know I've redosed when deep down I knew I probably shouldn't have :\

Thing is just to learn from bad experiances I guess. It took me alot of them to learn anything.
sundayraver actually did less than I usually do when this happened he did about 600mgs or so. I usually do around a g. Its just best not to have laying around too much..
A better/different style or way would be worthwhile trying - of course working out what that could be isn't easy.
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Yeah thats it. And everyone is different, so needs to find what works for them. It takes a fair bit of trial and error aswell. But I think when the fiending comes it does take a great deal of willpower with this stuff. Which is why its really best just to buy enough for the one night, or leave it somewhere out of the way, in my opinion anyway.
 
You're all just dirty meph heads and quite frankly, it's disgusting.

P Smegson (94)
Haverigg,
Cumbria.
 
captain codshit said:
Its just best not to have laying around too much..
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The only reason I eventually got a handle on it was having too much laying around, and taking it to the point i was mentally as well as physically sick of it. Snorting a line would almost have me puking. I have no problem leaving the stuff alone now.
 
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