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Reason for the Global MDMA Crisis (GMC)

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Its a no-win situation here in Australia.

I mean Pills now days is a common thing. Every second tom, dick and harry is on pills now days and its like 'nothing'. All these new people starting out on them are getting what they "think" is Ecstasy. A lot of uneducated people out there and they just dont know what they are getting and believe they are getting MDMA pills. Half the people now wouldnt even know what MDMA is. I've seen a lot of people dont even know what the hell that is. Its a disgrace really. They just pop them and think "as long as they work, they must be ok".

The 'rave' scene here in Australia is also really taking off. And becoming very mainstream. Im not associating Ecstasy entirely on the rave scene but here in Oz, its like the 'new in thing' among young people. A lot of new comers to the scene that just really dont have a famous idea what the hell is going on and will pop whatever they get there hands on. There never will be anything like "lets all stop buying pills and then the dealers will pick their games up and sell quality". Sorry to bust ya bubble guys but MOST dealers couldnt give a rats arse. 90% of them still sell other shit (other than pills) and concentrate on that when pills are shit.

If anything, dealers wont even care if u buy pills or not and just leave it out completely. The fact of the matter is, Australia is like the 2nd biggest pill munches in the world, just under Europe. And like anything its all marketing. If everyone stops buying pills, then there is NO market. So therefore - no interest for dealers, cooks, importers and so on to bring this shit to Oz.

Another emerging drug that is really taking off is Ice. As pills go down shit creek, everyone is turning to Meth now days. We already saw the media about how Coke is taking off and that will soon be the 'in thing' among everyone.

We really are in a no-win situation guys. I suppose, YES, if you do know the right people or connections then you might score lucky with decent MDMA.

Time will tell I guess...
 
sublimer45er said:
Its a no-win situation here in Australia.

I mean Pills now days is a common thing. Every second tom, dick and harry is on pills now days and its like 'nothing'. All these new people starting out on them are getting what they "think" is Ecstasy. A lot of uneducated people out there and they just dont know what they are getting and believe they are getting MDMA pills. Half the people now wouldnt even know what MDMA is. I've seen a lot of people dont even know what the hell that is. Its a disgrace really. They just pop them and think "as long as they work, they must be ok".

The 'rave' scene here in Australia is also really taking off. And becoming very mainstream. Im not associating Ecstasy entirely on the rave scene but here in Oz, its like the 'new in thing' among young people. A lot of new comers to the scene that just really dont have a famous idea what the hell is going on and will pop whatever they get there hands on. There never will be anything like "lets all stop buying pills and then the dealers will pick their games up and sell quality". Sorry to bust ya bubble guys but MOST dealers couldnt give a rats arse. 90% of them still sell other shit (other than pills) and concentrate on that when pills are shit.

If anything, dealers wont even care if u buy pills or not and just leave it out completely. The fact of the matter is, Australia is like the 2nd biggest pill munches in the world, just under Europe. And like anything its all marketing. If everyone stops buying pills, then there is NO market. So therefore - no interest for dealers, cooks, importers and so on to bring this shit to Oz.

Another emerging drug that is really taking off is Ice. As pills go down shit creek, everyone is turning to Meth now days. We already saw the media about how Coke is taking off and that will soon be the 'in thing' among everyone.

We really are in a no-win situation guys. I suppose, YES, if you do know the right people or connections then you might score lucky with decent MDMA.

Time will tell I guess...
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Couldnt have said it better. Ur da man:) Agree with everything u just said.
 
Couldnt have said it better. Ur da man Agree with everything u just said.
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Cheers bro. But yeah thats just the way it is now days. It was always a money making thing and nothing more.

The whole "PLUR", "love drug", "hug drug", "love", "happyness drug" - Whatever the names you wanna associate with it. Them days are gone... It was something so great back 15-20yrs ago and as years go on, everyone wanted to try it and start abusing it. Wrecking it all for the whole scene.

Because of idiots we now have huge crackdowns on this stuff. Its only gonna get harder.

But who knows, maybe it will pick up or maybe it wont. Like I said before - it is an emerging thing and maybe some interested cooks or exporters are starting to get really interested in Australia.

At the moment, Europe is up shit creek as well. Not as bad as Oz but still declining. The Dutch government are cracking down on all the drugs now days cause they are sick of getting blamed for the whole world drug crisis. Every country points there fingers at The Netherlands, as the only country allowing drugs and not giving a shit. Its got to the point where the Dutch government is embarrassed and are sick of everyone blaming them. Therefore more crack downs on MDMA labs, exporting at Airports/Shipping Ports, etc etc.

Our real hope for survival is Canada. Another big player in MDMA manufacturer. We can only hope Canada or the US atleast helps us out. I mean, we help them out with any world problems or war so why cant they help us out lol :P
 
sublimer45er said:
Cheers bro. But yeah thats just the way it is now days. It was always a money making thing and nothing more.

The whole "PLUR", "love drug", "hug drug", "love", "happyness drug" - Whatever the names you wanna associate with it. Them days are gone... It was something so great back 15-20yrs ago and as years go on, everyone wanted to try it and start abusing it. Wrecking it all for the whole scene.

Because of idiots we now have huge crackdowns on this stuff. Its only gonna get harder.

But who knows, maybe it will pick up or maybe it wont. Like I said before - it is an emerging thing and maybe some interested cooks or exporters are starting to get really interested in Australia.

At the moment, Europe is up shit creek as well. Not as bad as Oz but still declining. The Dutch government are cracking down on all the drugs now days cause they are sick of getting blamed for the whole world drug crisis. Every country points there fingers at The Netherlands, as the only country allowing drugs and not giving a shit. Its got to the point where the Dutch government is embarrassed and are sick of everyone blaming them. Therefore more crack downs on MDMA labs, exporting at Airports/Shipping Ports, etc etc.

Our real hope for survival is Canada. Another big player in MDMA manufacturer. We can only hope Canada or the US atleast helps us out. I mean, we help them out with any world problems or war so why cant they help us out lol :P
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Makes me wish I was around 15-20 minutes years ago :(
 
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sublimer45er said:
Cheers bro. But yeah thats just the way it is now days. It was always a money making thing and nothing more.

Them days are gone... It was something so great back 15-20yrs ago and as years go on, everyone wanted to try it and start abusing it. Wrecking it all for the whole scene.

Because of idiots we now have huge crackdowns on this stuff. Its only gonna get harder.
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You really think it is just due to idiots that everyone is cracking down on this??

I don't agree at all, you only have to look back in history to see that anything that alters the consciousness of a good % of the population and makes them harder to control and more free thinking has been cracked down on since day dot.
My case in point is Alcohol and Tobacco hasn't been outlawed yet every other (decent) mind altering substance is either prohibited or in the process of being so.
The Governments and people in authority don't want free spirited, open minded people to govern, that only makes them harder to control and more likely to speak out against wars and policies.

If it was only due to the abuse of drugs by idiots that things were outlawed then things like Methylone, and other RC's which are only new to the scene would not be classified as there hasn't been the potential for abuse in the wider population as yet

Just my opinion
 
a lot of posts on the last page, those reminiscent of the past, all seem to think that mdma has been pretty much dead for years, but i heard one post mentioning the green scoripions as being decent. if you can be reasonably happy with the scorpions, then what was wrong with the following pills (btw i am only listing the decent ones ive had, ive had plenty of dissapointing ones as well):

2007

yellow windmill(big fat pill with what looked like layers of crop circles on one side, felt clean MDMA. my first ever pill and after 15 minutes i was rushing like crazy then bout 5 mins after that i was so completely smakced it wasnt funny i had NO CLUE what was going on lol but still loving every minute of it)
pink apples (quite a small pill, strong pink almost red in colour, felt clean MDMA)
white monsters inc (forget what it looked like, felt clean MDMA-in fact, the only time i have got super loved up off one pill without being smacked out of my nut at the same time e.g. yellow diamond)
pink tulip (definantly on the wrong side of medium dose, but felt clean MDMA)
white kangaroo(strong MDxx + amp)

2008

white diamond (MDEA?, eye wiggles started at one but really kicked in at two)
blue clover (average medium dose pills, ide say on par or a bit bitter then the green squirrels of mid 09)
yellow smiley (HEAPS of batches, the one i had was like tic tacs for the eys and then a little smile)
red star (very nice pills, late 09)
yellow diamond-my friend sed these were saved from years past, and i would agree with his suspicions- one got me to the perfect level, i didnt need anymore as we were at a hosue gathering but i was loved up and smacked hard off one.. other then the yellow windmills and white sexes, these are the only true high dose pills i have had and they were fucking amazing. however, i had been to states like this before off all of the pills mentioned in this thread excedpt not off one pill

2009
white sex (tic tac shaped, had the gender symbol on them. 1 pill easily got me there, and after 3 over a few hours i turned down free ones lol i was very buckled, maybe MDA)
blue stars (MDMA? anyway they were about the same dose if not higher then the white sexes and rred stars of 08)

heres where i agree with everyone that good pills started getting really hard to find, this is about february 09..

since then ive had (and been happy with)

green squirrels (mid 09, FINALLY some decent MDMA lol so i didnt mind they were very average dose)
brown/red cherries (looked like dirty pills, logo very hard to make out however nice dose MDMA
orange buttefly (friend got these around mid-late 09 however we were told these were saved from the past. i was already on 2 of the red cherries but they did feel super nice when they kicked in and after having one i didnt need any for the rest of the night
white moons (MDA, i was very happy after double dumping for many hours before redosing)

ok so they are the pills ive got and been happy with. sometimes i needed to take more then one or two, however pills r cheaper these days anyway-as we know, bunk pills and high dose pills are expected to go for the same price on the street (big part of the problem imo)

i got the moons in november 09 and i havnt found good MDxx around since (but i havnt been looking either) and so yeah, it probably is getting much harder to find however i never think MD will dissapear for good or forever.. to people in the right circles they are willing to pay more for the experience they want
also, ive met many people lately who are starting to get over all the shitty pills around-many of these part of the uneducated mass :o :P

the logics of economics and the scene of the 90's dictate MDMA will make a return at some point in the future, however it may be later rather then sooner..
 
I loved the squirrels, always reliable for a good night out.
Since then though, with the exception of the White Hearts coming back, Perth has been pretty lousy
 
Not sure about the GLOBAL crisis....

Australia - Mokbel BUSTED PILLS DECLINE....bit of a coincidence don't you think ?

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i think we're witnessing a flat line in the australian market due to a whole range of circumstances lining up against it....it was always a matter of chance, just happens to have occurred. but i would be surprised if it doesn't pick up again within the next couple of years

we've got the war on terror tightening security in general and and the availability of ketones which, as far as i'm aware are used in the manufacture of both mdma and explosives (sure someone more informed on such can confirm deny?)

a few large busts within the key supply areas of australia, two of which come to mind were entirely luck and not at all the result of australian police investigation

the fall of the old "mafia" system basically world wide, notably in victoria

the "bikie war" basically locking up a lot of the old supply lines here in au, as even though they aren't all involved in this sort of thing there were at least a few of them involved in just about everything which had the potential to bring heat on everyone else as associates

and the popularity of ecstasy it's self.......
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Well done ;)
 
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chemi said:
Makes me wish I was around 15-20 minutes years ago :(
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LOL at ur reply Chemi haha. Too much green:P

I dont know what the scene was like in AU years ago but if u were in the scene in EU say 5-6 years ago ud find sum awesome mdma pills ranging from 80mg-180mg. The date that good pills died there was around 2004-2005. Im pretty sure that had a big impact on the rest of the world too.

Its funny as in that year piperazines emerged and there were a ton of articles regarding that. Coincidence? That and the fall of major manufactuers resulted in pumping out pips as an alternative.
 
My mate still goes on about how good the splits(white) and mini splits (white)where from the mid 90" to late 90's.
I will say in the early 90's there were duds but then when you got sorted it really was game on and one pill was a night out in XTC!
 
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trippa said:
The Governments and people in authority don't want free spirited, open minded people to govern, that only makes them harder to control and more likely to speak out against wars and policies.



Just my opinion
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Too right
 
There has been plenty of good pills over the years and MDMA is still available today

It is a matter of who you know and the availability will fluctuate due to new cheap adulterants being available, kingpins getting busted and the availability of precursors to make MDMA

I am closing this thread as it has run it's course and it is only becoming an "I used to get this" thread

I wish you all the best in your MDMA seeking endeavors and can't warn you enough about the dangers of adulterants in ecstasy pills

Please use testing kits and never take a dealer's words as gospel, even if they are a friend!

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