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Speed & Psychedelics - Warnings & HR Methods

Psilo I think you missed my question, but would dexies and acid have a similar effect?
 
I think you know that i did not miss your question and PM'd you in regards to said question

Read my first post in this thread again for my answer to stim+psych combo

I will offer this...

Mixing any psych with any stimulant is seriously playing with fire
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You may pull it off, if you don't, you're in for one hell of a rough ride

Psilo :)
 
^I think it may also depend on how you react to amphetamines too. I'm scripted dexamphetamine for adult ADD... so amphetamines probably effect me differently to most people. They still increase energy, motivation etc but in a more calming sort of way. Dose high enough though and regardless of any medical conditions and you'll be bouncing off the walls (if not physically, atleast mentally). Speed is speed at the end of the day.

Your definitely right about mixing stims and psyches as 'playing with fire'. You really need to know your own mind, tolerances, how drugs effect you amongts lots of other factors. Probably not a good combo for most people. I never used to, but after using acid a bunch of times I tend to get a kick out of feeling almost insane and manic on it, which speed definitely adds to. I must be in a minority though for this. Crashing off amps + tripping = hell.

Psilo's first post in this thread sums it up. Great advice.
 
If you are scripted dexies and stick to your prescribed dose, I can't see much trouble with combo

If you were to take a very noticeable dose then you may have a difficult trip but i'm sure your tolerance to dex amph is massive
 
I have a friend who swears by taking LSD on his comedowns. This mostly applies to MDMA but also speed too. I have done it, though small doses. Its ok, though it kind of delays the inevitable comedown. Its not something I'm going to do again coz I feel it is only a matter of time before it goes bad.

I'm yet to candyflip but was thinking of trying it soon. Would you need to be in an environment where you can dance or will it be fine to do it doing the normal tripping thing (ie. talking shit at a mates place or going exploring haha)?

Also, what is LSD like to combine with mephedrone? has anyone done it? Is it like candy flipping? I'm not about to run out and try this but am curious to see if others have.
 
@Psilo
Yeah, and that's what I did. Used way more then prescribed. Bad idea.
 
The first and last time I touched hallucinogenic drugs of any kind was in 2006 when I tripped on mushrooms after being awake on meth for 3 days. Worst experience of my life, fucked me up for a good 6 months after that. It was a stupid thing to do. I wouldn't recommend this combo to anyone who is not extremely experienced with tripping.
 
Yea i felt similar to u. Did ice for days b4 NY then did acid. I consider myself being a very experienced tripper. 100 + trips behind me and never had a bad trip but will always consider doin psychs after speed. Tripping whilst not feeling good whether ur sick, upset, angry or not in a good mindset is not good at all. Bottom line is dont fuk with psychs or u it can turn on u like nothing else.
 
PsiloSubNaut said:
Sorry to hear about that one footscrazy

The same combo put a few of my friends of psychs for life
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I know alot of people who will never touch psychs ever again because of a bad trip. Sum people never think when they are doing it. Its not like mdma where u cant go wrong and everything is cool. I have learnt to respect them, no wonder they are called our teachers. U always learn from a trip. Good and bad things.
 
footscrazy said:
The first and last time I touched hallucinogenic drugs of any kind was in 2006 when I tripped on mushrooms after being awake on meth for 3 days. Worst experience of my life, fucked me up for a good 6 months after that. It was a stupid thing to do. I wouldn't recommend this combo to anyone who is not extremely experienced with tripping.
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Damn, that's a shame as psychedelics have some amazing things to offer. I hope you've positively intergrated something from that trip into your life/mental psyche. And have gained something from it. As bad as some trips can get, they can also get that good and then some. Well worth trying again in the right set/setting, dose etc.

I'm not talking about taking acid after tweaking for multiple days though, I'm more talking about mixing them in a synergizing type of way, like one would do with a candyflip. Mixing the two for an 8 to 12 hour experience or more depending on if you decide to keep hitting the speed when the acid or mushies or whatever it may be has worn off or is a bit from wearing off, I always stop so that I can get some sleep at some point. Multiple days awake isn't for me.

It's all in the timing and having experience with each substance and DO NOT overdo it in terms of doses or time it poorly so the amphets wear off before the psychedelic. That is really vital. Tolerance also plays a part.

I wouldn't be doing these combos as much if there was just some good MDMA around. Ah well.

I'd be curious to hear from others who have combined speed+psychedelics and any tips/stories they may have :D
 
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psytaco said:
Also, what is LSD like to combine with mephedrone? has anyone done it? Is it like candy flipping? I'm not about to run out and try this but am curious to see if others have.
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Tried this combo over new years, not much to report...its nothing special. Didn't notice the usual mephedrone fiending, probably because I spent most of the time explaining to everyone how shit a drug meph is.
 
rogan said:
Tried this combo over new years, not much to report...its nothing special. Didn't notice the usual mephedrone fiending, probably because I spent most of the time explaining to everyone how shit a drug meph is.
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4mmc by itself is a wonderful drug, prob up there with my most favorites. Had to stop it cos it was gettin out of hand and not to mention the possible side effects that can occur later on. Glad i tried it? Yes. Would i use it or abuse it again? Nope.
 
In the long run I'm glad I had the experience because it brought a lot of my anxieties etc to the fore and forced me to deal with them in the months following the trip; while it was truly terrible at the time, I learnt to deal with myself and my fears to the point where I feel in control of my emotions, rather than the other way around. I doubt I would ever have been forced to do this without the trip, and I believe the experience has ultimately led to great improvements in my life.

Every so often I do consider doing halluncinogenic drugs again, but I think the sheer terror I felt during the trip has been deeply imbedded in my mind. I feel no conscious fear of these drugs anymore, and despite feeling comfortable and in control, when I put half a blotter in my mouth a few months back I felt instant terror again, and spat it out. I could probably work through my fears, at the moment though, I just don't have any great desire to. To be honest, I'm just ok with not ever experiencing it.
 
I have a feeling a strong dose of meth with a strong dose of acid would feel similar to when I stupidly smoked DMT while in the peak of Wd'ing from a high dose habit of oxycontin :/ What can I say it was a surprise getting the DMT and I couldnt wait even though I knew in the back of my head it would be a disaster. Not surprisingly I relapsed right after this experience because I was "stuck in hell" I ended up having a giant shot of oxy with a few xannies and not long after I was fine with little memory of the DMT trip(xannax for ya :/, seems to erase memory from a few hours before I take the xannax, not just while its coursing through my bloodstream)

At the last rave I went to people got me paranoid so I ended up taking all my drugs at once(I knew this was safe, its not like I had 3-4 pills at once) I had one hit of decent acid after some coke wore off plus I had a tiny bit of meth earlier that day(plus my methadone, MMT) and later that night I had 1 1/2 MDMA tabs and I was fine, I had a great night but I didnt really mean to mix all that stuff and I wouldnt do it again.
 
Sustanon said:
4mmc by itself is a wonderful drug, prob up there with my most favorites. Had to stop it cos it was gettin out of hand and not to mention the possible side effects that can occur later on. Glad i tried it? Yes. Would i use it or abuse it again? Nope.
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Don't get me wrong, I also love the drug...when I was saying it was a shit drug I meant in terms of its side effects.
 
I recently had a HBWR trip where i decided to have some methylphenidate to counteract the sedation from the seeds. Big fumble.

I crushed and snorted a 10mg pill and it was great for the first 15 minutes. But then the paranoia took hold and i freaked the fuck out. I was barely able to talk or formulate ideas with words, i ran around the house looking for where i'd hidden the damn valium, no luck.
4 hours of freaking out that my parents would find out about my drug use, that i'd be commited to a mental ward, that i'd be shunned by my friends and family. Not fun at all.

That said, the trip was probably good for me, feeling a lack of control is not something i experience often and i needed a good kick up the arse too.
 
I have heard that a bit of meth during the afterglow of a cid trip can be good, unfortunately the only times I've mixed them I've done it the wrong way round and ended up in hell.
 
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