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hey sus was that stuff above sold to you as crystal meth? it looks alot like the stuff that i come across every now and then, last time about a month ago. they sell it as "smokeable wiz" (lol thats the term they use) which means good quality 'base' that can be smoked.

Here's a pic of the stuff a got, its hard to tell but they look very simular...
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hey sus was that stuff above sold to you as crystal meth? it looks alot like the stuff that i come across every now and then, last time about a month ago. they sell it as "smokeable wiz" (lol thats the term they use) which means good quality 'base' that can be smoked.

Here's a pic of the stuff a got, its hard to tell but they look very simular...
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Yea was sold to me as ice, i dont use "base"anymore. Way to cut n crap even tho it costs almost bout 1/10th of the ice. 50mg = 0.5g of "base"

Always prefer quality over quantity. Nice lookin stuff u got there. How pure u rekon it is? The stuff in my pic is pretty damn pure, cant get purer:P
 
real anhydrous!!! its back again!!!!

the smell of amphetamine is so potent you can smell it through the bag from a foot away.
i had a few crumbs to taste it. very strong chemical taste.

anyways. this stuff is light blue in colour.
anyone else encountered this stuff? and why is it blue?
the blue tint means it had blue 60 mg pseudoephedrine tablets and was cooked up with real anhydrous ammonia which most of the time is not accessible (only around winter time),( even without the real gas, the blue 60mg tabs will give the dope a super faint blue tint invisible to the naked eye, the gas itself enhances the color but even without the blue tabs, dope would still be blue tinted) most people make their own anhydrous or just do shake and bake, you were lucky to get the blue stuff, i just so happen to have steady supply most of the time which almost sucks because of its potency, you build up a high tolerance to it very quickly, enjoy it while its around dude, cuz when march hits, its bye bye until december again
 
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No way would it be copper sulphate. Copper sulphate makes you sick as a dog if you eat it and will make you throw up vile, brown spew... Trust me, i know from experience!

I could only imagine how horrible it would be banging copper sulphate!

Ah man I wouldn't want to see that, I reckon bangin it would mess you up quite well. In the bad way.

SpecTBK=D
 
That's fair enough, thanks for the feedback :). Makes sense. I just hope with the increase in piperazines and various other RCs that have infiltrated the ecstasy market don't eventually end up being sold as powdered and/or crystal methamphetamine to unknowing users. But like you say it's too hard to determine exactly what product someone may have obtained from a simple visual description/picture when it comes to 'speed'.

Considering the ease in which people with a very basic knowledge of chemistry can make the stuff I don't see why adulterants would become a big issue anyway (unless cheaper options with similar effects became easily available). The thread would mainly serve as a check on the quality of 'speed' in certain areas rather then being based around HR due to adulterants. I rarely do street speed these days but I just hope it doesn't head the same way ecstasy has recently. I doubt it will though, hopefully.

Can always test your 'speed' like you can test ecstasy if you have doubts on what's in it - with a testing kit. I've had street speed/meth have no effect at all or very little effect, also had batches that made me highly anxious and anti-social, and other batches that have felt very clean, no body load and highly sociable, so there is definitely a variation in quality/impurities when it comes to speed/meth.

I guess just try a small amount before doing larger doses with unknown batches. I must say I respect AusDD's solid stance on HR compared to other forums on Bluelight, I browse alot of forums here and AusDD seems to be well looked after and taken care of in that regard (focusing on HR) :)

Excuse my rambling, thats 'phets for you ;) Peace out.



Man, I started that LSD Info request thing when I went on a trip to a rave in Sydney. I wanted one for speed too and even that then got turned down. I appreciate the control the mods take here at AUSDD. I feel perhaps a thread where people can photograph their crank or juice. But police could be a problem.

I dunno, doesn't matter. The shyte gets jumped the F*ck on. So perhaps a sticky on identifying cuts and especially dangerous adulterants. If there really is a way. Complications that may come due to leftover residues/waxes from synth. Cause really there's not all that much stuff about that side of things. LOL- What not to boot!

SpecTBK=D
 
Special-T.B.K said:
I feel perhaps a thread where people can photograph their crank or juice. But police could be a problem.

I dunno, doesn't matter. The shyte gets jumped the F*ck on. So perhaps a sticky on identifying cuts and especially dangerous adulterants. If there really is a way. Complications that may come due to leftover residues/waxes from synth. Cause really there's not all that much stuff about that side of things. LOL- What not to boot!


Without proper lab facilities it's impossible to completely identify many impurities.

In light of that:

1) If it's coloured and or gluggy it's definitely impure - avoid if possible or clean if desperate. (details can be found, UTSE)

2) If it's white or crystalline, a melting point test can be done. (MPs have been posted here before - again, UTSE). A narrow MP range indicates purity. A significantly lower MP or melting across a broad temperature range indicates an impure sample.

3) TLC can be performed, and can provide valuable information on purity and characteristics of impurities. TLC can also be used in conjunction with test kit reagents, providing additional information (really improves the reliability of test kits).

A dedicated melting point apparatus can be purchased online, although units are generally quite expensive. S/H units are around though. An alternative, less accurate but still worthwhile method includes using a test tube (thiele type is best), a thermometer and heat source. If using a tube get an assistant to write down the results as observed. I believe details have been posted here before.

As indicated by my opening statement, I doubt there is much HR value in posting pics of dirty meth with the hope of finding out what the impurities are. But if every picture posted of white or near white product had been subjected to the melting point test, we'd have a lot more info, and it might just help the rose coloured glasses wearers among us realise that "all that glitters isn't gold".

If someone was serious about identifying these impurities, if not specifically by name, but by specific characteristics, then a database of thin layer chromatography results could be assembled. The techniques are simple, and don't require large samples or an in-depth knowledge of chemistry. If you ever did high school chem and remember an experiment where you separated inks on blotting paper, then you've already done simple chromatography

More can be found online, but for those unable to search....

Wiki- Thin Layer Chromatography


Chem UCLA


CU Buolder Organic Chem Undergrad courses


Chemguide.co.uk - Thin Layer Chromatography

Google video results for TLC

For anyone interested, I'd suggest using OTC products such as ibuprofen, acetaminophen, acetylsalicylic acid etc to get familiar with the techniques.

So what will TLC tell you? Well, to put it simply, if there's only a single compound present, you will end up with a single spot. If you have a mixture, these will usually separate (if not change the mobile phase mixture ratio). Sometimes both will travel along the stationary phase (TLC plate) at a similar rate under certain conditions, but alter the parameters on the next run, and they normally separate. So, if a certain impure product shows a typical Rf (retention factor) for meth (Clarkes Analysis of Drug s and Poisons has this data) as well as other spots indicating impurities, then the Rf values can be noted and compared against future samples. Also note, some adulterants and impurities such as pseudo are also listed the Clarke's reference, meaning these can be identified using TLC.
 
For someone that rarely uses speed, would having half a gram in one go be too much/overwhelming? We got some over new years and I haven't touched the stuff in over a year but I had a fair amount of fun off 3 points and didn't feel bad at any stage during the night. It was consumed in one line. It was brown if that helps at all so I imagine the stuff we're getting this weekend will be the same.
 
If you were fine off 3 points I can't see 5 points being a major issue, just be aware of how your body is reacting, look out for signs that it is under stress and you should have no worries
 
Unless it is the same stuff, and believe me theres a good chance that it is not, theres no way to say how an amount will effect you this time based on how an amount did last time. My advice would be to use 2-2.5 points and see how you go, if you need the rest then use it, if not then save it for another night.
 
For someone that rarely uses speed, would having half a gram in one go be too much/overwhelming? We got some over new years and I haven't touched the stuff in over a year but I had a fair amount of fun off 3 points and didn't feel bad at any stage during the night. It was consumed in one line. It was brown if that helps at all so I imagine the stuff we're getting this weekend will be the same.

No one can tell u how potent ur speed is. If ur speed is in Sydney or close by theres a high chance its the one we were getting a while ago then again no one knows if that has be further stepped on or not.

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My advice would be if ur not familiar with ur source/substance/purity then never do more than 50mg. Test to see how potent it is. Believe me i have had sum pretty pure pasty shit that wired me when i did a normal dose which is normally 100-200mg. Was almost too much.
 
Yeah it looks pretty similar to that Sustanon. I'll give say a point a test run tonight or tomorrow night and go from there. Tbh I think half a gram for someone like would be almost bordering on excessive but just thought I'd throw it out there and see what people suggested. I've always preferred the kick I get from doing 2-3 points at once rather than going back to it over the course of a night though. Plus I'm going to a certain event this weekend and I'd rather do it before I get there because I hate carrying gear around with me and don't want to be at risk of getting busted.

Thanks guys.
 
OK Guys. This thread has been worrying me for a while and it has become a real dicksizing contest, and most of the HR has evaporated. If you wish to start a Speed thread that has more of a HR message go ahead. If you have any questions PM me.

Speed + LSD Thread For instance is a good example.

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