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Ketamine Appreciation Thread: Ver Two Wonks Don't Make A Right

It's not a saleable commodity - it's like a pet wild bird you've got to tame it yourself :)


However I can sell you a packet of random powder marked "for self control" the trick is not to take it ever - then you know your on the righteous path :)
 
I've seen cannabis cause problems - I don't believe it's quite as benign as people suggest. It's often not the chemical but the user that is problematic in my opinion.

Yeah I agree with that. I got some sort of weird anxiety from using cannabis daily so don't use so much now. On a break off everything at the moment, see how long I can last. Hopefully will make it till my birthday at end of Feb...
 
However I can sell you a packet of random powder marked "for self control" the trick is not to take it ever - then you know your on the righteous path :)

If only we still had sigs. Brilliant. :)

Buzzybee - Sounds to me from your short explanation that you may just have a high tolerance, I'm guessing naturally by the tone of your post.

Or your friends are big kitty lovers and were used to doing it a bit more than you are.
 
classificaion is simply a guide to how harsh the sentence will be to folk involved with said classified drug n yes i do believe itdesaffect peoples judgement on wether or not to take the drug.
e.g if christal meth was class c one may think oh maybe its not addictive as heroin, as not every one is au fait with thelikes of bluelight n similar sites.

Overall i think drug classification is a good guide for pricing the drugs
 
^^^^^
intersting indeed , however i know mid to end of jan it'll be back to normal,there was a convention recently in brighton and the main discourse was how much underestimated is the demand by the suppliers which then asks how do we bring so much more cos on reflection one can see the cycle of when it comes to when it runs out, this shouldnt happen , i think this will be rectified this yr and there will be no gaps or droughts.
 
impossible to diagnose without knowing the product you had. sometimes it's crystally, sometimes it's powdery. IME that makes no difference. however, the set and setting is crucial to a good experience. :)

Correct.

meph would be the problem there. i base this opinion on pure hunch, not experience. i'm pretty sure it's the combo that caused it, not the over indulgence.

mdma + ket = win

meph + ket = ???

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So how the fuck did you jump from 100% correctness to this? An opinion based on 'hunch not experience' becoming a near certainty ('i'm pretty sure its the combo') in barely half a sentence? Wouldn't be anything to do with hanging around BL's constant portents of doom and shitness about mephedrone no? No, I'm sure that can't be right. :\

Meph + ket = shit, in my experience. Not even ket can save that stuff. Just found it confusing but not in the nice ketafried way - more like the mephobotomy X 10 with all the fun sucked from the ket and... gone away leaving no trace of Goodness at all.

Only meph combo that really is nice is with 2C-I. That actually is better than the sum of its parts.

FWIW Shambles, I thought your post in OD was utterly reasonable. This post isn't. This post represents some of what I see as wrong with BL's apparent negativity against meph - which should be a negativity against the causes of meph eg prohibition.

Ok, that's your experience. It isn't mine (nor many others). Presenting meph as "shit useless" flies in the face of manys experience and can only stop them listening.

the set and setting is crucial to a good experience

Ever considered your set, re meph, might be a little fucked by having to mod this board?

Or maybe I've been taking non-mephy meph eh? :) Because it ain't my experience. I've had my share of k-holes. I've recently had probably the two deepest most memorable experiences (as in I can recall them and use them) on ketamine I've ever had. And yes, this was in combination with mephedrone.

The only combo I have found that has come close to meph and ket is crystal meth and ket. I don't find that surprising as I can argue for certain similarities between meth and meph.

But the more I read here, the more I feel like an alien. Its like I'm taking different drugs to a lot of people here.

Or maybe I just have a different set and setting.

Fuck it eh? Let's blame the mephedrone for someones dodgy evening of which we have no direct experience.

I'm pretty sure too Felix. :\
 
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meph and ket triggered drug psychosis in me, mephedrone seems to make weird sleep deprivation effects happen to me after only a single night up, not sure why/how this is at all.
 
calm down mate, i said it was a hunch didn't I? :D

for the record i happen to love mephedrone and have never suffered any of the effects people talk about.

edit: i was just reminded that i've actually had meph & ket before, and had a great time. so i retract my hunch and i'll crawl into a hole now.
 
calm down mate

Fuck is the simplest, most expressive word in the english language. I'm pretty sure :) you may have used it yourself.

edit: i was just reminded that i've actually had meph & ket before, and had a great time. so i retract my hunch and i'll crawl into a hole now.

Stay above the parapet. You are the voice of reason oh Admin one. :)

I am the madman.
 
Yes it's me who doesn't like meph, well yes off course I do how could you not it's fucking amazing %)...alas it does not agree with me :| That has nothing to do with EADD board hysteria, it is my body's response and I listen to it.

It was me who reminded felix - ket, meph and a huge multi coloured lit-up jaccuzzzi as I remember =D Worthy of note ;) Thank fuck one of us still has a memory eh 8)
 
anyone help me with this one?

ive done ket twice after we got it from newquay, and the guy we got it off literally called the guy up while we were outside waiting, he cooked it up put it in a bag and there we had 3g's so we pretty much know that it was good ket

but since being back home a few people i no were on it at a drum and bass event and they were dancing etc.

wen i tried it, i coodnt see straight and just wanted to sit down and relax...loved it but couldn't imagine getting up and dancing with loud music and people about. its prob cz the stuff they had was incredibly cut (they were doing lines whereas we were doign bumps and we were way more fucked), but i would love to know what the effects of this cut ket is, espesh wen they were able to rave out on it

do you get entirely different effects? or what? and is it good?

buzz xxx

K isn't cut usually, the thing you have seen there is tolerance.

Someone who has done it for years can sniff up fat lines and you wouldn't know they were on it but people just starting out with it get fucked up of a little bump or two, a fact I have forgotten many a time when giving out lines to strangers at festis and raves etc.

EDIT: just remembered about two weeks ago I let a casual acquaintance have a sniff out of my wrap then had to firemans lift the poor twat back to my house to recover missing the rest of the party then when he came round he spewed red stuff all over my white carpet, the remedy is cocaine as soon as its apparent that they have had too much as long as you get plenty of coke up their nose before they hit the hole it usually saves them.
 
FWIW Shambles, I thought your post in OD was utterly reasonable. This post isn't. This post represents some of what I see as wrong with BL's apparent negativity against meph - which should be a negativity against the causes of meph eg prohibition.

Ok, that's your experience. It isn't mine (nor many others). Presenting meph as "shit useless" flies in the face of manys experience and can only stop them listening.

It is indeed my experience hence the "in my experience" bit ;)

Whatever opinion anybody has of meph, when it's combined with ket even a lot of meph fans find it deeply unpleasant. It's the one meph combo I've seen repeatedly mentioned by many as being horrid, nauseating and confusing - really doesn't seem to agree with a lot of people even if they like both separately. Obviously others enjoy it hence the "IME" bit (again) rather than a statement of pure fact.

Glad you thought the OD post was okay though. I know I can be just a tad vocal in my non-meph fan status but if you'd had to wade through as many mephelated threads and posts from people off their tits on meph droning on about it being the best thing ever, everybody must try it immediately and any safety concerns were completely made up so go ahead and shovel a kilo a day up yer nose, maybe even you might get a bit snappy responding to them for the 1,790,392th time that day. Well... maybe - it's a possibility :D
 
if you'd had to wade through as many mephelated threads and posts from people off their tits on meph droning on about it being the best thing ever, everybody must try it immediately and any safety concerns were completely made up so go ahead and shovel a kilo a day up yer nose, maybe even you might get a bit snappy responding to them for the 1,790,392th time that day. Well... maybe - it's a possibility :D

Definitely mate. :) Don't get me wrong.

Yes it's me who doesn't like meph, well yes off course I do how could you not it's fucking amazing %)..

Not saying Kate is an example of what you mean Shambles, though its obviously an example of someone not finding it shit useless.

However....

....for the record, can I point out my middle ground?

I don't think meph is amazing. I'd much rather have mdma.
I don't think meph is useless. Its definitely loosens sexual inhibitions and sometimes there's an odd moment of clarity in the verbal shit too.

Not amazing. Not useless. Not mdma. I think that's a pretty common opinion outside of EADD. Its mine too.

.alas it does not agree with me :| That has nothing to do with EADD board hysteria, it is my body's response and I listen to it.

Again, when I brought up EADD hysteria I purposefully coupled it with "I am not denying there are some obvious problems with meph". But again, internet debate seems to reside in black and white with no grey. If I suggest there may be some psychological reactions to talks of panic attacks etc I seem to get cast as denying that a vasoconstricting drug might just turn some peoples arms and legs blue temporarily.

I understand your 'sometimes' shortness with the meph brigade Shambles. I get the same thing when people come on here and go "I took this amphetamine like drug and couldn't sleep - it's da devil drug".

Isn't this an interesting social experiment? ;)
 
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