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MDPV Megathread 3 - It don't matter if you're tanned or white! or beige...

How bad's the comedown tend to be with this? I did a fair bit last night (couldn't begin to tell you, silly me) and whilst I didn't sleep and I'd had some to drink too I feel relatively good, just a bit off baseline and I don't have that grimy nasty feeling like I tend to with speed (it's the only stim I can really compare to). Just worried I'll suddenly want to die some time this afternoon and I have things to be doing today.

Kind of.

I've probably asked this before anyway but I can't remember and I can't be arsed searching through various iterations of the thread to find out.
 
I find MDPV to be extremely fiendish. Even with a nice scale it is soooo hard not to over do it. I always use it in small amounts to get a party night going, but if the mdpv IS your buzz, good luck .
 
I feel happier on the 'comedown' for some reason, maybe something to do with receptors in my brain going back to normal?
Going back to the butylone thingy briefly, i was thinking last night and i'm 100% certain it was done on purpose, also to be honest i would be more worried if it was an accident... imagine them accidently giving someone MDPV instead of butylone, customer prepares himself a nice 200mg 'butylone' bomb of MDPV, that can't turn out good.
 
fastandbulbous said:
If you're not feeling dodgy now, it wont happen - some people get no comedown, only feel the lack of sleep


PS No need to freebase - I know of a fellow BLer who just chases the HCl salt off foil & gets impressive results
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Wheee thanks! I know you've said before there's little come down if taken sensibly, but I wasn't exactly sensible last night, although evidently I was enough to get sleep before the booze wore off!
 
fastandbulbous said:
I know of a fellow BLer who just chases the HCl salt off foil & gets impressive results
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Me too, oddly enough. Wonder who that may be...

I must admit I enjoy chasing it although it can be a bit rough initially until you reach that sweet spot - often ushered in with a few benzos - when it's becomes just peachy and peaceful. Of course, chasing stuff does carry certain fond memories of things I can't be doing (often) these days. One of the few junky rituals that still serves a useful function. Plus, I'm bloody good at it and why waste a talent? :D

I doubt it's any good at all for the poor ol' lungs though. Gives a quick, rough and ready indication of quality too - good peevee runs clean as a whistle. Tan ran clean as crack, almost. The shitter the product the more it chars and frazzles. Another clear indication of the drop in quality, I'd say. This off-white stuff is pretty clean and as good as peevee gets at the moment, I'd say.

Snolls: Comedowns seem to vary a lot. I've had ones where I couldn't even post on BL for a good week - felt like my brain was running on treacle. Other times I feel fine after sleeping. Doesn't seem to depend on dose, or even time awake, so much as quality for me. If you've gone all night without and feel okay you shouldn't have any nasty surprises in store :)
 
Ceres said:
Still hoping someone who's used ritalin recreationally can post comparing it with mdpv in terms of how similar they are.
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I've taken a fair amount of both. While they are pretty much opposite ends of the stim strength scale, you can definitely tell they are chemical cousins. Aside from some sort of common feel that's somewhat impossible for me to describe, they both tend to have more peripheral effects than the amphetamine family (sweating comes to mind), a cloudier head than say meth and are morish in a rather similar way for me. Not at the same scale at all of course, but both tend to encourage me to take more even if it won't really increase my high much but neither are punishing for me like coke is where half the reason i'm taking more is that i don't want to feel bad. Ritalin itself I might compare to bad coke, a bit more jittery but without the punishing comedown. You can take all the methylphenidate you want though and you'll never get to the really jacked up spot mdpv can take you fairly quickly.

I think I remember seeing someone here mention mdpv was synthed after phikal & tikal were released. It was actually patented in the 60s iirc.

And to the guy that was talking about MDxx drugs like MDPV was one, don't let the name fool ya. People use MDxx to mean things like MDMA, MDA, MDEA etc which all are similar both chemically and in experience. MDPV has nothing at all to do with them, it just shares a shortened version that happens to start with MD. In fact, in the stimulant family you can't really get farther apart. If MDA could be described like a kiss with your first crush, MDPV is more like trading complex financial derivatives with the devil. YMMV.
 
^ I find it brilliant for getting really stuck in to anything of a problem solving nature without getting distracted easily, but there's a pretty fine line between that and ending up finding myself awake at 6am trying to pursue so many different tangents simultaneously that my mind just seizes up.

It's way too easy for me to overdo it - some kind of extended release capsule or otherwise difficult to misuse formulation would be interesting.
I imagine dosing it once in the morning around the 10-15mg mark and again in the early afternoon would be perfect for a productive day, but still haven't quite got round to drawing a line under having fun with the stuff and embarking on a planned, sensible regime like that, which was my original intention.
 
Shambles said:
Snolls: Comedowns seem to vary a lot. I've had ones where I couldn't even post on BL for a good week - felt like my brain was running on treacle. Other times I feel fine after sleeping. Doesn't seem to depend on dose, or even time awake, so much as quality for me. If you've gone all night without and feel okay you shouldn't have any nasty surprises in store :)
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Ah, sounds a lot like my hangovers :D Sometimes they're there after three cans, sometimes they're absent after ten. Luck of the draw!

I like this stuff though, little urge to redose now (last night was a different story), no nasty mucky feeling and despite having slept maybe two hours I feel energetic and able to go about my daily business. Probably going to get my head down in an hour or so though.
 
Ceres said:
^ I find it brilliant for getting really stuck in to anything of a problem solving nature without getting distracted easily, but there's a pretty fine line between that and ending up finding myself awake at 6am trying to pursue so many different tangents simultaneously that my mind just seizes up.
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No arguments there, going down the rabbit hole fixated on a puzzle is perhaps the defining trait for me and mdpv. The cloudiness I described was only meant in comparison to amphetamines, specifically methamp. It's not that it's a cloudy high really (at least until you've been overdoing it for some time) but it's distinctly not as razor sharp clear, at least for me. I was really struggling for terminology to describe the similarities that are definitely there, I would still stand by that as a trait.

Re-upping is exactly why i always discourage people when they ask about it as a study aid. I'm sure it could do fairly well if one had iron will and perfect dosing, but I'd say that's rare with mdpv approaching mythology. It's way, way too easy to go too far to the point your thought process is a mess of tangents, even if you don't quite realize it at the time.
 
Sounds like a plan, Snollz :)

Out of interest, did you snort, bomb or other it? And in what kinda (approximate as you like) dose(s)? Just curious and also impressed with you self-control so looking for tips :D

Ceres: I could see it being excellent for study, creativity and the like... if you could get the dose right and not get silly about it. I find the better the quality, the more clarity and less fiendish it gets. Possibly. I've used less in the last 24 hours than I normally would (less than 100mg, for sure - probably a good bit less) and have been fairly lucid and fiendless. Even managing to post fairly coherently. And without too much excess verbosity and drivel.

The off-white batch is the most clear-headed stuff around at the moment, for sure. Lacks the energy and euphoria (and insane wordplay addiction) of the tan but so much better than that horrid mongy shit that was around a while back :)
 
morphene said:
Re-upping is exactly why i always discourage people when they ask about it as a study aid. I'm sure it could do fairly well if one had iron will and perfect dosing, but I'd say that's rare with mdpv approaching mythology. It's way, way too easy to go too far to the point your thought process is a mess of tangents, even if you don't quite realize it at the time.
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I actually experienced this myself trying to get an English essay finished the night before it was due in, i was on the computer typing from 10pm till 6am in the morning but i just kept writing a sentence then deleting and re-wording it to try and make it sound better i was never happy with what i wrote though, i found it easy to stray away from the actual topic i was writing about without realizing aswell lol.
Ended up with around 3-4 paragraphs of complete shit heh
 
morphene said:
I've taken a fair amount of both. While they are pretty much opposite ends of the stim strength scale, you can definitely tell they are chemical cousins. Aside from some sort of common feel that's somewhat impossible for me to describe, they both tend to have more peripheral effects than the amphetamine family (sweating comes to mind), a cloudier head than say meth and are morish in a rather similar way for me. Not at the same scale at all of course, but both tend to encourage me to take more even if it won't really increase my high much but neither are punishing for me like coke is where half the reason i'm taking more is that i don't want to feel bad. Ritalin itself I might compare to bad coke, a bit more jittery but without the punishing comedown. You can take all the methylphenidate you want though and you'll never get to the really jacked up spot mdpv can take you fairly quickly.

I think I remember seeing someone here mention mdpv was synthed after phikal & tikal were released. It was actually patented in the 60s iirc.
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Thanks for posting this, not getting into a OTT tweaked out state is a plus for me.. I'll see how I get on with it when I'm back to a normal mdpv-free state (probably when I run out of it :p) I assume combining the two is a bad idea anyway.

Funnily enough I was actually reading the original patent earlier, it answers a lot of questions I've had for a while, and also left me wondering more than ever what the difference between the "tan" mdpv and the other more commonly available type might be.....
 
I munched it! I've never been one for doing stuff like this orally but the doses aren't really big enough for a drunk person to snort in any meaningful fashion so down the throat it went! Worked well, hit faster than I expected, and I would estimate I did maybe 5-10mg, give or take a few. Given that I was still fairly wired and energetic at 7am this morning having taken it at about 5pm last night I'd say it was leaning more towards the 'give' end of the scale :D

It did give me a weird kind of anxiety, a purely physical feeling. I do have tachycardia and stims have never done much to my heart rate, think I was at around 110-115 BPM this morning which is usual for me on even non-fucked up days but I really really needed to move, and that didn't go away til I'd been out and got home at 10ish.

Edit: There WAS a re-dose at around 7pm but I'd wager that was closer to a couple of mg because I didn't have much left at all when I started.
 
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Ero90 said:
i was on the computer typing from 10pm till 6am in the morning but i just kept writing a sentence then deleting and re-wording it to try and make it sound better i was never happy with what i wrote though
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This is so spot on, I've done that exact damn thing over hours and hours - minus the lit paper. Far from proud moments to say the least.
 
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morphene said:
No arguments there, going down the rabbit hole fixated on a puzzle is perhaps the defining trait for me and mdpv.
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Sorry that post was in reply to theotherside26, I just took bloody ages to type it, but yeah that's exactly it, like happily exploring a forest for hours until suddenly realising it's getting dark and you're completely lost.

I'm pretty bad at going to sleep every night when I have it, even if I'm exhausted and the stimulation is gone, there's still something persuading me that I can keep going. The feeling actually reminds me a lot of when I was a computer obsessed teenager, who viewed the need to sleep as an irritating handicap eating into valuable learning time.
 
Maybe it's just me but the PV i get from UK RC vendors makes me completely unable to sleep when i'm on it, where as the one batch i ordered from an Asian/Chinese vendor allowed me to sleep perfectly fine and the high i got from it was still good, i actually prefer the Asian PV because of this and the fact that it gave me no physical anxiety at all like i get from the UK PV. But being an impatient nobber i like my order to come within 1-2 days :)
 
^ I found that most of the stuff direct from Asia was properly rip ya head off strong. I rather like that sometimes though :D

Anyone who has the ability to check the various versions of my posts can see for themselves quite how much re-jigging goes on. I'm bad for it anyway but my golly it can get ridiculous on peevee - some of my oldskool "complicated" (or just plane insane) posts took literally hours. But I love me words and peevee is great for getting obsessive about stuff so marriage made in heaven. That Spade post that seemed to go down well took virtually a whole night but was well worth it :D

Snollz: I always assumed oral would be shit. But it really isn't. I'm trying to mix it up a lil between chasing (and whacking great crack pipe loads if I'm going for it a bit more :|) cos the gak involved does kinda concern me. Too much smoking of too many things for too many years. Starting to feel it a bit these days so need to find other options. Oral is nice and smooth, longer-lasting and much less prone to vicious crashes. Also great to land (slightly) more gently from a smoking megabinge :)
 
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