Methamphetamine - New Experience - Chase that dragon! I got him!

[Captain.Heroin]

I WAS UP ABOVE IT 8(%)

Yesterday, if you were to have asked me "have I tried meth?" I would say "yes but only once, orally, in an E pill." Now I've had the REAL THING!!! :D%)

I used to be so big and strong, I used to know my right from wrong
I used to never be afraid I USED TO BE SOMEBODY...

Wow, I understand why so many of you are helplessly addicted to meth now! I am so sorry if you are struggling with addiction - I am not making fun of you. I had a nearly year-long run-in with heroin and my life was not 100% better because of it. However I took the good and left the bad, and got on Suboxone.

I've been clean from heroin for OVER a whole year, so considering I am doing so well and have a low opiate tolerance now, I decided to try a new highly addictive drug - dextro-methamphetamine hcl! aka dextro-meth, d-methamp, d-meth, DA METH!!! Sorry if this doesn't read like most of my TR's (I've only written one TR on IMing 2c-E - this even has similarities with that.)

Warning: all drugs can be addictive, even things that aren't drugs can be addictive too. Don't flame me for using meth, tobacco is the most addictive drug of all and FUCK TOBACCO AND ALCOHOL. They aren't "real" drugs, they're just toxins that people use thinking they're drugs. Meth can be especially addictive. If you have an addictive personality or you have undergone abuse, trama, chronic anxiety or depression, any serious mental disorders, you might want to avoid using this drug and a lot of the other ones too. This isn't to say this isn't a drug for you, just proceed with caution!!! Once you're addicted it's hard to go back to being normal. Yes I have recovered from heroin addiction, but it seems to me that only about 25% of people recover from any hard core drug addiction anyways (this number might be higher or lower depending on the drug, the person, the circumstances, and poly drug abuse). Don't IV drugs without trying another ROA first.

Let me get started. I'll leave out the useless details. Once I had the stuff and tried some. I started talking quicker, fluently, a tad louder, and I was excited/happy in a mild/moderate way. I got home, and tried some IV. It sure was a nice hit.

The high is like regular d,l-amp except it lacks the shittiness from the levo-amphetamine that Adderall typically gives me. It's amazing. It's great for performance, talking, doing anything really. The only down sides (to me) are a faster heart beat (I rarely like/use stimulants for this reason, and the BP flux) and lightheaded-ness (which can originate from many drugs).

I feel like combining a psychedelic with this.

I find myself wanting more meth before I should but this doesn't bother me. It lacks the "fiendish" quality crack has (at least is a lower degree of the fiendish quality if that makes sense). It lasts a lot longer than crack obviously. Crack may last a minute or two (fuck that bullshit!!!) but this lasts...well...I'm still on it haha.

Voices in my music seem to be coming to life. I seem to be coming to life. I feel like I can keep stretching my eyes wider and wider open and I see more and more. Everything is euphoric and lovely. I can't imagine I've lived 22 years of my life without trying this drug.

The downside to where I live is that all the retards here love to drink booze and smoke cigarettes, they love to blow cocaine and smoke crack, and you can even convince them to try heroin, but you can't get ANYONE to think anything except for lies, propaganda, bullshit, and negativity about meth. Everyone here thinks meth is the devil's drug. Let me tell you - it's not. It can certainly be more addictive (psychologically) that most other drugs. I don't have a psychological pull to it at all, only heroin (no other opiates) gave me such a psychologcial addiction I couldn't pull back from it in time.

The other TR I have long waited to write (and shortly will with a little thanks to this meth!) is IV MDA. I tried IVing 100mg MDA, without another ROA before dosing (I tried snorting a bit of the meth before I slammed it). Absolute best psychedelic experience of my life, and it was just as euphoric as this is (IV meth). It obviously didn't last as long as meth though, however I am glad (I was 110% blind to reality and could only see visuals/another reality) since if it had lasted much longer I might have found it too overwhelming.

And there you have it ladies and gentlemen. I obviously could have written a bit more about the meth experience but it's a somewhat subjective feeling. It's a drug which is more "conspicuous" and harder to get a feel for than other uppers/euphorants. It creeps up on you too, except I don't think it "comes in waves" like IV'd OC or Dilaudid (oxycodone and hydromorphone respectively), it's a very full on effect/feeling.

Stimulants are very straightforward in this way. The only other time I have felt this good/positive/stimulated in my whole life is the first time I tried Adderall (I took 30mg XR - I was 15 years old and oh so sensitive to uppers, it was just like this minus the instant onset - taking 30mg XR adderall for the first time lasted longer than 12-18 hours for me so I expect this exp. to be much like the first time I took Adderall), and the time when I IV'd 100mg MDA (To be written in the near/upcoming future.)

Feel free to post questions, opinions, experiences, etc. :D

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[Jabberwocky]

yep, sounds like some good tweak brother i see words, but not much on the actual experience heh

how much had you smoked before you injected? and how much did you inject?

you would think smoking some before booting would diminish the rush quite a bit but its rather the opposite ime. did you feel you missed out on much from smoking the bit before?

smoking gives me more of a light headed high, no body load at all. whereas IVing is a full on body buzz from tip to toes all over inside and out, everything feels alive on your body, hairs standing on edge, etc

just be responsible with your intake

 

[johanneschimpo]

Wow, cool elitist "trip report."

 

[the_ketaman]

Nice, thanks for sharing. While I agree ice isnt as destructive as heroin or opiates(at least for me, a recreational user of methamp) the opes ruined me and im now on methadone but I love my shot or few of base/ice every few months, in fact im getting half a gram of some nice gear tonight that ill split into 2 shots.

I wouldnt mix meth with psychedelics, really I think that combo has the potential to do a lot of psychological damage. Obviously you havent seen the dark side of meth yet which is pretty fucking dark, once you get on the wrong side of miss meth then your fucked for that night/day, you will be so paranoid/anxious/whatever and being in that state on psych's would be bad, I reckon id just snap and prolly end up killing myself or someone else.

Take it easy, I agree meth isnt as bad as most think, I could never sustain an every day habit and the thought of it makes me feel sick, its just too much. Oxy on the other hand as well as xanax I guess I could take every day and it would never feel like too much, there was never enough. the good thing with meth is theres no physical dependence, not that ive ever used often enough at one time to form dependence but yeah, I cant imagine what it'd feel like to get physically dependent on meth, that would truely be hell.

Glad to hear your experience was fun though and you feel you can control it, just dont fool yourself. I hope you continue to safely enjoy your meth.

 

[nintey]

meth sucks just as bad if not worse as other drugs, and it is far more physicaly detremental than opiates which are benign to the body. I know we have all seen pictures of meth mouth and other people that were long term users. Meth blows- and other drugs are not great for you either. and cigarettes and alcohol are drugs also but im done. ggood bye

 

[Lupus]

Think about switching ROAs man...intranasal/oral might be boring but your brain is worth it right?

 

[DOB]

Fuck meth

( I tried it too,but dont try it yourself,the risk is too high and comedown is worse than hell )

 

[Captain.Heroin]

meth sucks just as bad if not worse as other drugs, and it is far more physicaly detremental than opiates which are benign to the body. I know we have all seen pictures of meth mouth and other people that were long term users. Meth blows- and other drugs are not great for you either. and cigarettes and alcohol are drugs also but im done. ggood bye

Yes, however not everyone who uses meth (even chronic meth smokers) get meth mouth. "Meth mouth" is a term which applies to people who use meth constantly and never brush their teeth, eat a lot of junk food, drink a lot of sugared/caffeinated beverages, and that's what causes "meth mouth".

The drug that DIRECTLY makes your teeth gross is Crack, not meth.

Thanks for the ignorance and propaganda that's been injected into your beliefs, but that's not why I started this thread. In fact that's not why Blue Light is here at all.

 

[Captain.Heroin]

Think about switching ROAs man...intranasal/oral might be boring but your brain is worth it right?

Any ROA is going to effect the brain the same. Using a needle to pierce a vein doesn't hurt the brain, it just temporarily punctures through the vein and in time the vein will heal.

My brain is definitely worth it and still here. I didn't buy an oz of meth and go on a month binge, I used it for one day.

A lot of you have misconceptions about drug use and about addiction. Typically you don't get addicted to drugs the first time you try them. It takes repeated exposure and administration for tolerance, and then a psychologcial and physical dependence sets in.

If you fear using meth once will fuck up your teeth and get you horribly addicted, you're extremely ignorant. Using Adderall once didn't fuck up anyone's teeth nor got anyone horribly addicted (who wouldn't have gotten addicted to a placebo anyways...)

Meth is a better, more clean amphetamine than d-amp or d,l-amp. The amount of d-meth I consumed, I probably had a fraction of the comedown I would have had if I took an equi-potent dose of d,l-amp. In fact if I took so much d,l-amp I would have the worst comedown ever, and I'm sure I'd still be experiencing it now.

Instead, because I used meth (and not adderal/vyvanse/dexedrine/ritalin/crap) I am feeling a great afterglow and not a hangover/comedown now.

If you still think meth is some horrible monster out to get you, enjoy your shitty ADD meds.

Fuck meth

( I tried it too,but dont try it yourself,the risk is too high and comedown is worse than hell )

I disagree, the comedown is really easy.

If you have tried levo-methamphetamine, then yes I'm sure the comedown sucked royally. I didn't try l-meth, nor racemic methamphetamine. I had dextro-methamphetamine. I didn't have any sort of comedown. I believe that's mostly the reason why.

When you hear people about using meth once and having a horrible, horrible come down, you can be assured they got levo-methamphetamine (or did way, way, way, way too much meth).

 

[nintey]

"Yes, however not everyone who uses meth (even chronic meth smokers) get meth mouth. "Meth mouth" is a term which applies to people who use meth constantly and never brush their teeth, eat a lot of junk food, drink a lot of sugared/caffeinated beverages, and that's what causes "meth mouth".

The drug that DIRECTLY makes your teeth gross is Crack, not meth.

Thanks for the ignorance and propaganda that's been injected into your beliefs, but that's not why I started this thread. In fact that's not why Blue Light is here at all."



Meth mouth is not from bad hygiene or diet but from the fact that the meth dries out your mouth and saliva and the grinding of your teeth togheher, and your saliva is what protects your mouth from bacteria and other things that are harmful your your teeth and mouth.This along with bad hygiene. Lets try and and get educated about the things that we are taliking about before we tell people they are trying to spread propaganda. Bottom line meth is not good for you under any situation. And who even eat junk food or anything while there tweekin, your not hungry. just not makin sence

 

[rollingrainbow]

when you first took the adderall did you chew the beads? or just swallow whole?

 

[DOB]

Any ROA is going to effect the brain the same. Using a needle to pierce a vein doesn't hurt the brain, it just temporarily punctures through the vein and in time the vein will heal.

My brain is definitely worth it and still here. I didn't buy an oz of meth and go on a month binge, I used it for one day.

A lot of you have misconceptions about drug use and about addiction. Typically you don't get addicted to drugs the first time you try them. It takes repeated exposure and administration for tolerance, and then a psychologcial and physical dependence sets in.

If you fear using meth once will fuck up your teeth and get you horribly addicted, you're extremely ignorant. Using Adderall once didn't fuck up anyone's teeth nor got anyone horribly addicted (who wouldn't have gotten addicted to a placebo anyways...)

Meth is a better, more clean amphetamine than d-amp or d,l-amp. The amount of d-meth I consumed, I probably had a fraction of the comedown I would have had if I took an equi-potent dose of d,l-amp. In fact if I took so much d,l-amp I would have the worst comedown ever, and I'm sure I'd still be experiencing it now.

Instead, because I used meth (and not adderal/vyvanse/dexedrine/ritalin/crap) I am feeling a great afterglow and not a hangover/comedown now.

If you still think meth is some horrible monster out to get you, enjoy your shitty ADD meds.



I disagree, the comedown is really easy.

If you have tried levo-methamphetamine, then yes I'm sure the comedown sucked royally. I didn't try l-meth, nor racemic methamphetamine. I had dextro-methamphetamine. I didn't have any sort of comedown. I believe that's mostly the reason why.

When you hear people about using meth once and having a horrible, horrible come down, you can be assured they got levo-methamphetamine (or did way, way, way, way too much meth).

no,it was street meth... very pure.Its great that you had good time but if you had problem with heroin,shooting meth isnt best idea,hope you wont do it long time,stay safe.

 

[ebola?]

. . .DA METH!!! Sorry if this doesn't read like most of my TR's

This reads like you wrote it while still high (hint: that's usually not good).

ebola

 

[w01fg4ng]

Don't flame me for using meth, tobacco is the most addictive drug of all and FUCK TOBACCO AND ALCOHOL. They aren't "real" drugs, they're just toxins that people use thinking they're drugs.

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The downside to where I live is that all the retards here love to drink booze and smoke cigarettes, they love to blow cocaine and smoke crack, and you can even convince them to try heroin, but you can't get ANYONE to think anything except for lies, propaganda, bullshit, and negativity about meth.

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The other TR I have long waited to write (and shortly will with a little thanks to this meth!) is IV MDA. I tried IVing 100mg MDA, without another ROA before dosing (I tried snorting a bit of the meth before I slammed it). Absolute best psychedelic experience of my life, and it was just as euphoric as this is (IV meth).

A good trip report will not be watered down with information on drugs that were not included in the TRIP.

The drug that DIRECTLY makes your teeth gross is Crack, not meth.

Thanks for the ignorance and propaganda that's been injected into your beliefs, but that's not why I started this thread. In fact that's not why Blue Light is here at all.

The fact that you are defending METH with a CRACK argument tells me that you have put yourself in a compromising situation.

I really hope you have what it takes to get yourself out of this situation. Many people on this forum want to know you are alive and well, including myself.

 

[Candy_Raver]

How would you describe the rush from the initial IV injection?

Did you use any downers to help with the comedown? or it was so non-existant that it was not needed?

You hit the nail when you said its "cleaner" than the ritalin and mixed amphetamine salts. I felt that it was so much cleaner as far as the high goes. As far as euphoria to crash ratio with d/l-amphetamine compared to methamphetamine, the methamphetamine is superior.

I also wanna ask is there a urge to want to repeat this experience strongly? After I tried meth for the first time via IV injection a little less than two weeks ago I have a strong urge to want to repeat the experiences, and couldn't stop thinking about it everyday. Only think stopping me is my tweeker friend is in rehab for two months, and no contact. I'm not wiling to go out and find one either.

-PLUR

 

[Captain.Heroin]

Meth mouth is not from bad hygiene or diet but from the fact that the meth dries out your mouth and saliva and the grinding of your teeth togheher, and your saliva is what protects your mouth from bacteria and other things that are harmful your your teeth and mouth.This along with bad hygiene. Lets try and and get educated about the things that we are taliking about before we tell people they are trying to spread propaganda. Bottom line meth is not good for you under any situation. And who even eat junk food or anything while there tweekin, your not hungry. just not makin sence

Bruxism is obviously another reason why "meth mouth" happens. But really, any upper can cause bruxism. I definitely experienced it on meth for sure, which is why I'm not going to become a meth addict. That would seem quite difficult IMO, I don't think I even want to use it again for a while. I would probably use meth as often as something as I use MDMA (which is like...once in a blue moon. I have only used MDMA less than 10 times in my life thus far), and even then I am still not a stimulants person.

Meth sure does dry your mouth out, which is why you should stay hydrated when you smoke meth (drinking water) and chew on gum if you experience bruxism.

What you have described can happen to people due to different uppers, not just meth. Hence "meth mouth" is not directly caused by meth, but by people not taking precautions and taking care of themselves, and not being responsible with powerful stimulants.

Finally, there's even prescription methamphetamine (desoxyn), so I can't see how you can say "meth is not good for you under any situation". It's used clinically for a lot of different things, for example in extreme cases where patients need to lose weight otherwise they face grave consequences due to extreme obesity. Desoxyn is also a great treatment for ADD/ADHD, or narcolepsy.

There's nothing wrong with recreational drug use. Saying "meth is not good..under any situation" is just like saying "heroin is not good under any situation" - I'm going to have to disagree with your blanketed statement.

Sense is spelled with two S's by the way.

when you first took the adderall did you chew the beads? or just swallow whole?

Swallowed whole.

no,it was street meth... very pure.Its great that you had good time but if you had problem with heroin,shooting meth isnt best idea,hope you wont do it long time,stay safe.

Well then maybe you did too much, because I get a come down every time I do more than < 10mg Adderall, but I did a lot of meth in one night and didn't come down at all. In fact, I slept a lot earlier than I expected.

I had a problem with heroin, yes, but not shooting heroin. I only tried IVing heroin when I was beginning to get over using heroin habitually (I was already on Suboxone, and not using heroin every day when I first tried IVing heroin). Heroin was most addictive to me snorted, mostly for the 8 hour long duration, and the much longer peak vs smoked or IV. Definitely IV has the best rush, but for me, snorting was giving me the same pleasurable rush but it was longer than an IV rush, much longer.

I do not have an addictive personality at all, I have tried a lot of drugs (tobacco*, alcohol*, crack*, cocaine, heroin, dilaudid, hydrocodone, oxycodone, buprenorphine, meth, MDMA, MDA, d,l-amp, benzos**, ketamine***, LSD, mushrooms, salvia, a few other milder psychedelics like amanitas muscaria or calea zacatechichi) and I found none of these addictive like heroin was for me. Not even remotely similar in addictiveness.

* = GROSS - I am not a user of it at all and I refuse to have it around me. Others can drink or smoke cigs but I don't want tobacco smoke in my face. Drinking around me is OK but if you're drunk I wouldn't really want you around. Only very, very, very few people are cooler drunk than sober (I have more fingers than friends who are cooler drunk than they are sober).

** = midazolam, flurazepam, triazolam, alprazolam, lorazepam, diazepam, clonazepam. I like all of these (except for clonazepam - I hate it, I get PR's from it) every now and then but I don't take them often at all.

*** = snorted, IV, IM. I prefer IM most of the time, sometimes if I've had a few IM trips I'll IV some to bring an IM trip back to life.

This reads like you wrote it while still high (hint: that's usually not good).

ebola

I feared if I didn't get it out while I was still peaking I would lose it. I think I was right too, because I would've forgotten at least some of the good descriptive ways I was thinking about the experience.

The fact that you are defending METH with a CRACK argument tells me that you have put yourself in a compromising situation.

I really hope you have what it takes to get yourself out of this situation. Many people on this forum want to know you are alive and well, including myself.

I'm not defending meth. It's a worse drug of abuse than heroin is for sure.

I never really needed to get myself "out of a situation" to be honest with you. I tried meth in one day, did it a few times (no more than 3 or 4 times in that one night to be honest), and I didn't like it enough to want to repeat the experience again for a long, long time.

I have also only used crack once, while I was on heroin (I found it in the bag I think they accidentally mixed up a little of their products when they were bagging it) and I absolutely hated it, crack is a lot like tobacco to me - the experience disgusts me.

How would you describe the rush from the initial IV injection?

I didn't really think it was anything to write home about...I say this mostly because I had already smoked some and the amount I injected was enough to feel the hit but it wasn't "too much".

If I had to rate IV rushes (for my own personal preference)...

IV MDA > IV Heroin > IV ketamine > IV buprenorphine > IV meth > IV cocaine

Keep in mind I don't like stimulants as euphorants, though I did enjoy meth as a euphorant (whereas most other stimulants don't interest me at all - I don't even really like using cocaine anymore). If I were a person who liked stimulants, I would probably like meth more than everything but IV MDA. But I'm not, so that's why I put it where I did.

Did you use any downers to help with the comedown? or it was so non-existant that it was not needed?

I had to take downers to help with the peak. I was physically uncomfortable from the increased BP/heart rate. I took 2mg lorazepam in 0.5mg increments as needed through the peak. I didn't need help w/ the comedown, I just took a nap and I woke up feeling an afterglow.

You hit the nail when you said its "cleaner" than the ritalin and mixed amphetamine salts. I felt that it was so much cleaner as far as the high goes. As far as euphoria to crash ratio with d/l-amphetamine compared to methamphetamine, the methamphetamine is superior.

I very much so agree! If I take more than 10mg of adderall, I get a crash. I get horrible crashes from Adderall XR that I refuse to take it (even less than 10mg of XR will give me a horrid crash about 1/2 to 2/3 of the way thru the experience). However I didn't crash from the meth at all.

I also wanna ask is there a urge to want to repeat this experience strongly? After I tried meth for the first time via IV injection a little less than two weeks ago I have a strong urge to want to repeat the experiences, and couldn't stop thinking about it everyday. Only think stopping me is my tweeker friend is in rehab for two months, and no contact. I'm not wiling to go out and find one either.

-PLUR

I don't have an urge to repeat this experience strongly at all, no. I only IV'd it once, and I smoked it before and afterwards.

I read your TR actually, I might have even made a comment. Now that I've also tried meth I understand your TR a lot more!

I'm really glad you don't want to find another source - that's a very responsible way to go about it.

If you're a person who likes stimulants, then meth is probably one of the most addictive drugs for you, personally (whereas I like psychedelics and downers the most, so heroin was the most addictive drug for me, personally). I think this is probably why you have a strong urge to repeat the experience. This is understandable.

 

[Lupus]

Any ROA is going to effect the brain the same. Using a needle to pierce a vein doesn't hurt the brain, it just temporarily punctures through the vein and in time the vein will heal.

There's direct empirical evidence that IV use of methamphetamine is much more neurotoxic than other ROAs. Speed of onset is key to a large part of damage done to DA receptors.

I was just trying to help man and wasnt trying to imply anything.

 

[Captain.Heroin]

There's direct empirical evidence that IV use of methamphetamine is much more neurotoxic than other ROAs. Speed of onset is key to a large part of damage done to DA receptors.

I was just trying to help man and wasnt trying to imply anything.

Interesting, care to share the source?

Repetitive use of cocaine is also neurotoxic, so I can believe what you say about speed of onset effecting the dopamine receptors.

The great part about it is I only did it once, so I doubt I am suffering any ill effects.

 

[morphene]

Hehehe, you tweaked out christmas eve through christmas day for your first time? Too funny. Pro-tip from someone who's done it a fair amount: that was all the crystal talking.

 

[Candy_Raver]

Keep in mind I don't like stimulants as euphorants, though I did enjoy meth as a euphorant (whereas most other stimulants don't interest me at all - I don't even really like using cocaine anymore). If I were a person who liked stimulants, I would probably like meth more than everything but IV MDA. But I'm not, so that's why I put it where I did.

I don't have an urge to repeat this experience strongly at all, no. I only IV'd it once, and I smoked it before and afterwards.

I read your TR actually, I might have even made a comment. Now that I've also tried meth I understand your TR a lot more!

I'm really glad you don't want to find another source - that's a very responsible way to go about it.

If you're a person who likes stimulants, then meth is probably one of the most addictive drugs for you, personally (whereas I like psychedelics and downers the most, so heroin was the most addictive drug for me, personally). I think this is probably why you have a strong urge to repeat the experience. This is understandable.

I understand the fact that you don't have a urge to repeat the experience, this could be a good thing. I forgot to ask if after you smoked and the effects start to ware off, was an urge to redose? I get a strong urge to redose, but I usually fight it, I don't keep any around, and destory all sources of residue as a anti-redose, and anti-binge precaution. My friend redose and binge for weeks, inducing psychosis on themselve, and same with my other friends who are ex-tweekers in the past and no longer use.

I've also understand your trip report alot as well, I was quite surprised to see the report, and admired it. I'm happy you were able to understand part of my TR, how potentially moreish meth is to certain people, and see how some people like meth way too much, the addiction potential.

I will definatly find a way to fight the urge to repeat the experience, my fingers are crossed and hopefully my friend who's in rehab for meth dosn't relapse again, as I have no other source.

Nice contrast between a "upper" person, and "downer" person as far as drug preference go. I consider myself a mix of both although more towards uppers. I rarely run into uppers, with the exception of MDMA, which kept me away from using them too much. I do run into downers alot, and there's easy access. I like disassociatives, and hallucinogens as well, but you hit the nail on drug preference, whats more addictive, and personality.

PLUR